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So, if he takes a signing bonus of $25 million, similar to Aaron Donald...then his cap hit for the next 3 seasons would be roughly 28.5 million per year with a 10 million deadcap hit to cut him before year 4.
The higher his signing bonus, the lower his cap hit the next three seasons, but the more dead money we take on to cut him before the end of the deal. It'll be interesting to see the balance they strike. |
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I love Sneed. Wish he could stay. Signing him too would be crippling. He needs to be traded. It’s a complete no brainer. I’m glad we got something done with CJ as opposed to letting him walk for nothing. |
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Having an elite DB that we can trade for picks is the right move . What’s left of the secondary is already really good before making any additional moves. We drafted defense really well, but DL is the group I’d say I feel the least comfortable with replacing stars. Jones was important to keep. |
Beautiful!
I’m excited to see the structure behind this one. Don’t forget, Aaron Donald’s deal was signed when the salary cap was only 208m. Now it’s 255m. Relative to the cap, “beating Aaron Donald’s deal” would be a deal averaging almost 39m aav. Getting Jones at the AD deal in current day is fair…probably a bargain. |
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When we compare contracts with the past, it really should be looked at like a percentage of the cap. |
I bet we get juicy leaks in the next 48 hours of how Houston was ready to give him 35m and he decided to stay in KC to finish what they started.
5 in a row! |
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Defenders inked for at least the next 2-3 seasons:
Tranquill Jones Karlaftis McDuffie Williams Watson Chenal Cook Conner FAU You can probably add Bolton to that list, as they would surely franchise him after this upcoming season if they haven’t extended him yet. This draft could be ALL skill position offensive players and I’d be happy if all we came out with is a stud receiver and a good LT on rookie deals. |
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But I never thought that was a foregone conclusion. So I'm mildly surprised but not shocked to see the mega third deal contract. Anything that gets done as far as contracts and FA and drafts is all calculated gambles. Jones has absolutely wrecked shit and won games, especially in the post season when it matters. If he is at least good during the regular season and makes an impact in the post season... That can absolutely be worth the 30/year cap hit or whatever. If for whatever reason he ends up less than that...* But I'm fine winning in the post season with Mahomes being the leading rusher and the D pitching a shutouts in the fourth quarter. So LFG. *Glad I don't have BV's job. |
Yep. Heavy, heavy offense draft coming.
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Ok, but for that kind of money I want to see him cry at 3 more Super Bowls, minimum.
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-2 DL -1 DB (another Veach late round find) -2 WR -1 or 2 OL -1 RB -Maybe 1 TE Something like 5 offense, 3 defense sounds about right. |
News coming out of Bridgeport, West Virginia:
Mike Florio found naked and in fetal position at local Dollar General store. He is currently under observation and on suicide watch at a mental health facility. |
Boom!!
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I'll definitely say this. I feel like Veach went out of his way to sign Chris Jones and Jones/Katz went out of their way to get a deal done.
This is not how negotiations with Tyreek went down. Tyreek's agents were aggressive in finding a trade partner and Veach obliged. The "good-faith negotiations" aspect of this deal cannot be understated. Jones is a true Chief, an all-time great. When he retires he'll get every perk, cherry, and even a statue. |
Spend Clark’s money. Good all around.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs also believed he would get more in the initial three years if he free agency hit Monday. <a href="https://t.co/jSGJ3NpQCR">https://t.co/jSGJ3NpQCR</a></p>— Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1766676206886228041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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OMG is that real? 95 mil all guranteed? Veach caved? I am in shock.
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Man, it's just so good to see this get done. I don't know or care about the cap shit, they know what they're doing. It's just nice to see a guy we drafted who is an absolute stud stay with us till the end of his career.
Let's GO!! |
Holy shit.
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Didn't think it would happen. Good for us at least in 24. 3 peat just got closer.
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Great news! The threepeat is a mere formality now
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Chris Jones is going for the 7 peat
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Has anyone had to go to the ER because of an erection lasting more than 4 hours? It's been close to 12 hours since the news broke and I want to make sure everyone is ok.
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All the risks we talked about for weeks still exist, if the body breaks down we will look back and hate this deal
But I do think this makes more sense than letting him go now that they’ve made it a “5-year” deal where the cap hits can be lower for the first three years that he’s actually guaranteed to be here. Replacing Chris was always going to be the hardest task yet compared to other players like Tyreek, Tyrann, etc. Giving Wilkins $25m AAV over Chris at $32m might have worked out, but that was too risky in the sense that it could totally ruin your defensive chemistry and how those guys view management if they see us send Chris AND Sneed away. This deal is about 2024-2026 and we are objectively better with a healthy Chris Jones as our defensive leader still. |
Super glad they got CJ95's deal done. Keep that train a-rollin', Bart Vartch!!
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Just hope that we can keep other good players we drafted next year.
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Holy shit! What a nice treat this morning. We have 0 titles without the man. It's a completely different defense when he's on the field and he's come up huge in key moments time and time again. Well deserved contract.
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There is no one up for free agency after this year that is more important to success or more valuable than Jones.
Nick Bolton is a MLb with coverage limitations (not a Fred Warner/Roquon Smith). Trey Smith is a RG. Creed Humphrey is a C. It would be risky to sacrifice your defensive unicorn/straw that stirs the drink to focus on keeping all 3 of those guys. I won’t be shocked if they only sign 1 long-term… And re: Jones deal, let’s not overlook the idea of future restructures. If they’re right against the cap next year or the year after, they could swipe the card again (restructure bonus) and push money into 26,27,28 and even into 29 and 30 on void years or added years. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top free agent on <a href="https://t.co/iLSuC0HswN">https://t.co/iLSuC0HswN</a> is off the board: Our story on Chris Jones’ mega deal with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, as the All-Pro stays on a 5-year contract worth almost $160M with $95M in practical guarantees <a href="https://t.co/npeS59XdhE">https://t.co/npeS59XdhE</a></p>— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1766789091662647547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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If we get another ring with Jones it's worth it. If not and good players are let go then it wasn't.
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Chris is a 1st team All-Pro
He has never sustained a serious injury his entire career He is the driving force behind a defensive unit that have won 3 Super Bowls. He will likely go down as the best and most accomplished Chiefs defensive player ever. This was the right move and should be celebrated. Excited to see Veach go to work now to fill out the roster. |
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And honestly, we shouldn’t care. Jones is a game-wrecking pass rusher who lifts the tide of the entire defensive line. Even keeping the best C and MLb in the game is less important than that. If this deal is 5/160 on paper (what it’s sounding like) the Chiefs have threaded the needle on keeping their star defender on board without doing something astronomical on his salary. Yes, $95M guaranteed is a huge number, but how much of that is signing bonus and how much hits years 4 and 5 and is not real? I think most would sign up for having Jones over the next 3 years for an average cap hit of $28.3M dollars, which is what the deal is if it’s a $25M signing bonus with $95M guaranteed years 1-3. The penalty is some dead cap in years 4 and 5. And maybe more down the road if they bonus out money for cap space in 25 or 26. I mean, if the cap just jumps over the next 2 years what it has has jumped this year, by the time you’d potentially be looking at a $5M dead cap charge in 27, you’re talking about dead cap space of like 1.6 percent of the cap. Negligible. |
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I didn't receive an amber alert for this! 31 other fan bases have had their Lombardi baby stolen!
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I wouldn't have done it solely because his age, but his impact on the game is undeniable.
It's inked. Let's roll. I hope Sneed gets all the money. |
Late in the year when Andy Reid started to refer to Sneed as the best corner in the game I was a bit taken back considering he was a free agent. I think this was the plan all along. Sneed had a career year just in time to raise his trade value immensely and I think Reid/Veach were trying to highlight the fact.
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I don't think we had a choice. He's healthy, productive, a good citizen, beloved teammate... you had to pay him.
Good for him. Good for us. The DL is rowdy with he, Furious George and, hopefully, FAU. |
Processing this deal the morning after. This turning out to be a 5-year deal smells like some brilliant capology by Veach that nobody anticipated. More years brings more flexibility, and against an ever increasing cap. It also feels better knowing if we don't get full value on this deal, we are at least paying a guy who was pivotal to winning all three of our championships, and ensuring he retires a Chief.
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Red Dawg has been the biggest bitch all off season about Jones.
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Chiefs and Jones agree to new deal
If you include this past season you can really view this as 4 years guaranteed at about $115 million.
I don’t think they would have gone this high last season but after getting him relatively cheap on the tag I think that made these numbers easier. |
Red Dawg puts the cereal in after the milk has already been poured. Truly abhorrent behavior.
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That's...a lot.
And the risk is massive but there's risk with someone coming in on a 2nd deal as well (scheme fit, motivation, character/culture, etc...) so it just is what it is. Hope it works out. I wouldn't have offered that deal but in the end they know more than I do so I guess I'll defer to the teams judgment. It's hard not to given recent results. |
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What would it take for you guys to call this deal a success after it’s all said and done?
I’m thinking 2 more great years from Jones with a couple years of decline and 1 more Super Bowl during his deal. |
Did not expect that kind of money to be thrown out. But, now that it's over, I'm glad he's here for the duration of his productive years of his pro life. That threepeat looks a little more attainable now.
Also, perhaps this gives the Chiefs a little pull with future free agents and draft picks that the team will take care of them if they come in and play lights out. Let's do this shit. |
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I'm looking forward to what FAU's year is going to look like. Jones and Karlaftis are known quantities that are going to draw the double teams giving the local kid his opportunities, especially early in the season. |
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Cause now that Veach is already having to do things like trade Sneed to offset a monster contract like this, so much of the pressure is shifted to the front office to make the right player acquisitions around Chris, Patrick, Kelce. Those guys are the pillars you don’t win it all without, but they can’t win it on their own. As long as we keep building a beast and win a championship in the next three years, hopefully multiple, it’ll be a success for sure. And that’s the thing about the alternate reality of losing Chris this year — we just have no idea how long it would have taken to overcome it. It very well may have sank our chances in 2024 specifically because with Omenihu’s injury, it was gonna be damn hard to add the necessary pass rushers to compete at the highest level in 2024. |
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Drafted Hudson in the 2nd round in 2011. Let him walk. Drafted Morse in the 2nd round in 2015. Let him walk. Drafted Humphrey in the 2nd round in 2021. They aren't stupid. And I see a trend. |
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Morse had real concussion issues. I can't believe he's still playing. So maybe, maybe not. Creed is the guy I'd extend, Smith walks, and Thuney you let go when it's cap friendly to do so. |
I feel like the Sneed trade has to becoming in the next 24 hours.
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Creed and Bolton won’t be making big cap hits until likely 2026. By then Thuney will be gone, Kelce will likely be gone, Taylor could be let go if needed, Tranquill will be gone and Reid could be gone if needed.
The roster won’t be the same as it is today. Guys will go and that money will be replaced by the up and comers. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs DT Chris Jones' new five-year deal (which will come in around $160 million) has $95 million over its first three years. The first two years (2024-25) are fully guaranteed at signing. His 2026 money vests as guaranteed in March 2025.<br><br>Other details still being ironed out.</p>— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1766848477579886977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Gutsy move. I will say this, Mr BV has some big ones.
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