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notorious 03-26-2024 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17458849)
Does there have to be a new bridge? How about going with a fun and retro ferry system?

https://i0.wp.com/www.revolutionaryw...93%2C601&ssl=1
We learned about this....many years ago:

<iframe src="https://gifer.com/embed/F6O" width=480 height=270.000 frameBorder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://gifer.com">via GIFER</a></p>

New World Order 03-26-2024 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17458937)
We learned about this....many years ago:

<iframe src="https://gifer.com/embed/F6O" width=480 height=270.000 frameBorder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://gifer.com">via GIFER</a></p>
I may have to find and play this tonight lol

notorious 03-26-2024 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17458940)
I may have to find and play this tonight lol
Remember, lots of bullets. Leave in April.

Rain Man 03-26-2024 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17458945)
Remember, lots of bullets. Leave in April.
And remember, amoebic dysentery is usually treated with drugs such as metronidazole and tinidazole.

Hydrae 03-26-2024 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17458849)
Does there have to be a new bridge? How about going with a fun and retro ferry system?

https://i0.wp.com/www.revolutionaryw...93%2C601&ssl=1
It will take a lot of ferries to get 35,000 cars across each day.

4th and Long 03-26-2024 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17458948)
And remember, amoebic dysentery is usually treated with drugs such as metronidazole and tinidazole.
Whoah! Hold the phone, Chuck! Rain Man knows his drugs!

I have a new found respect for you sir. You may want to throw in some Ciprofloxacin, however. Just to be on the safe side.

KCUnited 03-26-2024 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17458929)
There is no bridge in the world that can withstand a direct impact with a fully-loaded container ship.
Especially one that appears to have lost power

Garcia Bronco 03-26-2024 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17458929)
There is no bridge in the world that can withstand a direct impact with a fully-loaded container ship.
That won't stop people from using it as a political football. It's like control demolitions of buildings that got hit by planes.

HonestChieffan 03-26-2024 06:15 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lara Logan says she has inside sources who told her the bridge disaster was a terrorist attack. <a href="https://t.co/xB04Txi90I">pic.twitter.com/xB04Txi90I</a></p>&mdash; Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1772756706482647502?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The loons are out in full force as expected

Sassy Squatch 03-26-2024 06:21 PM
God damn, those are some mighty considerate terrorists. Wait until the bridge would be at its least busy then call a warning in about a half hour before impact just to try and mitigate some more.

mdchiefsfan 03-26-2024 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17458094)
Yeah a head on collision. Didn't even try to go left or right to avoid the collision.

That bridge is the only way to bypass Baltimore if you are traveling north or south.
Not entirely true. It is a loop. You can go West instead of East on the loop to bypass Baltimore, but it will heavily increase traffic on an already-strained, construction-laden I-95 with only half of a loop to bypass.

displacedinMN 03-26-2024 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17458940)
I may have to find and play this tonight lol
it is online

https://classicreload.com/oregon-trail.html

suzzer99 03-26-2024 06:28 PM
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...om-cargo-ships

https://archive.ph/PAhF5 (non-paywall)

These experts generally think the major bridges in CA would come out ok. Also that fenders would help a lot.

scho63 03-26-2024 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17458382)
I think there are many cruise ships that use that port too. They are ****ed.
That would suck to have an upcoming cruise and the ship can't leave Baltimore Port.

Lot of money passengers have given the Big 3 cruise companies.

scho63 03-26-2024 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 17459004)
Not entirely true. It is a loop. You can go West instead of East on the loop to bypass Baltimore, but it will heavily increase traffic on an already-strained, construction-laden I-95 with only half of a loop to bypass.
You have 895 too

Garcia Bronco 03-26-2024 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17459018)
That would suck to have an upcoming cruise and the ship can't leave Baltimore Port.

Lot of money passengers have given the Big 3 cruise companies.
In 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours it can be in Norfolk

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-26-2024 07:05 PM
Does it take a god damn pig farmer to suggest they have a backup power supply connected to the friggin steering wheel!

Garcia Bronco 03-26-2024 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17459037)
Does it take a god damn pig farmer to suggest they have a backup power supply connected to the friggin steering wheel!
That's effective to a point. But you can have 15 redundant systems if there's no power there's no power. The NTSB report will be the thing to understand.

Easy 6 03-26-2024 07:25 PM
I heard there was a Mothman sighting just before this happened

rfaulk34 03-26-2024 07:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dashcam footage of driving over the Baltimore Bridge truly reveals the scale of what has collapsed, and collapsed so quickly and completely. <a href="https://t.co/0RU9hMAsYN">pic.twitter.com/0RU9hMAsYN</a></p>&mdash; Guy Walters 🇺🇦 (@guywalters) <a href="https://twitter.com/guywalters/status/1772568132822950003?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 03-26-2024 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17459037)
Does it take a god damn pig farmer to suggest they have a backup power supply connected to the friggin steering wheel!
Does it take a damn software developer to suggest that you could just let pigs **** on their own and find something better to do with your time all day than jacking off boars?

notorious 03-26-2024 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17459037)
Does it take a god damn pig farmer to suggest they have a backup power supply connected to the friggin steering wheel!
If it make you feel better the harbor pilot was probably jerking the wheel like it was attached to prized swine balls.

scho63 03-27-2024 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17458402)
Not sure the harbor pilot gets onboard that early. My sister has a female friend that is a harbor pilot master at Port of Philly/Delaware and I believe she takes over within a short distant when she boards the ship. She makes insane amounts of money. Dangerous job.
All reports say the harbor pilots were already aboard.

They must get on very early in the harbor and I did not see an escort tug, which occurs often.

This harbor must have different rules and maybe it is bridge related.

TwistedChief 03-27-2024 07:09 AM
Thought this provided some nice context on the role of the harbor pilot:

https://theconversation.com/ive-capt...lisions-226700

neech 03-27-2024 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17459285)
Thought this provided some nice context on the role of the harbor pilot:

https://theconversation.com/ive-capt...lisions-226700
The captain can still do what he wants in essence.

If the captains a control freak and won't listen to others, then that's the way it goes.

neech 03-27-2024 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17458997)
God damn, those are some mighty considerate terrorists.
You see the new, modern-day terrorists are trying to get away from the ugly thug type of image and have a charming persona of themselves by being polite and mannerly.
With a sophistication and charm about them that makes you want to invite them in for a cup of tea.

Lzen 03-27-2024 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 17458989)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lara Logan says she has inside sources who told her the bridge disaster was a terrorist attack. <a href="https://t.co/xB04Txi90I">pic.twitter.com/xB04Txi90I</a></p>&mdash; Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1772756706482647502?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The loons are out in full force as expected
I won't rule out cyber attack just yet. However, this seems a little hyperbolic to me. Why could trucks not route around that?

stanleychief 03-27-2024 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17459070)
Does it take a damn software developer to suggest that you could just let pigs **** on their own and find something better to do with your time all day than jacking off boars?
Sounds more like a hardware issue to me.

Lzen 03-27-2024 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by stanleychief (Post 17459328)
Sounds more like a hardware issue to me.
I think that is what happened. And someone posted earlier in this thread that the same ship had issues a few years ago and had an incident. Not sure of the accuracy of that but if true, that is really bad.

raybec 4 03-27-2024 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17459321)
I won't rule out cyber attack just yet. However, this seems a little hyperbolic to me. Why could trucks not route around that?
They can, or, if needed sips can dock in several other port cities.

loochy 03-27-2024 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17459402)
They can, or, if needed sips can dock in several other port cities.

They can, but does the port have the necessary open capacity? It works a lot like airports, with scheduled ins and outs. It's really hard to work things in when they already operate near capacity anyway.

ptlyon 03-27-2024 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by neech (Post 17459320)
You see the new, modern-day terrorists are trying to get away from the ugly thug type of image and have a charming persona of themselves by being polite and mannerly.
With a sophistication and charm about them that makes you want to invite them in for a cup of tea.
Democrats?

ThrobProng 03-27-2024 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 17458989)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lara Logan says she has inside sources who told her the bridge disaster was a terrorist attack. <a href="https://t.co/xB04Txi90I">pic.twitter.com/xB04Txi90I</a></p>&mdash; Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1772756706482647502?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


The loons are out in full force as expected
And plenty of morons believe her.

Lzen 03-27-2024 09:47 AM
I realize that everyone wants to just throw aside the cyber attack angle but, I think it's at least worth some consideration. Here's some good discussion on this, from all angles, if anyone cares to look at it with an open mind.

IMO, you can't say one way or the other this soon. There has to be some investigation first.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uxyzX8v_lfk?si=kNzU1gu-tjzhaf2k" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigRedChief 03-27-2024 09:49 AM
Why does every event have to be some shadowy conspiracy?

ThrobProng 03-27-2024 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17459456)
Why does every event have to be some shadowy conspiracy?
Some people love drama so much that even a bridge collapsing isn't dramatic enough for them...thus the bridge collapse AND a cyber attack. It's way more dramatic than an accident.

HonestChieffan 03-27-2024 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17459456)
Why does every event have to be some shadowy conspiracy?
The loony is everywhere and they feed off one another

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17459454)
I realize that everyone wants to just throw aside the cyber attack angle but, I think it's at least worth some consideration. Here's some good discussion on this, from all angles, if anyone cares to look at it with an open mind.

IMO, you can't say one way or the other this soon. There has to be some investigation first.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uxyzX8v_lfk?si=kNzU1gu-tjzhaf2k" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Ruled out. No. There hasn't been a full investigation. But likely...probably not.

The Franchise 03-27-2024 10:02 AM
Godzilla hasn’t been ruled out yet. I think we need a full investigation.

Sassy Squatch 03-27-2024 10:03 AM
Accidents don't exist anymore. Literally everything that happens, ever, needs to be an Info Wars special

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 10:04 AM
Hanlan's Razor

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Human's are lazy, they make mistakes, and that is the most likely explanation.

The Franchise 03-27-2024 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17459467)
Accidents don't exist anymore. Literally everything that happens, ever, needs to be an Info Wars special
It’s that way because idiots ****ing buy into it.

Jewish Rabbi 03-27-2024 10:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17459454)
I realize that everyone wants to just throw aside the cyber attack angle but, I think it's at least worth some consideration. Here's some good discussion on this, from all angles, if anyone cares to look at it with an open mind.

IMO, you can't say one way or the other this soon. There has to be some investigation first.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uxyzX8v_lfk?si=kNzU1gu-tjzhaf2k" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Can we rule out the reerunation angle from you?

scho63 03-27-2024 11:37 AM
They should change it from a bridge to a tunnel, problem solved.

chefsos 03-27-2024 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17459550)
They should change it from a bridge to a tunnel, problem solved.
I think you have been around there more than I have so you probably already know this, but there are two tunnels under the harbor. One of the primary functions of the Key Bridge has always been hazmat routing, as they can't use the tunnels.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17459467)
Accidents don't exist anymore. Literally everything that happens, ever, needs to be an Info Wars special
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17459470)
It’s that way because idiots ****ing buy into it.
Okay, this probably should be a DC statement, so I'll spoiler it. I think it's relevant enough that I'll take the hit if I need to delete it.

Spoiler!

The Franchise 03-27-2024 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17459602)
Okay, this probably should be a DC statement, so I'll spoiler it. I think it's relevant enough that I'll take the hit if I need to delete it.

Spoiler!
Leave it up. It’s the truth. And the people who buy it aren’t going to read it anyways.

Mecca 03-27-2024 12:33 PM
I clicked on the DC thread, my brain is now mush, what in the **** is going on there?

Katipan 03-27-2024 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17459641)
I clicked on the DC thread, my brain is now mush, what in the **** is going on there?
Alcohol.
Trauma.
Lack of affection.
Self loathing.

BigRedChief 03-27-2024 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17459647)
Alcohol.
Trauma.
Lack of affection.
Self loathing.
:LOL:

Otter 03-27-2024 12:46 PM
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ForeverChiefs58 03-27-2024 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 17458929)
There is no bridge in the world that can withstand a direct impact with a fully-loaded container ship.
When has this ever happened before?

Otter 03-27-2024 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 17459665)
When has this ever happened before?

In recent history...
I
  • Bay Bridge Collision (San Francisco, USA - 2007): In November 2007, the container ship Cosco Busan struck a support tower of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge in dense fog. The collision resulted in a gash in the ship's hull, causing a significant oil spill into the San Francisco Bay.
  • River Thames Collision (London, UK - 2015): In September 2015, the cargo ship Saga Sky collided with the underside of the Kew Railway Bridge on the River Thames in London. The collision caused damage to the bridge, and the ship was stuck underneath for several hours, disrupting river traffic.
  • Ems River Collision (Germany - 2020): In December 2020, the cargo ship Siderfly collided with a railway bridge over the Ems River in northern Germany. The collision caused significant damage to both the ship and the bridge, leading to the closure of the railway line.
  • Suez Canal Incident (Egypt - 2021): While not a collision with a traditional overhead bridge, the incident involving the container ship Ever Given in the Suez Canal in March 2021 can be seen as a similar type of mishap. The ship ran aground and became wedged diagonally across the canal, blocking traffic in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes for nearly a week, causing significant disruption to global trade.

ForeverChiefs58 03-27-2024 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17459669)

Transport ships hitting overhead bridges is a rare but serious occurrence that can result in significant damage to both the ship and the bridge, as well as potential environmental and safety hazards. While such incidents are relatively uncommon, here are a few notable examples:
  • Bay Bridge Collision (San Francisco, USA - 2007): In November 2007, the container ship Cosco Busan struck a support tower of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge in dense fog. The collision resulted in a gash in the ship's hull, causing a significant oil spill into the San Francisco Bay.
  • River Thames Collision (London, UK - 2015): In September 2015, the cargo ship Saga Sky collided with the underside of the Kew Railway Bridge on the River Thames in London. The collision caused damage to the bridge, and the ship was stuck underneath for several hours, disrupting river traffic.
  • Ems River Collision (Germany - 2020): In December 2020, the cargo ship Siderfly collided with a railway bridge over the Ems River in northern Germany. The collision caused significant damage to both the ship and the bridge, leading to the closure of the railway line.
  • Suez Canal Incident (Egypt - 2021): While not a collision with a traditional overhead bridge, the incident involving the container ship Ever Given in the Suez Canal in March 2021 can be seen as a similar type of mishap. The ship ran aground and became wedged diagonally across the canal, blocking traffic in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes for nearly a week, causing significant disruption to global trade.
These incidents underscore the importance of proper navigation procedures, communication, and situational awareness for maritime traffic to avoid collisions with bridges and other structures.
I meant to cause bridge to just collapse

Ships have done damages before, but I’ve never seen so much of a bridge just collapse into the water from being hit by a ship.

Frosty 03-27-2024 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 17459679)
I meant to cause bridge to just collapse

Ships have done damages before, but I’ve never seen so much of a bridge just collapse into the water from being hit by a ship.
35 times between 1960 and 2015 according to this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2518801.html

loochy 03-27-2024 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 17459703)
35 times between 1960 and 2015 according to this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2518801.html

Wow, that's a lot of Russian cyberattacks

Rain Man 03-27-2024 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17459768)
Wow, that's a lot of Russian cyberattacks
Some of them were Soviet cyberattacks.

DaFace 03-27-2024 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17459602)
Okay, this probably should be a DC statement, so I'll spoiler it. I think it's relevant enough that I'll take the hit if I need to delete it.

Spoiler!
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I'm now distracted by the possessive form of Arkansas. I'm pretty sure that the right answer is technically "Arkansas's" but I have no idea how one would say that aloud...

OnTheWarpath15 03-27-2024 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 17459703)
35 times between 1960 and 2015 according to this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2518801.html
Those damn DEI policies of the 1960's...

loochy 03-27-2024 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17459800)
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I'm now distracted by the possessive form of Arkansas. I'm pretty sure that the right answer is technically "Arkansas's" but I have no idea how one would say that aloud...

Arkansas' or Arkansas's are both correct.


The pronunciation would be ARK AN SAWS or ARK AN SAW ZIS

siberian khatru 03-27-2024 03:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 17459679)
I meant to cause bridge to just collapse

Ships have done damages before, but I’ve never seen so much of a bridge just collapse into the water from being hit by a ship.
1980 Sunshine Skyway bridge in Tampa.

https://www.jacksonville.com/gcdn/au...pjpg&auto=webp

When they rebuilt it, they added concrete barriers called “dolphins” that protect the piers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Skyway_Bridge

Chitownchiefsfan 03-27-2024 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17459456)
Why does every event have to be some shadowy conspiracy?
Part of it is human nature. One of the things that allowed us to evolve as humans is our ability to find patterns. It allows us to map the stars and learn how to track animals.

But it also leads to where we see patterns that are not there. Or just correlations and not causations. And being able to "see" these patterns when others can't make us feel important. Like we are special.

It's easier for some to swallow there is a shadow conspiracy that is controlling everything than to admit that life is just chaos.

suzzer99 03-27-2024 04:17 PM
If one person believes the conspiracy, it's mental illness. If millions of people believe the same conspiracy, it's politics.

Sassy Squatch 03-27-2024 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17459874)
If one person believes the conspiracy, it's mental illness. If millions of people believe the same conspiracy, it's politics.
So, still mental illness?

Perineum Ripper 03-27-2024 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17459800)
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I'm now distracted by the possessive form of Arkansas. I'm pretty sure that the right answer is technically "Arkansas's" but I have no idea how one would say that aloud...
Welp, this conundrum is now going to ****ing haunt me for the next couple days.

displacedinMN 03-27-2024 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17459840)
1980 Sunshine Skyway bridge in Tampa.

https://www.jacksonville.com/gcdn/au...pjpg&auto=webp

When they rebuilt it, they added concrete barriers called “dolphins” that protect the piers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Skyway_Bridge
I had forgotten about this until I saw it on the news tonight.

UteChief 03-27-2024 06:38 PM
Wouldn’t it be Arkansas’?

siberian khatru 03-27-2024 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17460017)
I had forgotten about this until I saw it on the news tonight.
I used to commute over the “new” bridge until I started working from home since the pandemic. It’s spectacular.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17459800)
I don't disagree with anything you said, but I'm now distracted by the possessive form of Arkansas. I'm pretty sure that the right answer is technically "Arkansas's" but I have no idea how one would say that aloud...
It was bothering me even as I typed it. I initially put the apostrophe s on it and that didn't look right, so I went with the standard rule of no s if there's already an s. But I'm not sure that looks right either. Maybe nobody has ever used the possessive form of Arkansas, so it's never been finalized.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 03-27-2024 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17459641)
I clicked on the DC thread, my brain is now mush, what in the **** is going on there?
Sweet mother of Christmas, you ain't just whistling dixie. That place is a ****ng cesspool of batshit, xenophobic lunacy. Two minutes in and I could feel my brain turning into oatmeal.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17460024)
Wouldn’t it be Arkansas’?
Quote:
Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17459810)
Arkansas' or Arkansas's are both correct.


The pronunciation would be ARK AN SAWS or ARK AN SAW ZIS
I think this is why I like having no second s at the end. It's easier to pronounce Arkan-saws than to add an extra syllable.

ChiefaRoo 03-27-2024 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17459876)
So, still mental illness?
Mass formation psychosis?

GabyKeepsMeWarm 03-27-2024 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan (Post 17459856)
Part of it is human nature. One of the things that allowed us to evolve as humans is our ability to find patterns. It allows us to map the stars and learn how to track animals.

But it also leads to where we see patterns that are not there. Or just correlations and not causations. And being able to "see" these patterns when others can't make us feel important. Like we are special.

It's easier for some to swallow there is a shadow conspiracy that is controlling everything than to admit that life is just chaos.
So in the case of these losers, basically astrology. Speaking of which, I should really check my horoscope so I know what I'm supposed to be doing today.

Chitownchiefsfan 03-27-2024 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17460083)
It was bothering me even as I typed it. I initially put the apostrophe s on it and that didn't look right, so I went with the standard rule of no s if there's already an s. But I'm not sure that looks right either. Maybe nobody has ever used the possessive form of Arkansas, so it's never been finalized.
Apparently Arkansas passed a bill declaring it to be Arkansas's

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2007/...sass-statutes/

comochiefsfan 03-27-2024 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17460026)
I used to commute over the “new” bridge until I started working from home since the pandemic. It’s spectacular.
I've driven over that bridge several times over the years when down in that area. You're right it's spectacular and as someone who isn't used to something like that I found it a bit unsettling for some reason. When going up it you literally feel like you're driving up towards the sky. It's a little freaky but very cool.

Rain Man 03-27-2024 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan (Post 17460134)
Apparently Arkansas passed a bill declaring it to be Arkansas's

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2007/...sass-statutes/
Yeah, but it's Arkansas doing that. That may mean that the proper form is no s.

(I lived in Arkansas for a while as a kid, so I'm allowed to say that.)

Dartgod 03-27-2024 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17460083)
It was bothering me even as I typed it. I initially put the apostrophe s on it and that didn't look right, so I went with the standard rule of no s if there's already an s. But I'm not sure that looks right either. Maybe nobody has ever used the possessive form of Arkansas, so it's never been finalized.
I think you should just use Ourkansas.

Garcia Bronco 03-27-2024 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by UteChief (Post 17460024)
Wouldn’t it be Arkansas’?
That's correct.

BigRedChief 03-27-2024 08:58 PM
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I had forgotten about this until I saw it on the news tonight.
I live around the corner from the replacement bridge. You can land a 300lb grouper under that bridge.

ping2000 03-28-2024 07:57 AM
Don't know if it has been brought up yet, but the Key Bridge was the approved crossing for hazardous materials. They aren't allowed to go through the tunnels on 95 or 895. Not sure how often that comes into play.


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