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ThyKingdomCome15 01-22-2023 12:15 AM

Our defense came up big against JAX. We'll rely on them even more against BUF/CIN. Pretty scary honestly.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-22-2023 12:26 AM

I’ve seen the future. It includes Brown and Wylie summoning the power to keep Mahomes upright for three hours. It includes Frank the Shark and the Greek Freak shoving Home Alone’s face up his ass. And it includes peg leg Mahomes lighting a victory cigar in the postgame. Let it be known.

Megatron96 01-22-2023 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16753907)
Just depends if they have to amputate or not

Recovery time and stuff

Oooh, maybe he could get one of those pogo stick feet, so he could bounce like 4 feet straight up. Then he could throw no-look passes in three dimensions! Is he going to throw to the guy 5 yards in front of him? No, he's actually throwing a dot to the guy 25 yards downfield! Or, flying spinning passes . . . he needs to ask for that shit.

xztop123 01-22-2023 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16753784)
I'M TELLING YOU

Patrick in that second half, KNEW he couldn't run outside the pocket.

It forced him to go into assassin mode from the pocket.

That is one of the most deadly forms of Patrick Mahomes. It moves the chains and kills the clock.

And we will see it again.

He can’t even move to hand the ball off and he can’t throw outside the hash marks (the throws that take footing)

He’ll still be deadly over the middle throws through yeah.

Redbled 01-22-2023 12:41 AM

We will be underdogs to the Bills and it would not surprise me if to the Bengals too. Mahomes was 70 percent of himself tonight when injured. We absolutely can still win it all however.

staylor26 01-22-2023 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 16754001)
He can’t even move to hand the ball off and he can’t throw outside the hash marks (the throws that take footing)

He’ll still be deadly over the middle throws through yeah.

How do you know what he will and will not be able to do in a week?

He won't be 100%, but that doesn't mean it will be exactly like today.

Chief Nute 01-22-2023 01:08 AM

Simply beating the Jags might not have been a huge deal. But every great team has something happen that defines them and motivates them to do bigger and better things than even they thought they could. Tonight was that moment. Now this Chiefs team knows that they can handle adversity. This team knows they can rally despite what happens.

I wasn’t sure we could overcome the thought that “this is the Bills year”. But now this team has a rallying point.

We are gonna win it all.

the steam 01-22-2023 01:16 AM

Just ask yourself what would be best for the NFL? The NFL is the WWE in cleats. Mahomes will play on a bad leg, the Chiefs will get the win and the legend of Mahomes will grow, every play Mahomes makes the announcers will be like "OMG no other QB is that good only Mahomes!!!" It is fully scripted, book it

dlphg9 01-22-2023 01:59 AM

God it sucks so bad he got injured, because he looked ****ing amazing before it happened. Yeah he looks amazing in the regular season, but he really shines when it matters in the post season.

I can't believe he didn't snap his leg in half.

dlphg9 01-22-2023 02:00 AM

Toney would have had a 200 yard game if Mahomes wouldn't have gotten hurt.

JustDíqLix 01-22-2023 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Hill (Post 16752835)
I've learned to never doubt Patrick Mahomes. So to answer your question, absolutely.

I’ve learned to never doubt Andy Reid.

He made Henne look like Mahomes lite out there.

JustDíqLix 01-22-2023 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 16754001)
He can’t even move to hand the ball off and he can’t throw outside the hash marks (the throws that take footing)

He’ll still be deadly over the middle throws through yeah.

He’s going to have a full week of rest. He’ll be fine.

OnTheWarpath15 01-22-2023 06:10 AM

We can beat anyone as long as ****ing Dave Toub stops giving returners an opportunity.

KICK THAT SHIT OUT OF THE END ZONE

JPH83 01-22-2023 06:48 AM

It can be done imo if he's about 70% or above. But that still requires Bills, Bengals etc to be off, the rest of our guys to have flawless games, and to get a little luck. It's a long shot but what's certain is that Mahomes is the only guy I think is remotely capable of this

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754061)
I’ve learned to never doubt Andy Reid.

He made Henne look like Mahomes lite out there.

Your fraud Buffalo team made Skyler Thompson look like Marino lite so Henne or a banged up Mahomes would shred you apart.

Of course you have to get past Cincy first and not blow your gifted home game today.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-22-2023 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754061)
I’ve learned to never doubt Andy Reid.

He made Henne look like Mahomes lite out there.

It's 545 and you're trolling. Your life is absolutely pathetic.

InChiefsHeaven 01-22-2023 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16754065)
We can beat anyone as long as ****ing Dave Toub stops giving returners an opportunity.

KICK THAT SHIT OUT OF THE END ZONE

Um...could it be that Butker, you know, the guy who actually kicks the ball, just didn't kick it properly?

JustDíqLix 01-22-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16754083)
It's 545 and you're trolling. Your life is absolutely pathetic.

It’s trolling to say your coach is so elite that he makes a crappy backup QB look like a lite version of your elite QB?

Quite the victim mentality you have going on there. Feel free to
victim-on, I won’t respond.

FringeNC 01-22-2023 09:13 AM

It's going to take a really good D performance for us to win. McKinnon will stay in to protect Mahomes' blind side, so our O won't be nearly as explosive. Mahomes' mobility compensates OBJ's massive deficiencies at pass protection. Won't be the case next week.

chiefzilla1501 01-22-2023 09:15 AM

I think Patrick knows this will cement a new story in an already awesome legacy

Andy Reid is going to pull every trick in the book knowing what he has

The team as a whole is going to put a hell of a week in practice knowing they need to step up

We will win and we will do it as a team led by a head coach who will show why he belongs I. The HOF. If he could win with the Detmers he can win with a gimpy mahomes

boilertiger 01-22-2023 09:15 AM

Defense is going to have to play well.

This offense cant score more than 24 points with a gimpy Mahomes vs these defenses. Even that will be a stretch.

Ming the Merciless 01-22-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boilertiger (Post 16754223)
Defense is going to have to play well.

This offense cant score more than 24 points with a gimpy Mahomes vs these defenses. Even that will be a stretch.

guaranteed we drop 35 now

thanks nostrodumbass

Ming the Merciless 01-22-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754205)
It’s trolling to say your coach is so elite that he makes a crappy backup QB look like a lite version of your elite QB?

Quite the victim mentality you have going on there. Feel free to
victim-on, I won’t respond.

go away
your whole team played the victim to avoid a L

just **** off

Ming the Merciless 01-22-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16754081)
Your fraud Buffalo team made Skyler Thompson look like Marino lite so Henne or a banged up Mahomes would shred you apart.

Of course you have to get past Cincy first and not blow your gifted home game today.

cincy is going to destroy these pussies

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754205)
It’s trolling to say your coach is so elite that he makes a crappy backup QB look like a lite version of your elite QB?

Quite the victim mentality you have going on there. Feel free to
victim-on, I won’t respond.

If Cincy beats your fraud team today will you vanish?

Spott 01-22-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754205)
It’s trolling to say your coach is so elite that he makes a crappy backup QB look like a lite version of your elite QB?

Quite the victim mentality you have going on there. Feel free to
victim-on, I won’t respond.

Go suck a fat baby’s dick.

007 01-22-2023 10:45 AM

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IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2023 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16752996)
It's going to be massively swollen for most of the week. There's a nonzero chance it's even more painful to play on next Sunday than it was tonight.

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night... :rolleyes:

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 10:47 AM

Pretty sure Andy Reid could beat fraud Buffalo with any QB… even a turnover prone choking quitter like Josh Allen.

Best22 01-22-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16754061)
I’ve learned to never doubt Andy Reid.

He made Henne look like Mahomes lite out there.

Henne threw for 23 yards in that game

Henne is currently better at handing off from under center though sense he doesn’t have a bad ankle

TEX 01-22-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16754234)
cincy is going to destroy these pussies

Dont think so. They're OL is decimated. Buffalo catches a huge break again. Two weeks ago, the Natti curb stomps the Bills. But feelings and all...

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 16753278)
Toub has been a STC for too long.

Marty was a great coach, but it was time for him to leave KC.

Andy Reid is a great coach, but it was time for him to leave Philly.

Toub was a great STC, but it's time for him to move on.

Sent from my moto g stylus 5G using Tapatalk

We turned over nearly all of the bottom half of our roster... The folks bitching about ST's are the same folks who bitched all last year about Niemann and Sorenson being on the team. They shouldn't be starters but guys like Niemann, Sorenson, O'daniel, Baker, Hughes, Kemp, Pringle and Watts... All multi year players on Toub's units...

Rainbarrel 01-22-2023 11:05 AM

I doubt Allen has more than 1 AFCCG in him. Prove me wrong, The new AFC joker

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16754445)
I doubt Allen has more than 1 AFCCG in him. Prove me wrong, The new AFC joker

With his reckless playing style, Josh Allen’s career arc will likely mirror Cam Newton… done by his early 30’s.

Pepe Silvia 01-22-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16754507)
With his reckless playing style, Josh Allen’s career arc will likely mirror Cam Newton… done by his early 30’s.

Won’t happen, defenders are terrified of tackling him.

DJ's left nut 01-22-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16752947)
He's got a full week to work with the training and coaching staff on ways he can protect his ankle and gain a little bit of mobility so those handoffs don't become as much of a problem.

No, he's not 100%. But he's still Patrick ****ing Mahomes. You see some of those throws he was still able to execute?

The issue for me is that the game may come down to 2-3 plays made/not made.

And if he's not able to practice in full and he's not able to drive off that leg, it just increases the odds of those plays falling into the 'not made' category.

I can think of at least 2 easy throws for PM that he just sailed a bit because he couldn't step into them. And if even one of those ends up picked instead of keeping a drive alive, that could be enough to send us home.

It isn't about him turning into Joey Harrington out there or anything. It's about him being merely mortal. And if that's what he becomes, we're going to be in a world of trouble.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2023 11:43 AM

Would you rather have...

A)Gimpy Mahomes + Healthy OL

B)Full strength Mahomes + Lucas Niang at LT, Nick Allegretti at RG, and Prince Tega Wanogho at RT

Because B is what the Bengals are dealing with right now.

And on the other end, the Bills pass rush has disappeared.

It is what it is. Everyone is dealing with big injury problems right now. This is ours.

Wallymo 01-22-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16752877)
You never ****ing doubt Superman

Well you don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
you don't pull the mask off the ole lone ranger
and you don't mess around with Football Jesus!

FringeNC 01-22-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16754527)
The issue for me is that the game may come down to 2-3 plays made/not made.

And if he's not able to practice in full and he's not able to drive off that leg, it just increases the odds of those plays falling into the 'not made' category.

I can think of at least 2 easy throws for PM that he just sailed a bit because he couldn't step into them. And if even one of those ends up picked instead of keeping a drive alive, that could be enough to send us home.

It isn't about him turning into Joey Harrington out there or anything. It's about him being merely mortal. And if that's what he becomes, we're going to be in a world of trouble.

How many drives does he keep alive with his mobility? A run here and there, dancing around in the pocket and finding a guy...An immobile Mahomes is going to really put pressure on our questionable OTs.

TwistedChief 01-22-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16754527)
The issue for me is that the game may come down to 2-3 plays made/not made.

And if he's not able to practice in full and he's not able to drive off that leg, it just increases the odds of those plays falling into the 'not made' category.

I can think of at least 2 easy throws for PM that he just sailed a bit because he couldn't step into them. And if even one of those ends up picked instead of keeping a drive alive, that could be enough to send us home.

It isn't about him turning into Joey Harrington out there or anything. It's about him being merely mortal. And if that's what he becomes, we're going to be in a world of trouble.

I don’t think anyone disputes any of the above. If he’s not 100%, it’s going to probably show in a handful of plays that a healthy Mahomes would make out of structure that would prolong a drive.

But this is about the existence of a plausible path to victory. And I still think it’s there even if we don’t have those plays that probably are worth 10-14 points.

The margin of error is just going to be razor thin and we’re really going to need the defense to make some plays.

I guess before I’d say we’d win the AFCCG against those teams 6.5/10 times. Now maybe we’re 2/10 or 3/10 depending on the severity of the injury. And those odds give us a fighting chance.

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 11:54 AM

Based on how positive everything is trending even less than 24 hours after the injury, you have to think it is entirely possible that Mahomes could be back to like 80% of his usual self next Sunday night. Especially after a full week of treatments on the ankle.

Also Andy will have an entire week to create a gameplan that accommodates whatever limitations Mahomes will have with the injury.

We good.

MahomesMagic 01-22-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16754571)
Based on how positive everything is trending even less than 24 hours after the injury, you have to think it is entirely possible that Mahomes could be back to like 80% of his usual self next Sunday night. Especially after a full week of treatments on the ankle.

Also Andy will have an entire week to create a gameplan that accommodates whatever limitations Mahomes will have with the injury.

We good.

We'll beat Buffalo if they get through.

Probably beat Cincinnati too but that's a tougher ask because their DL is better.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2023 11:58 AM

Whatever happens, happens.

At least we're not dealing with this:

https://taylorblitztimes.files.wordp...tana.jpg?w=640

tredadda 01-22-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16754571)
Based on how positive everything is trending even less than 24 hours after the injury, you have to think it is entirely possible that Mahomes could be back to like 80% of his usual self next Sunday night. Especially after a full week of treatments on the ankle.

Also Andy will have an entire week to create a gameplan that accommodates whatever limitations Mahomes will have with the injury.

We good.

KC will have to focus more on the run. We have the horses to win without Mahomes being 100%. He will have to spend more time in the pocket and maneuver there even though it sucks some. His game will be more limited in he can’t scramble as much or throw the deep bombs. Even at 75% he is still better than almost any QB in football. The offense will have to adjust some.

FloridaMan88 01-22-2023 12:55 PM

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Coochie liquor 01-22-2023 01:12 PM

Andy has a week to draw the offense down some to protect Pat. Run more, more screens, TEs in to help block for our OTs. If anyone can come up with a plan to make this easier, it’s Andy.

Imon Yourside 01-22-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16754789)
Andy has a week to draw the offense down some to protect Pat. Run more, more screens, TEs in to help block for our OTs. If anyone can come up with a plan to make this easier, it’s Andy.

Moar Belldozer!

tredadda 01-22-2023 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16754789)
Andy has a week to draw the offense down some to protect Pat. Run more, more screens, TEs in to help block for our OTs. If anyone can come up with a plan to make this easier, it’s Andy.

That’s the beauty of having one of the greatest offensive minds of all time as our HC.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2023 01:19 PM

HENNETHING IS POSSIBLE LMAO


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