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Chieftain 11-11-2022 11:18 PM

The moron who does the podcast Locked on Jaguars actually said that the Chiefs weakness is their seconday and he doesn't think our corners are any good. You cannot make this shit up.

KChiefs1 11-11-2022 11:25 PM

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SuperBowl4 11-12-2022 04:42 AM

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Bump 11-12-2022 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16595316)
Toney and Rojo time?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have ruled out WR Mecole Hardman (abdomen) for Sunday&#39;s game against the Jaguars.<br><br>RB Jerick McKinnon (shoulder/knee/hamstring) and is listed as questionable. He was downgraded to limited on Friday.<br><br>Everyone else was a full participant on Friday.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1591163437866168320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

am I bad for thinking I'm excited to hopefully see more Skyy Moore and that new guy from the Giants?

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16595949)
The moron who does the podcast Locked on Jaguars actually said that the Chiefs weakness is their seconday and he doesn't think our corners are any good. You cannot make this shit up.

Well I could understand people not having much respect for Williams or Watson. Getting McDuffie back changes things.

Chris Meck 11-12-2022 08:54 AM

I'm gonna say Chiefs, 27-23.

We'll have trouble between the 20's but keep them out of the endzone on more often than not.

Chiefs will struggle to run the ball and Wylie will blow goats, but Mahomes.

TripleThreat 11-12-2022 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16584645)
Your existence is a disaster

Sweetie this is the behavior the therapist talked about.

Mosbonian 11-12-2022 09:33 AM

Am I the only person who thinks this isn't going to be as close as people think?

I (unfortunately)get the Jags every week here and I think people give them too much credit for some things and too little for others.

Josh Allen isn't Von Miller....Travon Walker can look good one play and completely lost the next...their secondary is decent but Mahomes picks apart even the best secondaries... while our running game is atrocious I think we can get some yards.

Their receiving corps are average at best.......Kirk is their best receiver but he would be #4 on our depth chart in KC.....Cam Robinson can tend to get a lot of false starts in loud stadiums, I would bet that our crowd has him give us 2-3 in the game....their TE's are decent but not near as good as Kelce or ever Gray/Fortson....Trevor is as erratic as Derek Carr or Justin Herbert....and sometimes when he runs he can forget to get down in a slide....

I would watch out for Smoot on defense....he seems to be the guy who is having the better year.

On Offense.....if we let Etienne get confidence right away he will run all over us. Gay or Bolton need to meet him head on and let him get gun shy.... and watch out for Trevor running, again we need the LB's to spy on him

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16596160)
Am I the only person who thinks this isn't going to be as close as people think?

I (unfortunately)get the Jags every week here and I think people give them too much credit for some things and too little for others.

Josh Allen isn't Von Miller....Travon Walker can look good one play and completely lost the next...their secondary is decent but Mahomes picks apart even the best secondaries... while our running game is atrocious I think we can get some yards.

Their receiving corps are average at best.......Kirk is their best receiver but he would be #4 on our depth chart in KC.....Cam Robinson can tend to get a lot of false starts in loud stadiums, I would bet that our crowd has him give us 2-3 in the game....their TE's are decent but not near as good as Kelce or ever Gray/Fortson....Trevor is as erratic as Derek Carr or Justin Herbert....and sometimes when he runs he can forget to get down in a slide....

I would watch out for Smoot on defense....he seems to be the guy who is having the better year.

On Offense.....if we let Etienne get confidence right away he will run all over us. Gay or Bolton need to meet him head on and let him get gun shy.... and watch out for Trevor running, again we need the LB's to spy on him

People seem to be scared to predict comfortable wins over weak opponents. As if our predictions have an effect on the outcome.

I think KC matches up pretty well with Jacksonville and will win comfortably if they don't make a lot of mistakes. If it's an off day, sure, it could be a battle. Like any other NFL game.

tredadda 11-12-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16596213)
People seem to be scared to predict comfortable wins over weak opponents. As if our predictions have an effect on the outcome.

I think KC matches up pretty well with Jacksonville and will win comfortably if they don't make a lot of mistakes. If it's an off day, sure, it could be a battle. Like any other NFL game.

Although people predicting blowouts here has nothing to do with the outcome the reality is that teams KC should blow out they don’t. Not sure why, but it’s maddening and a reason why KC drops a head scratcher or two every year.

O.city 11-12-2022 10:35 AM

There just aren’t many blowouts in the nfl

Bowser 11-12-2022 10:36 AM

ETN is going to be a problem, moreso with him out of the backfield on the routes. Wouldn't be shocked if he got 150+ combined yards and a couple of scores, and I say that specifically because we shut Derrick Henry down in the second half last week. Trevor Lawrence does have ability throwing the ball, more than Willis anyway, and that will free ETN up to chew yards.

tredadda 11-12-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16596221)
ETN is going to be a problem, moreso with him out of the backfield on the routes. Wouldn't be shocked if he got 150+ combined yards and a couple of scores, and I say that specifically because we shut Derrick Henry down in the second half last week. Trevor Lawrence does have ability throwing the ball, more than Willis anyway, and that will free ETN up to chew yards.

Exactly which is why I said shutting down Etienne is not the same as shutting down Henry as Lawrence is a far better QB right now than Willis.

Hammock Parties 11-12-2022 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16596221)
ETN is going to be a problem, moreso with him out of the backfield on the routes. Wouldn't be shocked if he got 150+ combined yards and a couple of scores, and I say that specifically because we shut Derrick Henry down in the second half last week. Trevor Lawrence does have ability throwing the ball, more than Willis anyway, and that will free ETN up to chew yards.

got a weird feeling we see a shootout

mlyonsd 11-12-2022 10:46 AM

It wouldn't be gameday if at some point part of CP doesn't melt down and call for everyone to be fired.

Bowser 11-12-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16596224)
got a weird feeling we see a shootout

This has a very 35-31 feeling to it

Hammock Parties 11-12-2022 11:25 AM

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Mosbonian 11-12-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16596221)
ETN is going to be a problem, moreso with him out of the backfield on the routes. Wouldn't be shocked if he got 150+ combined yards and a couple of scores, and I say that specifically because we shut Derrick Henry down in the second half last week. Trevor Lawrence does have ability throwing the ball, more than Willis anyway, and that will free ETN up to chew yards.

But Lawrence has been erratic at times with his throws all season. He can throw a laser one minute....and then a Carr-like miscue the next.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2022 11:36 AM

Depends on the point spread and how much money on who to deoend how the game is steeered

Chris Meck 11-12-2022 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16596213)
People seem to be scared to predict comfortable wins over weak opponents. As if our predictions have an effect on the outcome.

I think KC matches up pretty well with Jacksonville and will win comfortably if they don't make a lot of mistakes. If it's an off day, sure, it could be a battle. Like any other NFL game.

Jax really isn't as bad as their record, though. They've played everyone close, just haven't been able to put them away.

There's a lot of talent there, and they're finally getting good coaching for the first time at the NFL level.

They're not a gimme on anybody's schedule.

I expect a win, but it will be closer than we'd like-because that's how Jax plays everyone.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2022 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16596322)
Jax really isn't as bad as their record, though. They've played everyone close, just haven't been able to put them away.

There's a lot of talent there, and they're finally getting good coaching for the first time at the NFL level.

They're not a gimme on anybody's schedule.

I expect a win, but it will be closer than we'd like-because that's how Jax plays everyone.

The Chiefs aren't "everyone ". Most offenses are struggling this year.

scho63 11-12-2022 12:41 PM

On TV again tomorrow here in AZ. Love it!

crayzkirk 11-12-2022 12:46 PM

I thought the Jaguars would be a bit like the Bengals last year; a lot of young talent on both sides of the ball with decent coaching. I'm not sure which team the Chiefs will get, the one that stomped the Chargers and came back against the Raiders or lost to the Texans.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2022 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16596322)
Jax really isn't as bad as their record, though. They've played everyone close, just haven't been able to put them away.

There's a lot of talent there, and they're finally getting good coaching for the first time at the NFL level.

They're not a gimme on anybody's schedule.

I expect a win, but it will be closer than we'd like-because that's how Jax plays everyone.

I'm not saying they're terrible or anything, but they're 3-6 vs a pretty weak schedule. They've already lost to four of the worst teams in the league. Every team in the NFL plays close games. I don't think there's a single team this year that gets blown out consistently.

More importantly, I don't think they have a defensive scheme that is likely to give KC a lot of problems. But the Chiefs aren't perfect, and tend to play down to teams at home for some reason. So any given Sunday and all that.

Chiefshrink 11-12-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 16584655)
Chiefs should win but we seem to have an issue where we play awful against bad teams.

If there is one aspect of this team that really bugs me is that they play down to the more obvious lesser competition whether on the road or at home. Just saying.:shrug:

Hopefully they learned their lesson from the Colts game.

Halfcan 11-12-2022 01:25 PM

I can't see the Jags dink and dunk offense coming in and having success at Arrowhead. Our defense will shut them down. Their secondary will get burned all day as well.

Chiefs 37 Jags 9

Dante84 11-12-2022 01:32 PM

Chiefs are bringing up DB Ugo Amadi from the practice squad for the game for ST’s.

Red Dawg 11-12-2022 01:37 PM

Gonna be a Toney jet sweep tommorrow? I think yes!

NJChiefsFan 11-12-2022 02:15 PM

It is pretty interesting that at 3-6 they have like a +22 point differential. I know how it happened and it doesn't mean all that much outside of them having lost many close games. Still kind of crazy though. Can't imagine that has happened too many times in the NFL over the course of 9 games

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2022 02:50 PM

They aren't as awful as psst Jag teams. They're better than teams like Denver, so we just have to execute

FloridaMan88 11-12-2022 02:54 PM

The Chiefs haven’t lost a November game since the Tennessee game in 2019.

Bowser 11-12-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16596614)
The Chiefs haven’t lost a November game since the Tennessee game in 2019.

That was the oddest ending of a Chiefs game I can remember.

Coochie liquor 11-12-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16596616)
That was the oddest ending of a Chiefs game I can remember.

Maybe the refs giving the Fade unlimited shots at scoring until they finally were able to after being escorted down the field by flags.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-12-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16596730)
Maybe the refs giving the Fade unlimited shots at scoring until they finally were able to after being escorted down the field by flags.

When I think game steering....first game that I think of

SuperBowl4 11-12-2022 04:18 PM

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Best22 11-12-2022 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16596603)
They aren't as awful as psst Jag teams. They're better than teams like Denver, so we just have to execute

The Broncos beat the Jags

Coochie liquor 11-12-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16596745)
The Broncos beat the Jags

Well….. EmbaRuss actually used a wristband in this game. That’s why they won.

Megatron96 11-12-2022 07:38 PM

Fyi, Chiefs are 17-1 after the bye since Mahomes became the starter.

staylor26 11-12-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16597020)
Fyi, Chiefs are 17-1 after the bye since Mahomes became the starter.

Umm the Chiefs were coming off a bye last week, not this week lol.

Megatron96 11-12-2022 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16597024)
Umm the Chiefs were coming off a bye last week, not this week lol.

No, I think it's every game after the bye combined. But it's wrong anyway. Just checked and the Chiefs have four losses after the bye since 2018. KC is 20-4 after the bye since 2018.

Trey Wingo must've misquoted the stat:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mhUmL4rLG1w" title="Game Preview with Trey Wingo | Chiefs vs. Jaguars" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

TwistedChief 11-12-2022 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16597035)
No, I think it's every game after the bye combined. But it's wrong anyway. Just checked and the Chiefs have four losses after the bye since 2018. KC is 30-4 after the bye since 2018.

Trey Wingo must've misquoted the stat:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mhUmL4rLG1w" title="Game Preview with Trey Wingo | Chiefs vs. Jaguars" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Are you on drugs? I used to think your posts were sometimes debatable but always thoughtful. Now you’re posting stuff like “Mahomes who was drafted in 2017 is 17-1 after the bye.” What’s going on with you?

Megatron96 11-12-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16597043)
Are you on drugs? I used to think your posts were sometimes debatable but always thoughtful. Now you’re posting stuff like “Mahomes who was drafted in 2017 is 17-1 after the bye.” What’s going on with you?

I assumed Wingo could count. My bad.

TwistedChief 11-12-2022 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16597053)
I assumed Wingo could count. My bad.

Dude, are you able to count?

Megatron96 11-12-2022 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16597056)
Dude, are you able to count?

It depends. It is saturday night. Theres going to be some typos etc.

Megatron96 11-12-2022 08:13 PM

Okay, I had to relisten to what Trey actually said.

So, the stat is "in the last three seasons after the bye, in a game in which Mahomes started, the Chiefs are 17-1."

The loss in 2020 doesn't count because Henne started that week 17 game in 2020. So that's accurate.

He's just basically trying to say that after the bye, if Mahomes starts, the Chiefs are really hard to beat. The only team that has beaten a Mahomes-led Chiefs team after the bye in the last three years has been CIN last season.

that's actually kind of impressive. Not sure why he arbitrarily picks the last three seasons, but whatever.

staylor26 11-12-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16597043)
Are you on drugs? I used to think your posts were sometimes debatable but always thoughtful. Now you’re posting stuff like “Mahomes who was drafted in 2017 is 17-1 after the bye.” What’s going on with you?

LMAO

I didn't even realize the 17-1 part because I was immediately confused about "after the bye" when the bye was 2 weeks ago.

Everything about that made no sense.

Also, I do not mean this in a mean way at all, but I've noticed it too. Something definitely seems off.

NJChiefsFan 11-12-2022 08:49 PM

This discussion happened last week as well. That stat is for all games post-bye week, not just the game following it.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2022 09:02 PM

I have 16-1.

Last year, Mahomes was 5-1 after the bye week.
In 2020, 6-0.
In 2019, 5-0.

Hammock Parties 11-12-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597193)
I have 16-1.

Last year, Mahomes was 5-1 after the bye week.
In 2020, 6-0.
In 2019, 5-0.

in 2022..1-0

Chief3188 11-12-2022 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16597193)
I have 16-1.

Last year, Mahomes was 5-1 after the bye week.
In 2020, 6-0.
In 2019, 5-0.

He was probably including this year too which gives you 17

cdcox 11-12-2022 09:08 PM

I don't envision this game being close at all. Any given Sunday, yada yada.

Stryker 11-12-2022 09:08 PM

Stop ETN and sack the shit out of Lawrence! SIMPLE! Chiefs WIN!

RaidersOftheCellar 11-12-2022 09:16 PM

Oops. I'm high.

That's my excuse.


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