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Megatron96 06-08-2023 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16974135)
You claim to be this numbers guy and then make a completely fictional comment like this.


I amended it. But really, we shouldn't be able to afford him. He's a top-10 RB, still playing in his prime. Realistically he should command more money than we can afford.

penguinz 06-08-2023 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16974139)
I amended it. But really, we shouldn't be able to afford him. He's a top-10 RB, still playing in his prime. Realistically he should command more money than we can afford.
If KC wanted to make him the highest paid RB in the history of the league they could.

Salary cap is just a built in escape clause the teams use as needed.

New World Order 06-08-2023 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16973894)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings have informed Dalvin Cook that he’s being released, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1666806828804739073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Miami Dolphins and Denver Broncos are two of the teams that are expected to have an interest in signing running back Dalvin Cook once he officially is released, per sources. There likely will be others, but those two have been monitoring Cook for weeks.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1666807545015705601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Good lord, Payton has no confidence in Russ at all LMAO

Megatron96 06-08-2023 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16974146)
If KC wanted to make him the highest paid RB in the history of the league they could.

Salary cap is just a built in escape clause the teams use as needed.


Well, sure. We could afford DHop easily if we wanted to.


I'm simply going along with the current CP line of "we have no money," and "the plan is our RBs/TEs are now the primary offensive weapons."


As I don't have sit-downs with Andy Reid/Brett Veach, I can't say that those ideas aren't true.

If they are, then Cook makes a ton of sense. IF he'll take a minimum contract.

kevrunner 06-08-2023 12:19 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/betonline_ag?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@betonline_ag</a>⁩ is giving the Dolphins 1/1 odds to sign Dalvin Cook <a href="https://t.co/XnUTfYQ5sn">pic.twitter.com/XnUTfYQ5sn</a></p>&mdash; Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcel_LJ/status/1666850858347245568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 06-08-2023 12:24 PM
I'd rather use whatever cap space we have left on DL.

gordonelloyd 06-08-2023 02:46 PM
If the Chiefs want to go after somebody, they shouldn’t really be able to afford,it should be Hopkins, or another wide receiver, not Cook. We don’t need a starting running back. We maybe need a back up.

Also, I don’t understand why buffalo wouldn’t pull out all the stops to get him. They won’t be an elite team until they get a running back who can take pressure off Allan. Yes, Cook’s younger brother is already there; but he’s not nearly as good. That was a great post above of 53 seconds showing how cook is still a star running back.

Sure, it would be great to add him to the Chiefs, but there are better ways to spend our money. And probably defensive tackle. Has there been any discussion about us getting Suh?

JPH83 06-08-2023 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16974162)
I'd rather use whatever cap space we have left on DL.
Is the correct answer

MarkDavis'Haircut 06-08-2023 03:43 PM
Watch Buffalo overpay for him.

Megatron96 06-08-2023 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 16974434)
If the Chiefs want to go after somebody, they shouldn’t really be able to afford,it should be Hopkins, or another wide receiver, not Cook. We don’t need a starting running back. We maybe need a back up.

Also, I don’t understand why buffalo wouldn’t pull out all the stops to get him. They won’t be an elite team until they get a running back who can take pressure off Allan. Yes, Cook’s younger brother is already there; but he’s not nearly as good. That was a great post above of 53 seconds showing how cook is still a star running back.

Sure, it would be great to add him to the Chiefs, but there are better ways to spend our money. And probably defensive tackle. Has there been any discussion about us getting Suh?

RBs are a lot cheaper than WRs. And we seem to have a full room of WRs, while there's still space for a RB, I think.

BryanBusby 06-08-2023 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16974154)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/betonline_ag?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@betonline_ag</a>⁩ is giving the Dolphins 1/1 odds to sign Dalvin Cook <a href="https://t.co/XnUTfYQ5sn">pic.twitter.com/XnUTfYQ5sn</a></p>&mdash; Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcel_LJ/status/1666850858347245568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The Bengals should strongly consider it. Swapping out Mixon for Cook behind that line would be a gain.

kevrunner 06-08-2023 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16974985)
The Bengals should strongly consider it. Swapping out Mixon for Cook behind that line would be a gain.
I think we’ll know soon about Cook, I don’t think he’ll last long as a free agent. If KC was interested I would think that either them or the Bengals would be the best landing spot for Cook, then Miami. Teams cannot start to negotiate with him until 4PM tomorrow (Friday).

staylor26 06-08-2023 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16974985)
The Bengals should strongly consider it. Swapping out Mixon for Cook behind that line would be a gain.
I think Chase Brown is going to be a stud and maybe even take Mixon's job this year.

saphojunkie 06-08-2023 11:30 PM
I'd rather have Hunt back.

gordonelloyd 06-09-2023 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16974985)
The Bengals should strongly consider it. Swapping out Mixon for Cook behind that line would be a gain.
Yes, that would definitely be a good move for them and very dangerous for us.

Presumably, cutting Mixon Would give them most of the Space they needed for Cook.

BryanBusby 06-09-2023 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16975007)
I think Chase Brown is going to be a stud and maybe even take Mixon's job this year.
I think it's very possible. Mixon looked like he was starting to hit that wall last season.

BEAVER 06-09-2023 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16974985)
The Bengals should strongly consider it. Swapping out Mixon for Cook behind that line would be a gain.
Unless it comes down to a shooting situation. Mixon dominates there.

RunKC 06-09-2023 10:55 AM
Texans should sign him bc he’d be their best RB day 1 but man I hope he doesn’t go to Jacksonville.

An Etienne/Cook backfield with Pederson would be bad news for defenses

ToxSocks 06-09-2023 10:59 AM
Does the NFC not ****ing give a shit about winning or something?

Why does every player worth a shit get released to come join some AFC squad?

FFS, why is every rumor for any player worth a shit linked to an AFC team. Meanwhile, the only legitimate team in the NFC is the Eagles.

Skyy God 06-09-2023 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16975491)
Does the NFC not ****ing give a shit about winning or something?

Why does every player worth a shit get released to come join some AFC squad?

FFS, why is every rumor for any player worth a shit linked to an AFC team. Meanwhile, the only legitimate team in the NFC is the Eagles.
49ers too, if Purdy recovers from his UCL, continues to develop, and Rat Jr. doesn’t get him reinjured.

Mecca 06-09-2023 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16975487)
Texans should sign him bc he’d be their best RB day 1 but man I hope he doesn’t go to Jacksonville.

An Etienne/Cook backfield with Pederson would be bad news for defenses
The Texans just had a rookie RB be one of the league leaders in rushing, wouldn't that just be a waste of money for them?

staylor26 06-09-2023 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16975487)
Texans should sign him bc he’d be their best RB day 1 but man I hope he doesn’t go to Jacksonville.

An Etienne/Cook backfield with Pederson would be bad news for defenses
Umm Dameon Pierce?

Buehler445 06-09-2023 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 16975499)
49ers too, if Purdy recovers from his UCL, continues to develop, and Rat Jr. doesn’t get him reinjured.
So just the Eagles then?

In58men 06-09-2023 11:57 AM
We have Prince, McKinnon and Pacheco. We don’t need 4 RBs nor the wasted depth. This would be a head scratcher if Chiefs signed him.

BossChief 06-09-2023 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16975491)
Does the NFC not ****ing give a shit about winning or something?

Why does every player worth a shit get released to come join some AFC squad?

FFS, why is every rumor for any player worth a shit linked to an AFC team. Meanwhile, the only legitimate team in the NFC is the Eagles.
They are all trying to spend their way to catching up to Mahomes.

Megatron96 06-09-2023 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16975579)
We have Prince, McKinnon and Pacheco. We don’t need 4 RBs nor the wasted depth. This would be a head scratcher if Chiefs signed him.
Well, we really don't know for certain that Prince will suit up regularly. I know there's a lot of buzz about him right now, but he's not a lock yet. It's Pacheco and KcKinnon for sure, and the rest of the RBs are pretty fluid.



But this is all hypothetical. Cook is a legit RB1, and there's no good reason to believe he'd want to come to KC and be a backup to anyone on a vet min salary.

UChieffyBugger 06-09-2023 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16975579)
We have Prince, McKinnon and Pacheco. We don’t need 4 RBs nor the wasted depth. This would be a head scratcher if Chiefs signed him.
Jet and CEH have a history of injuries and Pacheco played through two last season and with his style there's no way he won't get banged up from time to time. Prince is a great story but you can't put all your eggs in an unproven kid's basket like that imo.

Shady, Bell, Jet and Jones. Those are the four vet RB's Veach has signed in the last four seasons and Cook is better than all of those guys so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Veach make a call.

Dave Lane 06-09-2023 08:07 PM
Hey if the chiefs bet a million dollars on themselves to sign Cook they could just pay him from the winnings!

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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16974154)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/betonline_ag?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@betonline_ag</a>⁩ is giving the Dolphins 1/1 odds to sign Dalvin Cook <a href="https://t.co/XnUTfYQ5sn">pic.twitter.com/XnUTfYQ5sn</a></p>&mdash; Marcel Louis-Jacques (@Marcel_LJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcel_LJ/status/1666850858347245568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 06-09-2023 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16975491)
Does the NFC not ****ing give a shit about winning or something?

Why does every player worth a shit get released to come join some AFC squad?

FFS, why is every rumor for any player worth a shit linked to an AFC team. Meanwhile, the only legitimate team in the NFC is the Eagles.
The 49ers are a legit team too

staylor26 06-10-2023 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16976247)
The 49ers are a legit team too
With huge question marks at QB every year though.

kevrunner 06-10-2023 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 16976205)
Hey if the chiefs bet a million dollars on themselves to sign Cook they could just pay him from the winnings!
I couldn’t see that ever happening but I could see the Chiefs having to forfeit a bunch of 1st round draft picks and be forced to pay a huge fine if they did bet.

Bump 06-10-2023 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16977123)
I couldn’t see that ever happening but I could see the Chiefs having to forfeit a bunch of 1st round draft picks and be forced to pay a huge fine if they did bet.
probably not the best idea if they are suspending players for half a season for betting on if Jokic has a triple double or not for the Denver Nuggets

Dave Lane 06-12-2023 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16977124)
probably not the best idea if they are suspending players for half a season for betting on if Jokic has a triple double or not for the Denver Nuggets
It’s a joke 🤣 I’m pretty sure the Chiefs have the cash to pay him if not the cap room, but a good argument for Clark if he’s feeling poor this week.

New World Order 06-12-2023 03:43 PM
1-year 400k contract for Dalvin Coks!!!!

Kiimo 06-12-2023 05:00 PM
The list of big name RBs without a team is getting bigger instead of smaller


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Patriots have waived RB James Robinson.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1668353512076369934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tredadda 06-12-2023 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16978824)
The list of big name RBs without a team is getting bigger instead of smaller


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Patriots have waived RB James Robinson.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1668353512076369934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
From what I read they are pretty thin at RB. One has to wonder why they released him.

Dunerdr 07-17-2023 06:08 AM
2k posts LFG!!!

kcgreene 07-17-2023 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 16978824)
The list of big name RBs without a team is getting bigger instead of smaller


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Patriots have waived RB James Robinson.</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1668353512076369934?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I missed this one entirely. That's a weird move. I feel like maybe there is something I must be missing, guy is around 4.5 yds / carry over the last 3 years (dropped to 2.9 when traded to NYJ, but was solid with JAX). Not a world beater, but he could fit very nicely in someone's system and can even be a lead guy for a number of teams.

Dunerdr 07-17-2023 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17019318)
I missed this one entirely. That's a weird move. I feel like maybe there is something I must be missing, guy is around 4.5 yds / carry over the last 3 years (dropped to 2.9 when traded to NYJ, but was solid with JAX). Not a world beater, but he could fit very nicely in someone's system and can even be a lead guy for a number of teams.
Probably the Achilles deal. He came out of the gate hot, then hot fizzle.

kcgreene 07-17-2023 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17019325)
Probably the Achilles deal. He came out of the gate hot, then hot fizzle.
Maybe, there might be more though. I mean, he was still averaging 4.2 ypc last year after the Achilles when he was in JAX. That's good for 32nd in the league. 39th at 3.9 ypc if you include his numbers after being traded to NYJ.

I'd feel like thats still good enough to land as part of a committee somewhere.

I'm sure he'll end up landing somewhere for some role. Maybe this season, maybe next. Just a situation that is curious to me.

smithandrew051 07-17-2023 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17019292)
2k posts LFG!!!
I’m ready to get hurt again

Dunerdr 07-17-2023 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17019344)
I’m ready to get hurt again
I am not hurt I knew Hopkins was a treacherous piece of shit!

smithandrew051 07-17-2023 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17019352)
I am not hurt I knew Hopkins was a treacherous piece of shit!
I was referring to falling off the trampoline again

Simply Red 07-17-2023 08:03 AM
We don't need this piece of shit.


COME ON GUYS JUST 2,400 MORE POSTS!!!

Dunerdr 07-17-2023 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17019361)
I was referring to falling off the trampoline again
GOBLESS

wazu 07-17-2023 09:15 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/a4nALb03ea">pic.twitter.com/a4nALb03ea</a></p>&mdash; Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1680617369029206016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wisconsin_Chief 07-17-2023 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 17019363)
We don't need this piece of shit.


COME ON GUYS JUST 2,400 MORE POSTS!!!
Agreed, to hell with him, he is useless!

Let's make it happen boys!

FloridaMan88 07-17-2023 10:28 AM
Only scenario the Chiefs would even consider signing any of those veteran RB’s is if Pacheco’s recovery from all of his offseason surgeries is slower than expected.

But if Prince continues to emerge even that scenario may not temped them.

Dunerdr 07-17-2023 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17019569)
Only scenario the Chiefs would even consider signing any of those veteran RB’s is if Pacheco’s recovery from all of his offseason surgeries is slower than expected.

But if Prince continues to emerge even that scenario may not temped them.
"continues to emerge"? He hasnt done shit yet.

Couch-Potato 07-17-2023 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17019569)
Only scenario the Chiefs would even consider signing any of those veteran RB’s is if Pacheco’s recovery from all of his offseason surgeries is slower than expected.

But if Prince continues to emerge even that scenario may not temped them.
I agree, another RB would be a nice to have but we don't need one unless someone goes down I don't think.

I'd like to see us pick up another LE that can get to the passer.

Couch-Potato 07-17-2023 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17019828)
I agree, another RB would be a nice to have but we don't need one unless someone goes down I don't think.

I'd like to see us pick up another LE that can get to the passer.
Hmm noticing that NFL coaches do not feel the same way per a recent poll done by ESPN. Apparently, Pacheco didn't crack the top 10 RBs, and didn't get a single honorable mention for 10-20th either:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...s-best-rushers

wazu 07-17-2023 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17019847)
Hmm noticing that NFL coaches do not feel the same way per a recent poll done by ESPN. Apparently, Pacheco didn't crack the top 10 RBs, and didn't get a single honorable mention for 10-20th either:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...s-best-rushers
There are a lot of bad coaches out there. I'll settle for 4.9 yards per carry. (5.3 in the playoffs)

ThaVirus 07-17-2023 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17019470)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/a4nALb03ea">pic.twitter.com/a4nALb03ea</a></p>&mdash; Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1680617369029206016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It’s a cold world for RBs.

It’s crazy how far they’ve fallen from just the early 2000s.

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17019847)
Hmm noticing that NFL coaches do not feel the same way per a recent poll done by ESPN. Apparently, Pacheco didn't crack the top 10 RBs, and didn't get a single honorable mention for 10-20th either:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...s-best-rushers
Eh, I’ll give them some grace there. Pacheco was a non-factor until halfway through the season, at which point he was still splitting duties with Jerick McKinnon.

The article says they were identifying who was the best player today so there was no consideration on age, contract, etc. and Pacheco wasn’t unequivocally better than other rookies like Kenneth Walker, Dameon Pierce, or Tyler Allgeier who themselves are behind proven guys like Henry, CMC, Chubb, Barkley, Cook, Aaron Jones, Jonathon Taylor, and Ekeler.

Then you include guys like Josh Jacobs and Alvin Kamara.

Then you’ve got other potential studs in Miles Sanders, Raheem Mostert, Etienne, etc.

Tony Pollard is ****ing amazing.

Skyy God 07-17-2023 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17019847)
Hmm noticing that NFL coaches do not feel the same way per a recent poll done by ESPN. Apparently, Pacheco didn't crack the top 10 RBs, and didn't get a single honorable mention for 10-20th either:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...s-best-rushers
Of course YOU’D put stock in a pick a name I know contest.

Sassy Squatch 07-17-2023 04:24 PM
Yeah, McKinnon stole a lot of thunder, deservedly so. 500 yards and 9 TDs receiving is pretty damn good.

Dunerdr 07-18-2023 06:10 AM
Watching Dalvin Cook on the Quarterback show, he's always the first one over to talk to cousins after a shit play, and blocking his ass off. I'd kick the tires.

ptlyon 07-18-2023 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17020418)
Watching Dalvin Cook on the Quarterback show, he's always the first one over to talk to cousins after a shit play, and blocking his ass off. I'd kick the tires.
Just telling him he sucks I'm guessing

Simply Red 07-18-2023 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17020016)
Yeah, McKinnon stole a lot of thunder, deservedly so. 500 yards and 9 TDs receiving is pretty damn good.
we got that deal done, right? Pretty sure I remember seeing that.

Couch-Potato 07-18-2023 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyy God (Post 17020012)
Of course YOU’D put stock in a pick a name I know contest.
Ok. Would you like to add some exposition here to help the rest of us catch up to your meaning?

Dunerdr 07-18-2023 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17020422)
Just telling him he sucks I'm guessing
That would be hilarious "Next time throw it to our guy big dog."

Red Dawg 07-18-2023 07:13 AM
Last considered elite RB to get a ring was Lynch in 14. Never spend a 1 on one and never pay one big money. These clowns want like 12-15 per year. They don't lead to titles of any kind in today's game and their life span in the league is short. Blocking is more important than the RB by far. That's a proven fact in the last 8 years.

Skyy God 07-18-2023 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17020439)
Ok. Would you like to add some exposition here to help the rest of us catch up to your meaning?
You like past production (e.g., Hopkins) like fat kids like cake.

Skyy God 07-18-2023 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17020465)
Last considered elite RB to get a ring was Lynch in 14. Never spend a 1 on one and never pay one big money. These clowns want like 12-15 per year. They don't lead to titles of any kind in today's game and their life span in the league is short. Blocking is more important than the RB by far. That's a proven fact in the last 8 years.
“Since 2013, no Super Bowl–winning team has paid its leading rusher more than $2.5 million, and the average salary of the leading rusher on the past 14 Super Bowl teams is just $1.4 million.”

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/7...-franchise-tag

Pasta Little Brioni 07-18-2023 07:51 AM
Churn and burn. You guys should realize this by now. **** "names "

Pollard is "amazing" whoopty doo let him walk too contract time

RockChalk 07-18-2023 08:30 AM
It's really kind of funny, yet sad at the same time. They are all tweeting in solidarity, but also must know that Owners/GMs/Coaches have come to realize that there are only a few big money RBs that make a difference. Gurley's contract and what happened after was the beginning of the end for huge contracts for most RBs.

That said, I think NYG are making a big mistake with Saquon. That dude was a huge reason they made the playoffs last year. Jones isn't repeating that season without him.

Dunerdr 07-18-2023 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17020522)
It's really kind of funny, yet sad at the same time. They are all tweeting in solidarity, but also must know that Owners/GMs/Coaches have come to realize that there are only a few big money RBs that make a difference. Gurley's contract and what happened after was the beginning of the end for huge contracts for most RBs.

That said, I think NYG are making a big mistake with Saquon. That dude was a huge reason they made the playoffs last year. Jones isn't repeating that season without him.
The Giants should have skipped out on Daniel Jones imo. I'd rather have 3-4 years of prime Saquon while looking for a qb upgrade. But they have been bad for so long that ownership probably just said **** it, make the playoffs again.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-18-2023 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 17020522)
It's really kind of funny, yet sad at the same time. They are all tweeting in solidarity, but also must know that Owners/GMs/Coaches have come to realize that there are only a few big money RBs that make a difference. Gurley's contract and what happened after was the beginning of the end for huge contracts for most RBs.

That said, I think NYG are making a big mistake with Saquon. That dude was a huge reason they made the playoffs last year. Jones isn't repeating that season without him.
More reasons to move on from Danny Pennies. Do not pay Running Backs...

O.city 07-18-2023 09:01 AM
Pay Rb's that can catch passes and block, ala McCaffrey and Kamara.

ThaVirus 07-18-2023 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17020559)
Pay Rb's that can catch passes and block, ala McCaffrey and Kamara.
Even those guys have been pretty banged up

O.city 07-18-2023 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17020564)
Even those guys have been pretty banged up
Absolutely, but atleast with those guys there's a chance to get some value for your money.

Mecca 07-18-2023 09:09 AM
I have already seen people saying the NFL needs to fix this or they are gonna have a future problem where no one wants to play RB because they know they don't get paid, so top athletes coming up from high school will avoid that position.

ptlyon 07-18-2023 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17020572)
I have already seen people saying the NFL needs to fix this or they are gonna have a future problem where no one wants to play RB because they know they don't get paid, so top athletes coming up from high school will avoid that position.
Well, the world needs ditch diggers too

wazu 07-18-2023 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17020572)
I have already seen people saying the NFL needs to fix this or they are gonna have a future problem where no one wants to play RB because they know they don't get paid, so top athletes coming up from high school will avoid that position.
Yeah, the whining on social media by the poor RBs has been pretty insufferable this week. Poor, downtrodden millionaire athletes being checked by the laws of supply and demand. Very sad.

Dunerdr 07-18-2023 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17020572)
I have already seen people saying the NFL needs to fix this or they are gonna have a future problem where no one wants to play RB because they know they don't get paid, so top athletes coming up from high school will avoid that position.
I'd still have put my electrician career on hold for a few years just for practics squad money. If they wont do it call me up. I run a 4.2x and have a 14" member.

IowaHawkeyeChief 07-18-2023 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17020572)
I have already seen people saying the NFL needs to fix this or they are gonna have a future problem where no one wants to play RB because they know they don't get paid, so top athletes coming up from high school will avoid that position.
T hi s will limit the number of skilled backs and make them more valuable. The free market will work.

wazu 07-18-2023 09:29 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 of the last 6 times a team paid a RB, they regretted it &amp; moved on:<br><br>Zeke: $90M, cut during deal<br>CMC: $64M, traded during deal<br>Cook: $63M, cut during deal<br>Gurley: $58M, cut during deal<br>Bell: $53M, cut during deal<br><br>the 6th is Alvin Kamara, who could follow suit, given cap hits…</p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1681306591545667586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shields68 07-18-2023 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17020593)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5 of the last 6 times a team paid a RB, they regretted it &amp; moved on:<br><br>Zeke: $90M, cut during deal<br>CMC: $64M, traded during deal<br>Cook: $63M, cut during deal<br>Gurley: $58M, cut during deal<br>Bell: $53M, cut during deal<br><br>the 6th is Alvin Kamara, who could follow suit, given cap hits…</p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1681306591545667586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Old RB's are a poor investment.

ThaVirus 07-18-2023 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17020569)
Absolutely, but atleast with those guys there's a chance to get some value for your money.
Chubb’s doing OK on his second contract.

Funny that the Brownies were smart enough to opt for a 3-year deal for Chubb then turned around and gave Watson that abomination of a contract.

rfaulk34 07-18-2023 09:51 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Details: <br>— Joe Mixon took a $4.39M pay cut this year and a $4.67M pay cut next year.<br>— The 2023 base is $5.51M and he can make an extra $2M per year in incentives.<br>— This opens up the possibility of him sticking around next year, too. <a href="https://t.co/FUHy7Zpw6h">https://t.co/FUHy7Zpw6h</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1680212570320302091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 07-18-2023 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17020616)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Details: <br>— Joe Mixon took a $4.39M pay cut this year and a $4.67M pay cut next year.<br>— The 2023 base is $5.51M and he can make an extra $2M per year in incentives.<br>— This opens up the possibility of him sticking around next year, too. <a href="https://t.co/FUHy7Zpw6h">https://t.co/FUHy7Zpw6h</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1680212570320302091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Was glad to see this. Seems like he's lost a step or two, so not great for the Bengals, but I do still need him to grind out some production for my dynasty team.


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