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O.city 03-06-2023 10:51 AM

Look around the league. All the big singings from 2 years ago getting cut.

Bud Dupree cut.

Hoover 03-06-2023 10:52 AM

I want the Chiefs to draft another WR prospect.

I also want the Chiefs to sign a vet WR, because we need that besides just MVS. As mentioned above, it needs to be a 1-2 year deal and not break the bank. I'd be all over Robert Woods, Allen Robinson, or D Hop, but they are not getting a big contract from me.

htismaqe 03-06-2023 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16839144)
Name mentioned on Times Ours that actually could make sense for a year….

Keenan Allen

I don't want anything to do with that guy. Runs his mouth and sits in the tub. Pass.

O.city 03-06-2023 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16839155)
I want the Chiefs to draft another WR prospect.

I also want the Chiefs to sign a vet WR, because we need that besides just MVS. As mentioned above, it needs to be a 1-2 year deal and not break the bank. I'd be all over Robert Woods, Allen Robinson, or D Hop, but they are not getting a big contract from me.

This is what I'm saying. I'd take any of those guys on cheap deals.

nychief 03-06-2023 10:55 AM

I think we are going to resign JuJu AND I think we'll bring in one of the vets, allen, robinson, OBJ or some such as well on a short deal. I think we also draft a wideout. We have three WRs on the roster right now, we are going to see investment in that group.

O.city 03-06-2023 10:56 AM

You've gotta draft guys at WR....basically every year for a bit here. We need to hit on a couple.

The 1 year vets are great but you end up doing the same dance again and again.

RunKC 03-06-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16839157)
I don't want anything to do with that guy. Runs his mouth and sits in the tub. Pass.

Only missed 6 games in the 5 seasons before this last one. Seems to have had a hamstring issue like McDuffie and the training staff that punctured Tyrod Taylor’s lung shockingly brought him back early.

As for his attitude…idk. We did just sign Juju who ran his mouth and did tik tok dances on teams logos

O.city 03-06-2023 10:59 AM

Keenan is really good in the short and intermediate route stuff. Would pair well with MVS and could take some stuff off Kelce.

I like it, but I didn't think they were gonna cut him?

O.city 03-06-2023 11:10 AM

So on Robinson, you could send them a 6th and get Robinson and pay him 5 - 8 mil this year?

BryanBusby 03-06-2023 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16838921)
Rams will eat a bunch of his salary.

I am a .....maybe?

Jesus ****, no.

FloridaMan88 03-06-2023 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16839169)
You've gotta draft guys at WR....basically every year for a bit here. We need to hit on a couple.

The 1 year vets are great but you end up doing the same dance again and again.

True, but the issue with relying on rookie WR's is they historically have a minimal impact in Andy Reid's offenses.

O.city 03-06-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16839198)
True, but the issue with relying on rookie WR's is they historically have a minimal impact in Andy Reid's offenses.

Use the vet Wr's for that. JJSS this year with drafting Moore etc.

O.city 03-06-2023 11:16 AM

https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/st...491289090?s=20

O.city 03-06-2023 11:22 AM

Does Dupree have anything left? Might be a decent vet pass rusher.

chiefforlife 03-06-2023 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16839209)
Does Dupree have anything left? Might be a decent vet pass rusher.

Dupree is running on empty.

Leonard Floyd could be this years Carlos Dunlap! Id do that.

TwistedChief 03-06-2023 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16839144)
Name mentioned on Times Ours that actually could make sense for a year….

Keenan Allen

I don't think he's getting cut:

Quote:

“Keenan Allen, to me, he’s our Andre Reed, he’s our Charlie Joiner,” said Telesco, referring to Reed, who played 15 seasons in Buffalo and Joiner, who played 11 seasons with the Chargers. “He’s an incredible football player, we have a great quarterback, we need weapons around him. There’s never been any thought of (cutting Allen). So, he’s with us, and between him and Mike Williams and Josh Palmer, we think that’s a great three receivers for our quarterback.”

dirk digler 03-06-2023 11:45 AM

Titans are shopping Henry. wow

Skyy God 03-06-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16839245)
Titans are shopping Henry. wow

Yet keeping Tannehill.

chiefforlife 03-06-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16839248)
Yet keeping Tannehill.

LOL!

staylor26 03-06-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16839248)
Yet keeping Tannehill.

A lot of smoke that they're keeping Tannehill because they're trying to trade up for a QB and don't want to show their hand. There's no rush to release him is that's the case.

htismaqe 03-06-2023 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16839267)
A lot of smoke that they're keeping Tannehill because they're trying to trade up for a QB and don't want to show their hand. There's no rush to release him is that's the case.

And then there's Malik Wilis. ROFL

Coogs 03-06-2023 12:07 PM

If we tag Brown tomorrow, we will be around 23.5 million over the cap according to Over The Cap.

Not going to be a lot of shopping money left.

ToxSocks 03-06-2023 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 16839301)
If we tag Brown tomorrow, we will be around 23.5 million over the cap according to Over The Cap.

Not going to be a lot of shopping money left.

Not really a lot of shopping to do, tbh. This team is so young. When you have a team full of rookies that just won the SB there's not gonna be a lot of guys you'd want to bring in.

New World Order 03-06-2023 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 16839301)
If we tag Brown tomorrow, we will be around 23.5 million over the cap according to Over The Cap.

Not going to be a lot of shopping money left.

I'm expecting a cheap 1-year deal for a veteran WR and re-signing someone like Carlos Dunlap or keeping Clark.

That's about it.

Bowser 03-06-2023 01:40 PM

Calvin Ridley reinstated. The Jags have got some weapons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...es/ar-AA18hM1Q

staylor26 03-06-2023 01:47 PM

I didn't realize Ridely is already turning 29 at the end of the year.

Combine that with a lot of time off, I'm not so sure that they get what they're hoping for there.

displacedinMN 03-06-2023 02:23 PM

Saw Derrick Henry to Bears?

can any one confirm

cant trust twitter

smithandrew051 03-06-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16839865)
Saw Derrick Henry to Bears?

can any one confirm

cant trust twitter

Titans are shopping him.

Pretty much everything I saw was Eagles fans begging for him.

UChieffyBugger 03-06-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16839314)
Not really a lot of shopping to do, tbh. This team is so young. When you have a team full of rookies that just won the SB there's not gonna be a lot of guys you'd want to bring in.

I disagree. What we done last season was an anomaly imo and relying on the same strategy again would be very risky when we are set to lose vets like Thornhill, Hardman, Saunders among others. I want more vets on that defense next season tbh.

Chris Meck 03-06-2023 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16839904)
I disagree. What we done last season was an anomaly imo and relying on the same strategy again would be very risky when we are set to lose vets like Thornhill, Hardman, Saunders among others. I want more vets on that defense next season tbh.

Nah. We'll be bargain shopping and leaning on the draft.

As I've stated- Mahomes is 23% of our cap next year. We flat can't afford any high salary FA's. We have to spread around that remaining cap and shoot for a best 52 plus Mahomes strategy.

UChieffyBugger 03-06-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16840028)
Nah. We'll be bargain shopping and leaning on the draft.

As I've stated- Mahomes is 23% of our cap next year. We flat can't afford any high salary FA's. We have to spread around that remaining cap and shoot for a best 52 plus Mahomes strategy.

No-one is saying spend wrecklessly like the Rams did. But I want five or six vets brought in on that defense now we are losing guys. Thinking we can just keep playing rookies back there is simply naive. Watson and Mcdiffie both struggled at times in the playoffs and there's only so long that you can play with fire like that. Big voices in the locker room like Thornhill and Clark MUST be replaced with experience imo.

tredadda 03-06-2023 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16839157)
I don't want anything to do with that guy. Runs his mouth and sits in the tub. Pass.

It is the Chargers though. If Cal Ripken played football for the Chargers he would miss half the season due to injuries. Remember they messed up Tyrod Taylor pretty bad.

staylor26 03-06-2023 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16840028)
Nah. We'll be bargain shopping and leaning on the draft.

As I've stated- Mahomes is 23% of our cap next year. We flat can't afford any high salary FA's. We have to spread around that remaining cap and shoot for a best 52 plus Mahomes strategy.

Nah man, if they aren't re-signing OBJ, they aren't going into the draft with more holes.

They will use the money they saved to fill holes elsewhere. That's the entire point of not tagging him.

RunKC 03-06-2023 03:36 PM

Now that Orlando is out I think the odds that Juju returns just went up pretty drastically

Mecca 03-06-2023 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16840138)
Now that Orlando is out I think the odds that Juju returns just went up pretty drastically

If he thinks he's gonna get like 18 per cause of how bad the market is, I'm not paying that.

BryanBusby 03-06-2023 03:38 PM

Doubtful. Unless they kick the can on Pat's deal we're dumpster diving.

KSCHIEF 03-06-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16840145)
Doubtful. Unless they kick the can on Pat's deal we're dumpster diving.

We didn't restructure Mahomes last year but this year I think we do. Creates a ton of flexibility for us over the next 2 years. Next year we have very few impact FA's (Sneed, Gay, Danna are the only main contributors I think). I'm assuming we work out something with Chris Jones this year to extend but that doesn't change his cap number much tbh. Already making $20mil a year

scho63 03-06-2023 03:47 PM

I'll let Burt Leitch take care of all this shit. He's done pretty ****ing good so far.

Mecca 03-06-2023 03:47 PM

I doubt we're adding any big time guys this offseason, it's a bad FA class.

comochiefsfan 03-06-2023 03:49 PM

Let.

Burt.

Cook.

KSCHIEF 03-06-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16840170)
Let.

Burt.

Cook.

Agree -- but they have consistently NOT wanted to go into the draft with obvious holes so they can take BPA. Currently the roster has 2-3 glaring holes. OT, DT, Edge. So expect moves if history is a guide...

BryanBusby 03-06-2023 03:56 PM

Everything is going to be fine.

O.city 03-06-2023 03:59 PM

They get Jones extended, you'll have another 14 or so million I'd imagine.

comochiefsfan 03-06-2023 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KSCHIEF (Post 16840190)
Agree -- but they have consistently NOT wanted to go into the draft with obvious holes so they can take BPA. Currently the roster has 2-3 glaring holes. OT, DT, Edge. So expect moves if history is a guide...

They are going to make a move at LT.

This front office has made it clear they aren’t going to play around with Patrick’s protection.

Would like to see a long term solution this off-season as opposed to another stop gap.

Red Dawg 03-06-2023 04:12 PM

Trust Veach.

Mecca 03-06-2023 04:15 PM

We might have 2 rookie OT's this year but thats the name of the game sometimes.

tredadda 03-06-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16840235)
We might have 2 rookie OT's this year but thats the name of the game sometimes.

But will they? I imagine they can replace Wylie relatively easily without breaking the bank. LT is a strong possibility though based off how everything is looking so far.

Megatron96 03-07-2023 01:10 AM

Eric Fisher at RT? I have no idea what he'd get, or even if he'd be interested, but maybe just to have a vet presence anchoring one end of the line at a low price, plus being able to mentor a rookie LT in case we draft Darnell Wright?

ThyKingdomCome15 03-07-2023 02:42 AM

Man, not tagging Brown and cutting Clark. Veach is out for blood with these bloated contract guys. Tyreek set a trend with this organization.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...n?platform=amp

ThyKingdomCome15 03-07-2023 02:46 AM

Wow!! Chiefs save $21 million by cutting Clark. They have all the money to pay Brown but... won't? Veach is going next level GM mode right now. Must love what he's seeing from these T's in the draft... I guess. Man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profoot...PoOKLoAo_162:0

MIAdragon 03-07-2023 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16841044)
Wow!! Chiefs save $21 million by cutting Clark. They have all the money to pay Brown but... won't? Veach is going next level GM mode right now. Must love what he's seeing from these T's in the draft... I guess. Man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profoot...PoOKLoAo_162:0

They only gain 7ish from cutting him.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-07-2023 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 16841045)
They only gain 7ish from cutting him.

That's sounds more like it. If I remember right there's quite a bit of dead money.

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 05:35 AM

An idea for a cheap replacement for JuJu.

Sign Mike Gesicki for 8 million a year.


He can also work the slot.

The issue/problem with Gesicki is a TE that isn't a blocker is just another WR. But our focal weapon is Kelce.

So we can just use him as big slot weapon.

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 16841045)
They only gain 7ish from cutting him.

MAR 6 2023Released by Kansas City (KC), clearing $21M of cap

7 million is his dead cap number.

Kman34 03-07-2023 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 16841045)
They only gain 7ish from cutting him.

That’s dead cap..

In58men 03-07-2023 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16841044)
Wow!! Chiefs save $21 million by cutting Clark. They have all the money to pay Brown but... won't? Veach is going next level GM mode right now. Must love what he's seeing from these T's in the draft... I guess. Man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profoot...PoOKLoAo_162:0

Lol what?

Veach is definitely getting a long term deal done, I don’t understand all the panic. OBJ isn’t going anywhere.

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16841044)
Wow!! Chiefs save $21 million by cutting Clark. They have all the money to pay Brown but... won't? Veach is going next level GM mode right now. Must love what he's seeing from these T's in the draft... I guess. Man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profoot...PoOKLoAo_162:0

More like they have a line in the sand they arent crossing. Brown wants big money, the Champs have decided they wont go over a number just like Hill.

RealSNR 03-07-2023 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KSCHIEF (Post 16840190)
Agree -- but they have consistently NOT wanted to go into the draft with obvious holes so they can take BPA. Currently the roster has 2-3 glaring holes. OT, DT, Edge. So expect moves if history is a guide...

DT isn't a glaring hole lol.

It would be NICE to get somebody else in there, but they can easily get Rando McShmando in free agency and be just fine.

Let Nnadi walk and we've already improved at the position.

Easy 6 03-07-2023 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16841065)
An idea for a cheap replacement for JuJu.

Sign Mike Gesicki for 8 million a year.


He can also work the slot.

The issue/problem with Gesicki is a TE that isn't a blocker is just another WR. But our focal weapon is Kelce.

So we can just use him as big slot weapon.

Thats an interesting workaround :hmmm:

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16841098)
Thats an interesting workaround :hmmm:

It's an option because WRs like Kirk getting 20 million.

Tight ends paid less.

Gesicki essentially a WR as he does not block but we don't need him to.

It's a toolbox solution.

Easy 6 03-07-2023 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16841105)
It's an option because WRs like Kirk getting 20 million.

Tight ends paid less.

Gesicki essentially a WR as he does not block but we don't need him to.

It's a toolbox solution.

I’d prefer to keep JuJu, but that seems like a cost effective plan B

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16841114)
I’d prefer to keep JuJu, but that seems like a cost effective plan B

JuJu is a top player in the slot.

I think we would keep him but 15 million seems too much for what he does.

Dull Tools 03-07-2023 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16841105)
It's an option because WRs like Kirk getting 20 million.

Tight ends paid less.

Gesicki essentially a WR as he does not block but we don't need him to.

It's a toolbox solution.

I would be very keen for this. Why pay WR money when you can get away with a TE for nearly half the money?

BryanBusby 03-07-2023 08:00 AM

**** this is already a long offseason.

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dull Tools (Post 16841118)
I would be very keen for this. Why pay WR money when you can get away with a TE for nearly half the money?

I mentioned in the draft forum that Dalton Kincaid could also do it.

He would take the JuJu role and then eventually the Kelce role.

Kman34 03-07-2023 09:11 AM

Will this help with extending Jones??

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 09:15 AM

So how cheap are we getting Joe Mixon now?

BleedingRed 03-07-2023 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16841217)
So how cheap are we getting Joe Mixon now?

**** that, he has the vision problem like CEH.

I like our RB room right now, just keep it together.

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16841221)
**** that, he has the vision problem like CEH.

I like our RB room right now, just keep it together.

Yeah true he went 1 for 11 shooting a 13 year old. No vision at all.

Direckshun 03-07-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16840204)
They get Jones extended, you'll have another 14 or so million I'd imagine.

At this point, I think I'd bet money Chris Jones does not get extended or paid.

This may be his last year as a Chief.

tredadda 03-07-2023 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16841115)
JuJu is a top player in the slot.

I think we would keep him but 15 million seems too much for what he does.

Is that what he is asking for or is that what we think he will cost?

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16841282)
At this point, I think I'd bet money Chris Jones does not get extended or paid.

This may be his last year as a Chief.

Seems pretty early in the process still to jump to this conclusion.

MahomesMagic 03-07-2023 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16841296)
Is that what he is asking for or is that what we think he will cost?

My guess.

Titty Meat 03-07-2023 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16841282)
At this point, I think I'd bet money Chris Jones does not get extended or paid.

This may be his last year as a Chief.

LMAO

staylor26 03-07-2023 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16841328)
LMAO

"Carlos Dunlap is 50/50 to make the roster"

"Trent McDuffie isn't ready yet"

O.city 03-07-2023 10:15 AM

If Jones wants to be the highest paid DT in football....I dunno that they'll do that. I would, but I get having some apprehension there.

IF that's the case you probably should look to move him this year.

staylor26 03-07-2023 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16841353)
If Jones wants to be the highest paid DT in football....I dunno that they'll do that. I would, but I get having some apprehension there.

IF that's the case you probably should look to move him this year.

Pretty sure there was a report saying he just wanted to be 2nd.

R Clark 03-07-2023 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16841368)
Pretty sure there was a report saying he just wanted to be 2nd.

That’s what I read ,it also listed number two’s salary and it was still pretty big numbers . Can’t remember who it was. Obj and Jones are pretty important positions on this team that’s a pretty hard decision to make who gets paid. With the talent on the D line you bout half to have a talent like Jones on the other hand it’s extremely important to protect 15.it’s going to be real interesting to see how this all plays out .

Dunerdr 03-07-2023 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16841368)
Pretty sure there was a report saying he just wanted to be 2nd.

The current second highest paid is like 21.5 and Donald is 31. So second highest paid could be a wide range of numbers.

htismaqe 03-07-2023 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16841408)
The current second highest paid is like 21.5 and Donald is 31. So second highest paid could be a wide range of numbers.

Exactly what I was going to say.


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