It's one of those things that happens under pressure. Muscle memory is a bitch.

Romo also said we made a mistake deferring the kickoff...

I think it's hilarious he's had to be in person broadcasting our run as he clearly roots against us....and now he'll have to watch and commentate us winning another Lombardi.

And the 49ers are the same way. They want to get out to that lead and control the game script.

For what it's worth, on today's episode of Schein on Sports, Phil Simms praised Mahomes's ability to manage the game in the second half, calling it deliberate and difficult to do and noting that Mahomes was making sure to burn clock and avoid moderate risk and higher throws because they weren't in the Chiefs interest.
The deal with Mahomes is that everyone knows that he can make whatever throw he needs to make. He's not a traditional game-manager in the way that term is used derisively. Even when he's playing "safe" he is putting pressure on opponents and forcing errors from them.

The one illegal contact/hold they say they missed on Likely was the right call as it happened before Lamar threw it and he was outside of the pocket which negates holding or illegal contact.

Which is also funny because anyone who isn't a Chiefs fan thinks he roots for the Chiefs and can't stop sucking off Mahomes.

How can you both love and hate the same team, what?

Not sure what show it is but Simms explaining to Florio Mahomes' greatness was beautiful to watch. Florio looked like he was at a funeral.

Yeah it was not a great gameplan. The game manager part is coming from the sidelines not form Pat. Sure Pat executes it but we were quite fortunate Flowers fumbles on the goal line. There is no doubt in my mind that if we played as aggressive in the first half we score 2 TD in second half. It isnt about the amount of the points its about putting the game away so that if something flukey or unlucky does happen you still win the game. They better be ready to score against SF.

I was worried when I saw Bwillie post that he would agree with me.

Nope - had to make sure he got in here to say something stupid again.

Fantastic - bwillie disagreeing with me tells me I'm on the right track.

I was yelling for that to be a safety. It was really, really obvious.

But here's a twist. As of 2023, that's a personal foul. Is a personal foul in the end zone a safety? I'm not sure.

Also, I think it was clearly a leg whip and not a trip. The running back threw his leg up, per this clip: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment..._on_this_play/

Now, it seems like the rules don't really distinguish between a trip and a leg whip. I thought there used to be a difference. But regardless of that, as a result of #43's intentional leg whip, Chris Jones was injured, but by the grace of the benevolent football gods it was not serious and he was able to come back into the game. But per the rules, if the leg whip was done with the intent to injure a player, the offender can be ejected from the game. That skanky pile of feces with the #43 jersey clearly could have attempted to block Chris, but he instead elected to throw his leg into Chris's knee/thigh. He should have been ejected, and he should face a fine this week as well. Dirty cheater.

BWillie is always wrong except that hes almost never wrong!

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I'm satisfied with the penalty of them losing the game.
About as strict as you can get...

LOL Romo has done how many Chiefs games at this point? We always defer so he is a proven dumbass. He's the guy that dropped the snap on a FG and he cost his team the game. That's who he is.

I'm twelve pages late but this is exactly what I saw too. Start of the 3rd quarter, only thought in my mind was...just don't let them back in the game with a turnover.

I had zero doubt that we would see first half offense if we needed to open it up again. Pat and kelce were on fire and those windows were tight. We weren't scheming guys wide open like in Buffalo. We had to be aggressive to get that lead. The plan was to put the pressure on Baltimore and watch them crumble. It worked.

Maybe you should apply for a coaching position?


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Everyone knew it, most commented on it before the game, and the coaches implemented it. It was that ****ing obvious. Even our dumb asses saw the writing on the wall.

Lamar defenders just can't come to accept it for some reason...

This game was not just about Mahomes managing the second half but also about the team playing hardnosed and physical. The AFCN always thought they were special with their street fight style.

Teams like KC were seen as finesse, speedy and relying too much on scheme. The Ravens thought they were bullying such a team with all the pre-game antics and in-game chirpiness. Look who is planning for Cancun.

That end zone pick was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen in the playoffs. Sometimes guys get baited or the scheme is just excellent. Not this time, that was just ****ing double coverage with a guy reading the routes. When he released it, it was obvious it was triple coverage.

He biffed that one in a giant way. That one is inexcusable.

I like it when Mahomes is laser focused on avoiding turnovers. He has been very sharp in all 3 Playoff games. Hopefully he can do it again in the Super Bowl.

I mean, it's not because Chiefs. It's because Reid. Hindsight being 50/50 we can all celebrate because we won, but it's not a fluke that he was 4-3 (now 5-3) in playoff games that his teams led by 10+ at the half. I still think they throttled WAAAAYYYYY too early and it took some egregiously stupid football by the Ravens to help secure the win.

12 pages? Change your post per page dude, it's not 2003 anymore.

We probably did. You want to score first against Baltimore to force them to throw more often. We saw how shitty that offense is in the 2nd half when they are playing behind.

Generally you want to defer to make sure you get ball first in second half. Analytics generally say there is a slight advantage in doing that. Its just that the Ravens are exponentially better playing from a lead than behind that it is probably a wash at best.

Is there anything you think you don’t know better than our coaching staff?


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On today's Pro Football Talk, Phil's son Chris Simms talked to Mike Florio about how Mahomes is peaking physically and mentally and they both told the haters that they better get used to Mahomes being around! https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/...cally-mentally

Similar to the Jordan Love throw against the Niners last week.

Just sharing my opinion. We should all share our opinions on this great football message board.

Mahomes doesn't manage the game he owns it.

Wut?

Packers might have Brett Favre 2.0 after watching the very careful Aaron Rodgers who refused to put the ball in harm’s way for 15 years. Welcome back to the 1990’s roller coaster, Green Bay. Lol

Odd they only chose to score 3 then.

Overconfidence?...

I genuinely think he just threw it when Likely put his hand up signaling he got behind the defense, completely ignoring the coverage. Theres no other explanation i can think of for why he'd throw it there. And on top of that, it was just a horrible ball. Uncatchable, behind him, right into triple coverage. Just a horrible decision.

Horrible decision, horrible throw, and horrible timing on 2nd down. If it was 4th down with the game on the line, it would be more understandable.

Exactly my point earlier. It took incredibly stupid mistakes to hold that lead. Many of us sat in person and watched them **** around and lose to Cincinnati in the AFCC so ya I wanted to see the offenses actually do something to feel comfortable and 5 straight punts wasn't it...

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I didn't bring it up. I should be allowed to defend myself from this blasphemy!

GOOOO CHIEEEFFFS

I thought it was extreme, too, but it hasn't really happened in the Mahomes era that I recall... they completely ****ed up the 2021 AFCCG of course, but don't remember it being RRRP for two quarters.

The Ravens really had nothing going on offensively besides fluke shit and broken plays.

Flowers actually hit Sneed with the ball.

He took exception to Sneed not letting go of his leg fast enough to suit him. He shoved Sneed's head to the ground, hit him with the ball, then stood over him taunting.

Any one of those actions could have drawn a penalty. All three in a row against a guy still laying on his back?

Obviously the refs were biased against poor poor Baltimore. (Could be a song in there somewhere. I could get that to Travis to pass along.)

anybody got that clip of Mahomes holding himself up with one arm and then flipping, rolling to the other one?

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It's a call back to KCChiefsfan88 who used that shit genuinely.

This was a great game plan vs Lamar. We better keep the pressure on the 9ers. They proved they can come back.

I'm surprised people really think Mahomes didn't want to score any more points. Of course they did. Why in the world would they want to be so conservative and put their completely gassed defense back on the field time and time again, only to get lucky and bailed out by the punch out and taunting penalty?

The fact is Andy and Nagy called a poor second half game. Baltimore took away the first half strengths and KC couldn't adjust.

You know we won the game, right? And that Patrick himself said that he played more conservative because they trusted the D to take care of business?

When I saw that play happen I immediately thought back to his training and that no normal player could do that.

Friggen lunatic got up and tried to keep going...

Dude's different.

It was really the drives where they were pinned back that they just figured it was gonna be tough sledding.

After teh fumble they moved down the field, Pat went play action on 1 and 10 and got sacked and it derailed it. THen he made a poor throw to Gray.

Yeah, at this point I have no clue why anybody that can afford him isn’t using this dude.

Oh here we go, another Madden XBox Champion????


The fact is Andy knew exactly WTF he was doing and it worked. Meanwhile you're crying because Andy didn't Madden or something like that I am sure.

Unpossible...he like a 99.999999 in Madden or whatever...you must throw the bombs!!!

Another game where there was TD taken off the board because of a penalty. A great play call and a great catch and run by Rice.

Patrick was definitely being cautious with his throws in the 2nd half. He even took some sacks instead of forcing the ball into coverage at times. He was doing everything possible to avoid turnovers, which were a major problem for him during the regular season.

I also think Andy's playcalling was more conservative in some situations, like when he did back to back rushing plays on 1st and 2nd down even though the 1st down play went for zero yardage.

I might point out that there is a difference between:

1.) Being almost always right.

and

2.) Being always almost right.

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

From an article on the Athletic. Not how you expect it to go, exact opposite of last weeks game.

I like this version of Mahomes. I know people want to see the exciting plays, but more than anything I want Patrick to avoid the dumb mistakes that hurt the team. If he can fully eliminate his Brett Favre aggressiveness for the rest of his Playoff career, the Chiefs are gonna be really hard to beat every year.

Yeah I think most of us have moved on past style points, and needing to see the big bombs from the early days

If game managing/dink and dunking is the best way to win then lets roll with that... winning Super Bowls is way more exciting than a 70 yard bomb

So his 3 losses have been the Colts when we guys were dropping like flys to injury and luck recovered his own fumble on 4th down for a TD.

To the Titans when Marriotta caught his own TD pass.

To the Bengals when Pat was in la la land the 2nd half in 2021. He threw 2 picks after halftime.

If we had this defense in any of those above years, Andy would have did what we did yesterday and we win all of those games.

Thats a flag all day long... Brady/Pollard rule...

Its against Pat's nature to not go full Air Raid on mofos..He played this one perfectly

As opposed to...every other year...where they are hard to beat and go to the AFCCG? When were they ever easy to beat? Just checking...:)

Lol, whatever. You incessantly believe that any call against the Chiefs is BS, and every call that goes in favor of KC is automatically a solid call. Sorry, I'm not that biased. And I hate the taunting rule with a passion. 99% of them are BS. The one vs. Flowers last night was legit because he went out of his way to taunt Sneed.

I also hate all the weak RTP flags; the ones where the defensive player barely touches the helmet of the QB and gets flagged. Or when the QB becomes a runner and then slides at the very last second, after the DB has already begun to tackle and gets flagged "because the QB was beginning his slide." That's weak as shit, imo. If you become a runner, you accept the risk that you're going to get hit, in my book.


But don't talk to me about my takes; yours are worse in many instances. I just don't choose to call you out on the vast majority of them.

Okay, I'll respond to this one; I know there's a couple others that responded to my post, but if I quote them all, this post will be too long.


I don't recall ever saying much about holds in this game; they happen and don't get flagged all the time, and since they made that modification to how they were going to call it it's gotten worse. They missed some holding calls. They didn't really affect the game, so whatever.

The first holding call vs. Smith was not a great call, but the 2nd one was just not holding. But again, that shit happens. didn't affect the outcome really.

The headbutt I get why they called it, just probably should've been a double foul and off-setting. Travis was yapping his ass off all game and helped instigate that shit. Now, I doubt Travis planned it that way (I believe he was just really fired up), but he didn't help the situation. It's a playoff game and I would've probably just flagged both players.

The Flowers thing I've already addressed twice. It was a legit flag.

I don't know which one was Connors/Likely. As it goes to DPI, the refs effed that up several times during the game, going both ways, iirc. I mentioned in my original post that at least twice flags should've been thrown against KC. And it doesn't matter if it was a bad decision to throw into triple coverage or if you think the ball was underthrown. That's not how the rule is written. The fact is that the ball was in the air and was going to come down pretty close to the BAL WR when a KC DB (number started with a 2) ran OVER the WR well before the ball was intercepted. If that situation was reversed, and that was a KC WR that got freight trained, you'd all be screaming "DPI!!! DPI!!!! DPI!!!!"

It's basically the same thing as when MVS got run over vs. GB(?) earlier in the season. That was DPI, period. If the defender runs the **** over the receiver before the ball gets there, it's DPI, period. Who was around the play, and whether you think the ball was underthrown/overthrown/you don't think the WR could catch it, or what color their jersey was, has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The Roquan thing. Yeah, he was too aggressive, no doubt. but it's a playoff game, and extra nonsense happens. That was a flag that seemed a little much for the situation. Flag him for encroachment or whatever, but it didn't need to be a 15-yarder, again imo.


I don't know what you're talking about with the kicker thing, sorry. Must've missed that, I guess.



Bottom line, I hate it when refs insert themselves into games. Too often it leads to events that seem to steer the game. It's to the point now that every time a great/exciting play happens, we can't even just be excited about it; first we have to wait to make sure there isn't a ****ing flag. And then we have to watch the replay to see if there should've been a goddamned flag.

And then there's the dipsticks that basically just wait and hope that there is a flag, to help their team gain an advantage, which is more utter BS, imo. Flags suck. And I really wish there were a lot less of them overall.

I'll ALWAYS be in favor of less flags, and in favor of letting the teams/players decide who wins over the refs. That's just my position on it. Sorry, not sorry.

Brandon Perna is having another meltdown. Second year in a row that he insists that Mahomes is leaving KC in two years.

It's like deep down they were insecure about playoff Lamar reappearing, so they tried to bully their way into a blowout.

Hard to beat every year, but still want him to avoid turnovers in these big pressure games. He had some turnovers against Cincy, Tampa, & Niners that put the team in a very rough spot each time.

If he can pretty much eliminate those big mistakes, KC will have a strong chance in the 4th quarter of every Playoff game. It's all we can ask for. In the last 6 Playoff games, he has one turnover on a flukey play where the ball slipped out of his hand while trying to throw it against the Bengals. Other than that, he has done a great job protecting the ball the last 2 years in the Playoffs. Keep it up Patrick.

As long as they were ahead by two scores they were not going to do a damn thing to risk it.

And when the Ravens got within a play of having a whiff of tying the game, they dialed up the dagger.

Andy won plenty of games in Philly that way. Hell, with Alex.

You are reeruned...

Lol, hilarious coming from you, bud.

Don't make the big mistake, just punt, the D has it.-Chiefs in the second half.

Thing is the Chiefs were right but we've seen it go terribly wrong all too often. It gives your opponent momentum and the door can get blown open quickly. (Thankfully Sneed and Co slammed it shut.)

Who the **** is Brandon Perna?

Travis absolutely instigated on purpose, and Van Noy took the obvious bait. He was laughing his ass off after the flag got thrown. Pretty obvious the Ravens came into the game hoping to keep a bully mentality and it blew up spectacularly in their faces when the Chiefs smashed them right back and sent them reeling.

Crybaby Broncos fanboy that everyone watches on you tube. Every time the Chiefs go to the SB he makes a cryptic comment about Mahomes leaving KC, he has said it the past two seasons. Its some kind of desperate troll, but he keeps saying it like he knows something we don't.

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

You're the same dumbass that believes Mahomes should be throwing 40-50 passes per game and Richie James was going to be our breakout WR. For someone who obsesses over analytics you sure seem to get a lot of things wrong.

Or…. Your take is just wrong. :shrug:


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**** you baltimore!

The Chiefs won so therefore there is nothing they did in the game that was a mistake.