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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-22-2024 01:40 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ed Oliver &amp; DaQuan Jones were held to 0 pressures on 38 combined pass rushes, Oliver&#39;s first game without a pressure since Week 13, 2021.<br><br>Jones was double teamed on 12 of 17 pass rushes (70.6%), while Oliver had 10 one-on-one matchups vs Joe Thuney.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCvsBUF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KCvsBUF</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZECLd8KyHf">pic.twitter.com/ZECLd8KyHf</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1749267313520791751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fishels 01-22-2024 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17355070)
We need a flawless game on both sides of the ball along with special teams.

I will be stunned to make the Super Bowl.

Mahomes motivation is magical.

This. I’m pretty much just happy to be here after such a bad year at WR.

If they actually win it all it would be insanity

New World Order 01-22-2024 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17356051)
This. I’m pretty much just happy to be here after such a bad year at WR.

If they actually win it all it would be insanity

This is supposed to be a down year for us…

Fishels 01-22-2024 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17356001)
I wasn't worried much about the other injuries, but this one SUCKS.

Gonna be noticeable.

SB 55 PTSD flashbacks

Please be ok

DRM08 01-22-2024 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17356051)
This. I’m pretty much just happy to be here after such a bad year at WR.

If they actually win it all it would be insanity

Agreed, very happy to see them make the Final Four of the whole league. It seemed like they would have a very tough time going anywhere in the Playoffs after that Christmas Day game where the offense gained negative yardage in the first quarter and gave 2 turnover touchdowns to the Raiders. It has been a remarkable improvement from that low point in a very short period of time.

Hammock Parties 01-22-2024 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17356051)
This. I’m pretty much just happy to be here after such a bad year at WR.

If they actually win it all it would be insanity

Feeling the same.

If the Ravens are a team of destiny, no shame in losing.

We had a fun year making Tyreek and Josh bend the knee, and some years that will have to be enough.

In the end we will not embarrass ourselves.

TwistedChief 01-22-2024 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17355603)
They really made the Lions game the night game over us?

90pct sure they rotate the timing of the AFCCGs every season.

We were the late game last year, the early one the year prior, etc etc.

TwistedChief 01-22-2024 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17356035)
the thuney thing is very worrisome, because baltimore's DTs are their best pass rushers

Saw Thuney after the game taking pics with his family in the stands. You would’ve never known there was any sort of injury at all, if that counts for anything.

Sassy Squatch 01-22-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17356099)
90pct sure they rotate the timing of the AFCCGs every season.

We were the late game last year, the early one the year prior, etc etc.

Yeah, this is the case.

Jamie 01-22-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17354546)
I want a Chiefs/Lions SB.

Same, everybody would be rooting for the Lions so hard, the butthurt when we beat them would be hilarious.

duncan_idaho 01-22-2024 05:30 AM

The Ravens are a different level of test.

DeCosta did a great job filling out their roster this year. The defense is good at every level and there isn’t a true weak spot.

Their corners aren’t excellent/awesome, but they’re good. Even if Humphrey is out.

Kansas City is going to have to play a great game to get this one. Defensively, I think Spagnuolo and company can contain and hold down the Baltimore offense. Moving the ball is going to require a great gameplan and good protection that lets Playoff Patrick Mahomes do his thing.

KC can win, but I will have no where close to the confidence I had going into yesterday.

Coochie liquor 01-22-2024 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17355988)
As soon as I saw that I felt deep in my plums greatness was coming tonight.

He missed two throws.

Pity he didn't hit those for TDs or you're looking at 19/23 for 245ish yards and 4 TDs ROFL

Mahomes is locked in. Nothing is phasing him.

While I partially agree, we’ve just played 2 extremely beat up defenses missing lots of key players. Won’t be the case Sunday.

FringeNC 01-22-2024 06:59 AM

Baltimore will use the same playbook Cinci did last month and Buffalo did yesterday. Run the ball, short throws, lots of QB runs. Try to keep the chains moving. Whether that's successful or not really depends on offense's ability to score. We will need WR contributions from more than just Rice again.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17355952)
I'm struggling to gin up the hatred for these guys that I could for Buffalo or even Miami.

And there are only so many ways to call Lamar Jackson stupid.

This week is gonna be boring.

7 Nation Army....You are welcome

SHOWTIME 01-22-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17356126)
While I partially agree, we’ve just played 2 extremely beat up defenses missing lots of key players. Won’t be the case Sunday.

I'm not saying the Chiefs are guaranteed to win, but the Ravens struggled in the first half against an above average Texans team. Were Ravens sleepwalking through the first two quarters and then they finally woke up? Maybe. Or maybe it was the Texans who who were just in over their heads.

I think our D can hang with the Ravens. Just worried about them running all over us with Lamar and Edwards. Obviously Harbaugh saw last night's game and will try and copy what Buffalo did.

George Liquor 01-22-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 17355426)
Just saw +3. I’ll take it.

Opened at +3.5 but dropped to 3 the next time i checked DK at least

kccrow 01-22-2024 07:15 AM

Probably a good game to activate Buggs and hopefully get Nnadi back.

Would mind seeing KC go big sometimes with Omenihu, Pennel, Buggs, and Jones across the front to help shut down that run game.

Best22 01-22-2024 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17356099)
90pct sure they rotate the timing of the AFCCGs every season.

We were the late game last year, the early one the year prior, etc etc.

Exactly, it’s a rotation

The AFCCG will be at night next year

Coochie liquor 01-22-2024 07:32 AM

What worries me more than the past 2 games is the Ravens have the players to run the defense that LV ran against us. And it was extremely frustrating for Patrick. Fins and Bills couldn’t run that because they were missing so many starters. But I fully expect their DC to look at that Faders game as the best way to contain our offense. It worked unbelievably well for the Fade. 5-2-4, spy Mahomes, double Kelce. The only saving grace is MVS looked competent last night. Raiders basically let him run free because they weren’t worried about him at all. But last night he made some incredibly tough catches. If we can get that MVS for the next 2 games, we should win another ring!

FringeNC 01-22-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17356215)
What worries me more than the past 2 games is the Ravens have the players to run the defense that LV ran against us. And it was extremely frustrating for Patrick. Fins and Bills couldn’t run that because they were missing so many starters. But I fully expect their DC to look at that Faders game as the best way to contain our offense. It worked unbelievably well for the Fade. 5-2-4, spy Mahomes, double Kelce. The only saving grace is MVS looked competent last night. Raiders basically let him run free because they weren’t worried about him at all. But last night he made some incredibly tough catches. If we can get that MVS for the next 2 games, we should win another ring!

Donovan Smith is a much better pass blocker than Wanya Morris. The line play blew up the Raiders game.

Wallcrawler 01-22-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17356126)
While I partially agree, we’ve just played 2 extremely beat up defenses missing lots of key players. Won’t be the case Sunday.

We also played a team with a pretty good quarterback.

Won't be the case Sunday.

Wallcrawler 01-22-2024 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17356173)
I'm not saying the Chiefs are guaranteed to win, but the Ravens struggled in the first half against an above average Texans team. Were Ravens sleepwalking through the first two quarters and then they finally woke up? Maybe. Or maybe it was the Texans who who were just in over their heads.

I think our D can hang with the Ravens. Just worried about them running all over us with Lamar and Edwards. Obviously Harbaugh saw last night's game and will try and copy what Buffalo did.

Bolton and Andy were basically saying we were getting out shit pushed in due to poor technique. Too much wrestling and not separating, and too much hitting high instead of "killing the engine".

Let's hope that's all it is, because if we take the run out of the equation, Lamar has not shown that he's a guy to bring you back when everyone in the world knows it's a pass coming.

DRM08 01-22-2024 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17356215)
What worries me more than the past 2 games is the Ravens have the players to run the defense that LV ran against us. And it was extremely frustrating for Patrick. Fins and Bills couldn’t run that because they were missing so many starters. But I fully expect their DC to look at that Faders game as the best way to contain our offense. It worked unbelievably well for the Fade. 5-2-4, spy Mahomes, double Kelce. The only saving grace is MVS looked competent last night. Raiders basically let him run free because they weren’t worried about him at all. But last night he made some incredibly tough catches. If we can get that MVS for the next 2 games, we should win another ring!

Nobody on Offense showed up ready to play in that Christmas game. Maybe they spent too much time partying with family instead of preparing for the game. The OL was bad, which trickled down to everything else. Andy’s playcalling was questionable too. He needs to stop the damn trick plays. Once again last night they had a serious mistake on a trick play. Thankfully Hardman’s lost fumble did not kill their chances of winning the game.

wachashi 01-22-2024 07:43 AM

It would be fantastic if we could recover a fumble. Our defense has been incredibly unlucky in the turnover department.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2024 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17356215)
What worries me more than the past 2 games is the Ravens have the players to run the defense that LV ran against us. And it was extremely frustrating for Patrick. Fins and Bills couldn’t run that because they were missing so many starters. But I fully expect their DC to look at that Faders game as the best way to contain our offense. It worked unbelievably well for the Fade. 5-2-4, spy Mahomes, double Kelce. The only saving grace is MVS looked competent last night. Raiders basically let him run free because they weren’t worried about him at all. But last night he made some incredibly tough catches. If we can get that MVS for the next 2 games, we should win another ring!

Donovan Smith is obviously a huge stud. Look how good the line looks when he plays

scho63 01-22-2024 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17356099)
90pct sure they rotate the timing of the AFCCGs every season.

We were the late game last year, the early one the year prior, etc etc.

The fact it's being hosted in Baltimore and San Fran made it easy to chose which would be early and late games. EST vs PST

scho63 01-22-2024 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356242)
It would be fantastic if we could recover a fumble. Our defense has been incredibly unlucky in the turnover department.

Very true, but in fairness to our D, did you see how many missed INTs, missed fumbles and drops other teams had this weekend?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2024 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17356252)
The fact it's being hosted in Baltimore and San Fran made it easy to chose which would be early and late games. EST vs PST

It's all pre determined. Next year the AFCC will be the later game. Team locations do not matter. This was decided long ago.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17356239)
Bolton and Andy were basically saying we were getting out shit pushed in due to poor technique. Too much wrestling and not separating, and too much hitting high instead of "killing the engine".

Let's hope that's all it is, because if we take the run out of the equation, Lamar has not shown that he's a guy to bring you back when everyone in the world knows it's a pass coming.

I was just saying this past week how it seemed like the Chiefs had gotten pretty good at containing the running QBs, but damn they struggled keeping Alllen in front of them for 3 quarters... they looked like the Texans being driven up field 10 yards and giving Allen a huge gaping hole in the middle of the field.

Figure out that shit and I don't care if the Ravens run for 150 yards... just don't give up huge chunks of scrambling yards on obvious passing downs to keep drives alive.

wachashi 01-22-2024 08:16 AM

Baltimore scoring last 5 games (not counting the game against Pitt in which they rested starters):

Rams: 37
@ Jaguars: 23
@ 49ers: 33
Dolphins: 56
Texans: 34

SHOWTIME 01-22-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356287)
Baltimore scoring last 5 games (not counting the game against Pitt in which they rested starters):

Rams: 37
@ Jaguars: 23
@ 49ers: 33
Dolphins: 56
Texans: 34

Spags has his work cut out for him, that's for sure. Funny thing is they have no one in their receiving corps that absolutely scares you. Miami had Hill and Waddle and Buffalo had Diggs. Baltimore has Flowers and Likely, who are good but not great weapons. If Andrews comes back that could be a huge problem.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2024 08:20 AM

I’ll get more into it as the week goes on, but early gut feel is this one is lower scoring than last night. More like 20-17.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 08:21 AM

A couple Ravens fans signed up... hopefully they aren't butt****ing morons like the guy last week.

ChiTown 01-22-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17356294)
Spags has his work cut out for him, that's for sure. Funny thing is they have no one in their receiving corps that absolutely scares you. Miami had Hill and Waddle and Buffalo had Diggs. Baltimore has Flowers and Likely, who are good but not great weapons. If Andrews comes back that could be a huge problem.

Andrews is supposed to be back this week. Their O will be our biggest test yet, which means our O will probably have to play their best game of the season to win. I’m pumped!

wachashi 01-22-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17356302)
I’ll get more into it as the week goes on, but early gut feel is this one is lower scoring than last night. More like 20-17.

O/U is at 44.5

Implied score of 24-21 Ravens.

Rausch 01-22-2024 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17356305)
Andrews is supposed to be back this week. Their O will be our biggest test yet, which means our O will probably have to play their best game of the season to win. I’m pumped!

The 3Peat is inevitable.

Mahomes is inevitable.

We need to get healthy and just do what we do...

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2024 08:26 AM

This isn’t being said just bc we are playing them now - I told friends last week that Andrews coming back could do more harm than good.

Lamar has always forced the ball to him and it causes inefficiency. Him spreading the ball around since his injury has helped their team.

In58men 01-22-2024 08:26 AM

We definitely could use Willie Gay in this match up. Hopefully he didn’t hurt his neck more.

ChiTown 01-22-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17356317)
We definitely could use Willie Gay in this match up. Hopefully he didn’t hurt his neck more.

He tweeted last night that he’ll be ready to play Sunday…FWIW

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2024 08:28 AM

I think we are gonna have a hell of a time scoring points Sunday. Getting to 24 will be extremely tough.

But, I trust our defense to do way better than they did early last night. Spags has always done well against Lamar. I know it’s a different team, but it’s an eye test thing for me. Josh Allen played about as good as you could for the first three quarters and they ran the ball as good as you can. Are we gonna allow that again?

I see a 3-4 point differential and as for who wins, we’ll see. Mahomes and Andy will have us in it.

wachashi 01-22-2024 08:29 AM

Texans are not a blitzing team, but tested Lamar a few times with it...and he mostly failed.

Spags will be in his bag of pressure packages for this one, I think.

Red Dawg 01-22-2024 08:30 AM

We can beat them. We just slayed who everyone thought was the dragon. We can beat anyone when we catch the ball, don't turn it over and run the ball well.

RavensMania 01-22-2024 08:30 AM

Total respect here from a Ravens Fan. Good luck on Sunday and lets hope we can escape the game without any injuries.

Mr. Plow 01-22-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17356303)
A couple Ravens fans signed up... hopefully they aren't butt****ing morons like the guy last week.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/aEvau...giphy.gif&ct=g

RavensMania 01-22-2024 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356325)
Texans are not a blitzing team, but tested Lamar a few times with it...and he mostly failed.

Spags will be in his bag of pressure packages for this one, I think.

In the first half we weren't getting the ball out, mostly looking downfield. We adjusted in the second half to quicker throws and running more and thats when everything started to click.

Baltimore is a tough team to keep down and is a really deep team from top to bottom. Should be a good matchup all around.

Eleazar 01-22-2024 08:34 AM

We didn't do a great job of bottling Allen up last night. Both Allen and Jackson, you keep them in the pocket and they won't beat you with their arm. Easier said than done though.

Things are set up for it to be the Ravens' year, they're loaded and the Chiefs are not as good as in years past, but we'll see what happens. Nothing would really surprise.

RavensMania 01-22-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17356316)
This isn’t being said just bc we are playing them now - I told friends last week that Andrews coming back could do more harm than good.

Lamar has always forced the ball to him and it causes inefficiency. Him spreading the ball around since his injury has helped their team.

That hasn't been the case this season as Zay Flowers had more targets than Andrews did when he went down. Did the offense open up more when Andrews went down. Yes, but it had to.

We tend to be conservative with players coming back from injury and typically they don't get on the field for a full workload. Plus with Andrews being a type 1 diabetic, its been incredible that he is back at practice in full at this point.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17356341)
That hasn't been the case this season as Zay Flowers had more targets than Andrews did when he went down. Did the offense open up more when Andrews went down. Yes, but it had to.

We tend to be conservative with players coming back from injury and typically they don't get on the field for a full workload. Plus with Andrews being a type 1 diabetic, its been incredible that he is back at practice in full at this point.

Good info. I still would be sorta surprised if he played, or at least enough to notice him. Probably more of a Super Bowl outlook.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17356333)
In the first half we weren't getting the ball out, mostly looking downfield. We adjusted in the second half to quicker throws and running more and thats when everything started to click.

Baltimore is a tough team to keep down and is a really deep team from top to bottom. Should be a good matchup all around.

I haven't watched them all year, except for the Texans shitting down their leg the other day.... the few games they have struggled on defense (seemingly, on just the scores), what was the struggle? Injuries, just one of those games, or anything in particular exploited?

I had no doubts last night would be a dog fight and expect another one this week.

RavensMania 01-22-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17356046)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ed Oliver &amp; DaQuan Jones were held to 0 pressures on 38 combined pass rushes, Oliver&#39;s first game without a pressure since Week 13, 2021.<br><br>Jones was double teamed on 12 of 17 pass rushes (70.6%), while Oliver had 10 one-on-one matchups vs Joe Thuney.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCvsBUF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KCvsBUF</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZECLd8KyHf">pic.twitter.com/ZECLd8KyHf</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1749267313520791751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Really like Thuney as a player. What quarter did he get injured?

Eleazar 01-22-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17356333)
In the first half we weren't getting the ball out, mostly looking downfield. We adjusted in the second half to quicker throws and running more and thats when everything started to click.

Baltimore is a tough team to keep down and is a really deep team from top to bottom. Should be a good matchup all around.

Glad you stopped by - we play rough here, but road fans are welcome and if you're respectful it's a fun place.

Kman34 01-22-2024 08:46 AM

Drue may be a key to this game.. He played well in the second half.. We seemed to play the run better in the 4th quarter..
As for their defense.. We’ve seen Patrick and Andy put clown shoes on top defenses before.. If we can score 24-27 points again I think we will have a chance..

wachashi 01-22-2024 08:46 AM

Is Vegas undervaluing Playoff Mahomes?

Last four playoff games:

- Bengals at Chiefs (-1.5): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs
- Eagles (-1.5) vs Chiefs: Final Score: 38-35 Chiefs
- Dolphins at Chiefs (-4.5): Final Score: 26-7 Chiefs
- Chiefs at Bills (-3): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs

Gary Cooper 01-22-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17356252)
The fact it's being hosted in Baltimore and San Fran made it easy to chose which would be early and late games. EST vs PST

No, it's rotated every year regardless of West Coast or East Coast.

wachashi 01-22-2024 09:05 AM

With Thuney out, our offensive line will have their hands full with DT Justin Madubuike. He's had a breakout year with 13 sacks on the season.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356364)
Is Vegas undervaluing Playoff Mahomes?

Last four playoff games:

- Bengals at Chiefs (-1.5): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs
- Eagles (-1.5) vs Chiefs: Final Score: 38-35 Chiefs
- Dolphins at Chiefs (-4.5): Final Score: 26-7 Chiefs
- Chiefs at Bills (-3): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs

It's my understanding those are based on public perception, not what Vegas thinks... or in other words, if the Chiefs had been favored by 2.5 last night, all the money would have been on the Bills due to public perception, so the line is set to offset that some.

And yeah, the public will always undervalue due to media bullshit and overvaluing the regular season... and frankly, their bias against wanting the same teams to win every year.

stevieray 01-22-2024 09:09 AM

The pressure is on the Ravens.

I like it.

duncan_idaho 01-22-2024 09:09 AM

Chiefs will have to bring their A game, for sure.

Hamilton is a great matchup against Kelce. The Ravens have 2 great LB who can run and do everything. Really lined up well on D to limit KC.

I think KC's defense matches up pretty well against Baltimore, with the ability to play McDuffie on Flowers and Sneed on Beckham, plus Spagnuolo usually having a good plan that slows Jackson down.

Looking forward to it, for sure. With a great deal more nervousness than Buffalo.

Rausch 01-22-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356364)
Is Vegas undervaluing Playoff Mahomes?

Last four playoff games:

- Bengals at Chiefs (-1.5): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs
- Eagles (-1.5) vs Chiefs: Final Score: 38-35 Chiefs
- Dolphins at Chiefs (-4.5): Final Score: 26-7 Chiefs
- Chiefs at Bills (-3): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs

If Vegas gives you Mahomes and points you take it. Every time.

I believe they said Mahomes is 10-1 vs the spread as a dog.

ALL HE DOES IS PLAY ON THE SHIP!

Rausch 01-22-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17356424)

I think KC's defense matches up pretty well against Baltimore, with the ability to play McDuffie on Flowers and Sneed on Beckham, plus Spagnuolo usually having a good plan that slows Jackson down.

Looking forward to it, for sure. With a great deal more nervousness than Buffalo.

KC's D matches up great with the Ravens offense. The only thing that worries me is not having Gay to spy Jackson. That could become an issue on 3rd downs.

I think the Chiefs offense actually has the more difficult hill to climb but we have playoff Mahomes so, meh, we're good...

ChiTown 01-22-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17356424)
Chiefs will have to bring their A game, for sure.

Hamilton is a great matchup against Kelce. The Ravens have 2 great LB who can run and do everything. Really lined up well on D to limit KC.

I think KC's defense matches up pretty well against Baltimore, with the ability to play McDuffie on Flowers and Sneed on Beckham, plus Spagnuolo usually having a good plan that slows Jackson down.

Looking forward to it, for sure. With a great deal more nervousness than Buffalo.

It’s weird. I’m not nervous about this game because I feel like we’re playing with house money at this point. We got over the “BUH, BUH, BUH PATRICK MAHOMES HAS NEVER PLAYED AND WON A TRUE ROAD GAME!!!!!” bs. No one, other than Chiefs fans, had the Chiefs playing in the AFC CG before the Playoffs started. I think we are going to play loose and let Pat do his thing on O. I also have full confidence that Spags will have a great game plan set up for the D. This is a sit back and enjoy the moment game for me :)

Bearcat 01-22-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17356437)
It’s weird. I’m not nervous about this game because I feel like we’re playing with house money at this point. We got over the “BUH, BUH, BUH PATRICK MAHOMES HAS NEVER PLAYED AND WON A TRUE ROAD GAME!!!!!” bs. No one, other than Chiefs fans, had the Chiefs playing in the AFC CG before the Playoffs started. I think we are going to play loose and let Pat do his thing on O. I also have full confidence that Spags will have a great game plan set up for the D. This is a sit back and enjoy the moment game for me :)

Yeah, part of me says there's now Jackson, Purdy, and Goff, so it would suck a little not to repeat at this point with this defense and clearly the best QB remaining... but, obviously every team could say that right now.

It's the Ravens' best shot not needing to play multiples of Mahomes/Allen/Burrow this year (and Stroud as a rookie on that sad team around him). It's the 49ers' best shot in a terribly weak NFC, it's the Lions' best shot in 100 years only needing to beat 3 10+ win teams all season.

But yeah, at worst Mahomes would be 3-3 in AFCCGs or potentially 2-2 in Super Bowls, which is to be expected at that level, and they kept the AFCCG streak alive and beat their biggest rival at their place in another all time classic..... life is good.

wachashi 01-22-2024 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17356424)

Hamilton is a great matchup against Kelce. The Ravens have 2 great LB who can run and do everything. Really lined up well on D to limit KC.

I'm not sure what matchup against this Ravens defense we would hope to exploit. They are very tough in the middle of the field with Hamilton and those linebackers. We will have to test the boundaries a bit more.

Calcountry 01-22-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17354795)
Home field is usually 3 points, right?

Yes

Calcountry 01-22-2024 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17355051)
Can't believe we will now be in our 6th straight AFCCG. Just nuts and never thought I would see this ever.

I remember how giddy I felt when Joe Montana took us to the first one in my lifetime

Calcountry 01-22-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17355070)
We need a flawless game on both sides of the ball along with special teams.

I will be stunned to make the Super Bowl.

Mahomes motivation is magical.

For sure we cannot afford any more cute ass plays that get blown up

Gravedigger 01-22-2024 09:30 AM

Yep line up and beat them at their own game.

St. Patty's Fire 01-22-2024 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17356459)
Yeah, part of me says there's now Jackson, Purdy, and Goff, so it would suck a little not to repeat at this point with this defense and clearly the best QB remaining... but, obviously every team could say that right now.

It's the Ravens' best shot not needing to play multiples of Mahomes/Allen/Burrow this year (and Stroud as a rookie on that sad team around him). It's the 49ers' best shot in a terribly weak NFC, it's the Lions' best shot in 100 years only needing to beat 3 10+ win teams all season.

But yeah, at worst Mahomes would be 3-3 in AFCCGs or potentially 2-2 in Super Bowls, which is to be expected at that level, and they kept the AFCCG streak alive and beat their biggest rival at their place in another all time classic..... life is good.

it certainly feels like whoever wins this one is gonna win the super bowl, so it kinda takes “house money” away for me. i want back to back god damn it

Calcountry 01-22-2024 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17355300)
Yep definitely our toughest game by far. Ravens are a legit team and have blown out pretty much all the good teams in the NFL this year.

It will take more than a missed field goal to squeak this one out. We will need to not fumble the ball out of the end zone at the pylon actually get seven points when we have our foot on their neck. Basically if we get a break, if we’re fortunate enough to get one, we need to capitalize on it not let them get off the mat.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2024 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17355141)
Did Thuney miss any plays? Never heard he was hurt until after the game.

He got hurt on the Pacheco TD run. I rewatched the game and Allegretti held his own pretty well. That's why most of us didn't notice even though it was ignored by the telecast.

Bearcat 01-22-2024 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry (Post 17356493)
It will take more than a missed field goal to squeak this one out. We will need to not fumble the ball out of the end zone at the pylon actually get seven points when we have our foot on their neck. Basically if we get a break, if we’re fortunate enough to get one, we need to capitalize on it not let them get off the mat.

We did all think that about last night's game, too. :shrug:

I get what you're saying though... Hardman's fumble felt much like Mahomes' fumble in the AFCCG last year and somehow neither came back to bite them.

They definitely made it harder on themselves last night and you can't always count on a razor thin margin of error going your way.

I also don’t have as much confidence in the Ravens' offense capitalizing on mistakes, but of course their defense will be much tougher than the 9 yards per play we saw most of last night.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17355603)
They really made the Lions game the night game over us?

West Coast game... makes sense

George Liquor 01-22-2024 09:48 AM

No attempt for a Mecole Hardman redemption arc please. That's all i ask.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2024 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17356028)
Thuney got hurt on the Pacheco touchdown in the 4th quarter I believe. Allegretti proceeded to finish the game. Hoping for the best but Nick may be the guy going forward. That hurts a lot.

missed this earlier...

George Liquor 01-22-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356364)
Is Vegas undervaluing Playoff Mahomes?

Last four playoff games:

- Bengals at Chiefs (-1.5): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs
- Eagles (-1.5) vs Chiefs: Final Score: 38-35 Chiefs
- Dolphins at Chiefs (-4.5): Final Score: 26-7 Chiefs
- Chiefs at Bills (-3): Final Score: 27-24 Chiefs

I rarely every bet on the Chiefs until the playoffs. Any time i can get them + money on the ML is game on.

digger 01-22-2024 09:49 AM

Playoff Patrick...

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 17356242)
It would be fantastic if we could recover a fumble. Our defense has been incredibly unlucky in the turnover department.

It's time for some of these loose balls, tips, and drops go the other way... It could be Sunday.

wachashi 01-22-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17356420)
It's my understanding those are based on public perception, not what Vegas thinks... or in other words, if the Chiefs had been favored by 2.5 last night, all the money would have been on the Bills due to public perception, so the line is set to offset that some.

And yeah, the public will always undervalue due to media bullshit and overvaluing the regular season... and frankly, their bias against wanting the same teams to win every year.

The opening line is essentially what Vegas thinks (oddsmakers is the better term). Some of the most sophisticated computer models in the world + human intuition factoring in injuries and other current conditions. Public money doesn't typically cause the line to move outside of extremely popular events (the Super Bowl being one).

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-22-2024 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17356333)
In the first half we weren't getting the ball out, mostly looking downfield. We adjusted in the second half to quicker throws and running more and thats when everything started to click.

Baltimore is a tough team to keep down and is a really deep team from top to bottom. Should be a good matchup all around.

Can't chase the read back... Texans were horribly undisciplined in not setting the edge and letting Lamar outside on the read option. I don't think Spags D is that undisciplined. Our only chance is to keep Lamar contained and limit his running. We will need some Raven mistakes and if we can get a lead, the pressure will mount on the Ravens. No one is going to pick us this week, but Chiefs fans, and probably shouldn't. That tends to be when we play the best.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-22-2024 10:02 AM

Thuney and Edwards likely missing stinks… but let’s not forget, this team won the AFCCG last year without any WRs outside of MVS and Patrick couldn’t run.


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