these people are ****ing losers who want to go home and take their ball with them now that the game isn't going their way

every single one of them will be back bitching about elon's winning streak this time next year

I want to meet her










so I can laugh in her face

I highly doubt it, twatter is one of those things that seem too big to fail

Its just going through the inevitable growing pains that come with restructuring, and flushing out all the lazy and entitled 30 and under types who made such a polarizing mess of it in the first place

You don't need any employees or external regulations or internal safety checks to run a 40 billion internet company.

This man will tell you how to do it...


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how is the site even still up with all of this crazy news?

screaming babies make everything seem worse than it actually is

no different than 2016 or COVID

JFC

I'm going to start a social platform called "Argue!"

A new topic will start every day, but previous topics will have a life of two weeks. State your case and move on.

The argument points will start out easy and then progress.

For example:

Day 1: 1+1 = 2
Day 2: The sky is blue
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To more sophisticated issues
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Day 2+n: The series 1+2+3+4+5+... = -1/12

Might be a money maker.

Elon is going to make Twitter ****ing huge. You just have to watch his videos/interviews on it. He wants to turn it into WeChat. If hes able to pull it off he can also steal shit from TikTok with Vine Remake. Then add in a digital wallet.

Pfft

To understand watch his videos. Hes a big believer in MicroTransactions his model could very well save News Media companies.

I believe it.

He's gotta survive the MSM bullying tactics though.

This thread is hilarious

Go on.....

you looking forward to dancing on twitter's grave on facebook and reddit bro?

YOU GOT SOME FIRE ELON SUCKS MEMES?

YOU GONNA FIGHT THE MAN, BRO?

not worth it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m no fan of Elon Musk but I do think it’s hilarious that when challenged to work hard, the folks who run this app resigned en masse. If Twitter survives, it might be better off without them.</p>&mdash; David Marcus (@dlm_bmlawkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/dlm_bmlawkc/status/1593419652805394432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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I guess I miss the point of this humdinger of a lambasting. :hmmm:

bought twitter at 35$ a share

sold at 54$


thanks Elon!

I use to work late nights, weekends etc to get the job done. Now, maybe twice a year. If they did want me working 60 hours a week regularly, I’d go find another job.

On the subject of thread hijack (we were talking about thread hijack, weren't we?).

I've never understand why Google didn't push this.

They have everything that is needed to make it a succes.

They could have added micro payments as an option to YouTube videos.

If you make a high quality 15 minute or one hour video say, you could offer it to viewers for say $0.25 instead of the very tiny amount that the advertiser supported model does.

Google has the browser they could have added micropayments to. They even have the google wallet, although they would of course wanted to do some sort of open/public patent so that the PayPal's of the world would also be on board as another means of payment.

Google has also been somewhat rightly accused of driving primary news sources under with their search engine. But they could have a model where the search engine showed a synopsis, but you would have to make a micropayment to see the full article.

I mean, if I search on something, I'm not going to sign up for a monthly recurring fee on my credit card to read one story, but if I could click on a link and pay $0.10 to read something, sure...

So there would be usual the concerns with security and whatnot. So the browser could be set up so that links that cost money were a different color. If the link was above a certain amount (say $0.50), there would be a pop up requiring you to click okay, above a bigger amount you have to type in a password, after spending too much in 24 hours you have to type in a password to keep spending etc.

Never understand why this isn't a thing.

“Anyone who actually writes software, please report to the 10th floor at 2 p.m. today,” he wrote in a two-paragraph message, which was viewed by The New York Times. “Thanks, Elon.”

We have some mutuals it appears

After XX many years of the grind you’ve earned the right to say nahh I’m gonna pass. Anyone 40 and younger has no excuse brother.

40 I was pulling 70+ hours more weeks than not.

You can stop putting/changing the oil on your car, remove the seat belts and airbags, never replace the tires, etc...

Things will keep running just as before, until they don't...

DCish but gonna try....

Its By design and lets not pretend anyone has any idea what is going on beind the scense. They were bleeding money. A lot of others in here simply don't like it because the platform isn't ran anymore by one side of the political isle. Before musk,Twitter was completely swinging one way and these people had no qualms about it, defended it. Now it's ran by someone who is not abiding by the same biased political viewpoint Twitter was operating by and it's HES SCUM!!!.

I don't give a **** about musk but it is truly hilarious watching the last few days the utterly hypocrisy from the people who said StArT yOuR oWn pLaTfOrM if you don't like it. This includes politicians who now want to open investigation.

FFS i just wish people weren't so brainwashed and could see this stuff.

Has it always been this way? Are people utterly incapable of seeing things for what they are and not only what their political views have to coincide with? I hate the world today.



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For the record I hope musk nukes Twitter and take all other mainstream SM with it

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1. Twitter had financial problems before Elon.

2. The power social media companies have is disturbing, at least to me. Outside of name and shame, boycott, or start your own, not a lot to be done and certainly not a lot to be discussed outside of DC.

3. I don't see that Elon is playing his cards very well, but I suppose we will have to give the rookie-media-owner more than two weeks to make or break...

Agree with all.

Social media is responsible for a lot of the mental health issues we have today there's plenty of documentaries about it. I think or hope one day a study is done and we will realize the impact the cess pools have had on humans and society. Probably already is but no one cares because the narcissims is addicitng. Selfies, filters, likes, constant contact, so much self worth wrapped up in that shit you see now adays. People out there airing thier dirty laundry. People weren't meant to live their lives like that. What does that do to a society when your self worth is wrapped into your social media timeline?





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The mass resignations were inevitable when the nap at home in your pajama pants work plan got yanked... twitter will survive the woke millennial temper tantrum, the adults will step in for now

it sounded like a pretty amazing job to have lol

Still are. Just not at Twitter.

Abso-****ing-lutely

It is rotting our brains and I think those in charge of these media know it, want to fight it but ultimately can’t bring themselves to do it because they can’t stop themselves from wanting to monetize it. It’s one thing to be addicted but even worse to have algorithms that can specifically manipulate you.

Elon has now seen your idea and is working feverously to gain copyright protections.

I will gladly volunteer for naptimes, free high quality food, and a fat paycheck

I am ambivalent toward Elon. He’s been the spark behind some amazing achievements, no doubt. Perhaps he has a plan for Twitter, perhaps he wants it to fail - but those are decisions to be made by someone at a much higher pay grade than me.

The main focus of this thread was more to step back and appreciate how Chiefsplanet, using an interface that is now a relic of the Mid-2000’s internet (people probably used Netscape to first get on here!) is still alive and kicking.

Generally if an org needs their workforce to regularly work that much, there are some deep problems.

I'm not going to pretend to know how much manpower it takes to keep Twitter running but it is hilarious that when you go on Twitter and find people saying that Elon's cutting the fat and there are too many people, which may very well be right, but then also people defending the need to work 60+ hours consistently a week. Just skip right over the logical connection there.

He didn't take it over to fail, come on man!

But oh yes theres never a bad time to heap praise on this place, the more we're all allowed to bitch and complain and carry on like children... the more it entertains and informs

We are truly unique here, may we never change a single thing

I wouldn’t think he would buy it to burn it, but I’ve seen this weird split with folks ardently defending Elon where they’ll say he’s saving Twitter while also saying if he lets it fail that would be a “good thing for humanity” and a savvy business move to claim bankruptcy.

Honestly, all of that stuff is so far above my understanding that hey, maybe Elon is making a smart move if he lets it die, I dunno!

For folks who love Elon I will say this — he’s miles above Zuck and Bezos when it comes to billionaires.

And from the sounds of it, he would have backed out of it if his contract to buy it if it hadn't been so legally tight.

So there is a question of whether he wants to run it as a vanity project or if he wants to maximize his profits (or minimize his loss as the case may be).

And it will be curious to see how his scorched earth approach to Twitter's employees work out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Learn to weld.</p>&mdash; Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) <a href="https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1593592648547328002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And now we’re quoting Ben Shapiro. It’s hilarious how dc is not allowed to leak unless it’s the right wing reeruns

I’ve enjoyed this conversation in the lounge. I hope it can stay.

It’s always a better forum when clay doesn’t speak

you don't believe in freedom of speech

yet my speech is freer than yours :evil:

lol okay bud. Maybe one of them will retweet you and then you can feel that sweet validation that you so desperately crave.

- That's hilariously inaccurate.

- Is "learn to weld" some sort of blatant political opinion in code form or something?

It hasn't been shipped off to DC yet, a rare feat only select guys like you can pull off/doff o the cap

I dunno. Let's investigate:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see these same sentiments reflected over and over and all they do is reveal that the person saying it has never been around the working class in their life (let alone ever worked in what they think is a “real job”)</p>&mdash; Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) <a href="https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1593666684170149890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I am a lineman for the county...


Also this:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I am starting to suspect some of these people actually may not be familiar with either the trades or blue collar workers.</p>&mdash; Deborah Ahrens (@Djuna22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Djuna22/status/1593783445993709568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Just talkin bout welding.


And of course who could forget?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Carpentry, obviously <a href="https://t.co/j0GZoH7wdP">pic.twitter.com/j0GZoH7wdP</a></p>&mdash; Kein Bartlett (@BubbbleBudddy) <a href="https://twitter.com/BubbbleBudddy/status/1593709624754151428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's just cheerleading without any logic inserted.

https://www.teslaoracle.com/wp-conte...Technoking.jpg

I massively overpaid for Twitter, so after firing half of you. I want the rest of you to work 60~70+ hour weeks for the same compensation so I can get my money back.

What do you say?








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We quit.

Yes.

Rest assured anything Ben Shapiro posts is political.

I'm not sure. Him talking about a wet vagina being a medical condition didn't seem very political.

I hardly believe Musk belongs in the same room as Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and Chris Jones.

That’s cute that Ben thinks that former Twitter software developers are going to have to learn a trade so they can earn $17.90 per hour. It’s even cuter that dumb people think he’s on to something.

HOLD THE **** ON

You know welders that for $17.90/hr? Spill the beans, fool. I need names and phone numbers.

Probably about right for some entry level welders away from metro areas.

Cringe,

These type of posts are not a good look

It’s such a ****ing joke, the people complaining that is.

He asked them to work 40 hours a week, and somehow some of you think that’s outrageous. Bunch of ****ing lazy ****s tell you what

When you think of it this place is a microcosm of Twitter. The mods get a lot of shit but they keep the place running pretty smoothly. But not without controversy. But the rules are much simpler. It’s easier to just say sports and politics are treated separately, and the politics side can largely go unfiltered. The forum is built for the users not to turn a profit. And even within sports we tend to agree on the majority of things with the commonality of loving the chiefs.

I don’t envy the job of running Twitter which is why you can tell Dorsey tried like hell for years to move away from it. Imagine cp on a global scale. Every day finding and nuking trolls and bots. Having a wide range of opposing opinions and trying to keep the space enjoyable. All while appeasing advertisers. Now imagine this on a global scale where other countries will regulate the hell out of hate speech and others who will murder or imprison people over speech. And that is an insight into what musk inherited and I don’t think he even realized what he got himself into. It’s more a wonder that Twitter has survived as long as it has.

I take it you don't work in IT? I use to go into the office and work 60-70 hrs per week then Covid hit and I haven't been back in the office since. I still put in 40-50 hrs\week but I am not doing those long hours again unless it is an emergency.

If you are a software\IT company and don't have a WFH policy good luck trying to find quality employees anymore, that ship has sailed. That is why Elon started back tracking on his ultimatum but it was to late. All of those software developers\engineers can go work somewhere else and work from home with the same pay or probably more.

Honestly there is no reason why most people whether they are in Administrative staff, IT, Finance, Accounting, HR need to be in the office anymore other than some out of touch or old manager think by having them in the office they can control them better. Not realizing that crappy employees will find ways to waste time in the office just as easily as they could working from home.

Times have changed.

Nah,

There are a billion reasons those other positions work better in person. IT might be the only one that works decent to great outside and thats because of the nature of it.

Admin/Finance/Accounting/HR where information needs to flow quickly and answers need to be had right away will always work better in person.

It would jus seem wrong doings the the things I do at work in my house lol.

I think youd be suprised how many people have jerked off at work

That is not reality. It is the new norm to accommodate wfh. Let’s start first with not wasting an hour or more on commute. Let alone not being forced to recruit employees who live less than a half hour away. Several fortune 100 companies I know have tried to bring back work in office and a small % are going back. I personally like the office a few days a week just for the networking. But I don’t have to. You can answer questions ultra fast on teams chat.

Respectfully disagree and in IT we are always troubleshooting stuff in real time. There is now technologies for this like Teams, Slack, Zoom. :)

The company I work for all admin staff like HR, billing, accounting never have come back to the office. Our CEO decided smartly that he was going to lose alot of staff and they can better utilize their office space. We do have a billing team where their supervisor makes them come in 1 day a week and they all hate it and don't see a reason for it. Mind you these same people 2 years ago all came into the office everyday and worked 40 hrs.

Times have changed my man.

My company just closed two of our regional offices and turned loose of two of our four floors at HQ. It's saving us on the order of $75 million per year.

Granted, that's a drop in the bucket compared to labor costs, so there's a valid debate about productivity, but that's complex enough that no one REALLY knows the optional approach. But our turnover is super low, and all our financial metrics are still right where we want them to be. (And you can bet we're interviewing ex-Twitter folks - we need all the engineers we can find right now.)

Our CEO has declared us a "distributed" company at this point. We have an office for team meetings and such, but otherwise there's no expectation for anyone to go in. She also joked that she'll fire anyone caught sleeping in the office. ROFL

Like I said, I don't disagree that there's room for discussion about the optimal approach, but there's zero question that I'll stick with this place longer since I can work from anywhere.

I think the real key to maintaining productivity is making sure you have remote workers who have good work ethics....I have always told my team that results are the best measure and that working 60 hours a week doesn't impress me.

I still think that coming to the office occasionally has it's benefit, especially when it comes to training or special projects. But if my team is meeting and/or exceeding expectations I could care less where they work from or what they wear while they are working.

What I wouldn't tolerate would be those that are pretending to work (there again results tell the tale) or those who work a 2nd job while doing the original one from home (this is a rare event but does occur)

I sat in on an interesting demo recently. Basically a program that creates user journeys throughout enterprise applications for the purpose of anomaly detection. It’s main use cases are rooted in internal fraud prevention within financial institutions but the conversation quickly shifted to the gray area of employee monitoring in WFH settings.

That seems like a huge waste of resources but it had peoples gears turning.

I doubt that very seriously. I'm not in the market for a certified welder, but I know the local coop starts almost everybody at $15 + Benefits + Pension the last time I asked. That's entry level unskilled labor.

I think a certified welder that isn't a couple assface could get better than $18. If they're willing to do oilfield work, that's 100K easy. Probably closer to 200K.

There may be pockets of cheap ass labor in some rural areas, but it sure as hell isn't mine.

Nah, man it's out there.

On r/Accounting someone posted an Excel Macro that would move the mouse every 5 seconds so their Teams setting doesn't switch to Away.

CPA Firms are different than most everywhere else in terms of work flow, but it's out there.

Your CEO sounds awesome and she appears to actually care about her employees. I would stay there too.

I work for a "healthcare" company and we do alot of behavioral health. We have had our best years financially during the pandemic and people working from home.

We started to see this trend a few years prior to Covid where it was getting tougher to hire psychiatrists and have them work in the office but Covid accelerated that and now all of our psychiatrists work remotely and do telemedicine exclusively. They also use Teams religiously. We have been doing telemed for a decade + but nothing like we do now where it is almost exclusively all telemed.

With the WFH change we have been able to utilize our office space and expand our services into other areas like dental and primary care. Been a windfall.

People can find ways to beat the system....it all gets down to monitoring results.

Beside...all people have to do with Teams is put it on their phone and it will always show them Green/Available.

This software could potentially capture this scenario if a company cared enough to looked. The premise being an employee leaves a crumb trail within the enterprise system. So clicks in certain locations at certain times, ultimately compiling enough data to create a user journey. So anything outside of that pattern would kick out as an anomaly to look into. I guess ****ing off at the exact same time everyday might trick the software but then it would get compared to peers with the same job title/description.

That said, seems like non-productive workers should ultimately reveal themselves as non-productive through existing internal evaluation processes.

The overgeneralization that people that WFH are just GenZ cry babies that want naps and to lounge in there pajamas all day have no idea what WFH actually is or the benefits for people with families.

My wife works from home and she says it is so much more productive for her. She doesn't have to wait an hour and a half to two hours in traffic. She doesn't have people constantly distracting her by stopping in her office just to chat. And she still has close working relationships with people because she is constantly video chatting with people.

Numerous studies have shown that productively goes up with WFH. Not the opposite. Plus as soon as my wife is done she can come out and spend time with our kids because she doesn't have to sit in a car in traffic. She gets more sleep and saves money by not eating out. There really isn't much reason to actually go in.

Sounds like twitter could have really used union representation to me.

Yeah, that is a weird flex. I work and worked for fortune 100 companies. Both are seeing extremely low return to office rates. Very huge % are not gen Z. My experience has been that the main people working office jobs (where in office jobs isn’t particularly necessary) tends to be leadership and actually tends to skew to younger people who don’t have family/kids and are seeking social connection.

If you have good managers they will easily be able to sift out productive workers vs those who aren't doing anything..

You are still in constant or potential contact with your co-workers via the tools mentioned above. Get dragged into BS meetings.

This impression that its all gen-z whiners and loafers who work remotely is just not reality.