Dueling tub Tuesdays for Burrow. Hot tub - ice tub

Where is rfaulk? Seems awfully quiet this week.

The Bengals looked uninspired and a bit old, as if they know the window is closed this year, anyway. I thought their OLine looked slow and vulnerable and the Chiefs will come HARD Sunday...with Chase and Count Dracula as the main options, I will be surprised if this game is close in the 3rd Q.

The hard reality of him realizing I was right about Burrows wrist injury had to sting...

I think they just had a bad game. The Chiefs looked terrible at times last season. Remember the Raiders game. Plus, game 1 still feels like preseason for some teams.

The Bengals will play better than week 1 but KC should still win. Both teams have weapons on offense. The Chiefs have a better defense.

That wrist is an issue...period. This isn't the same team with that injury. He was wincing and fidgeting with the wrist the whole game.

He's still a damn good QB. Its just the wrist injury doing him in.

Hendrickson is still really good. One of the top players in pass rush win rate and pressures.

Probably gonna need to give Kingsley some help against him

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If Borrow has hand problem his grip in the cold weather will become an issue. Thats when you will see if they are screwed.

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Chiefs 3-0 in games he refs!

Is there a ref in the Mahomes era that KC has a losing record with?

3-4 with Brad Allen

4-6 with Clete Blakeman

WHOA! Those are serious outliers there.


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Yup...and you'll notice how BAD those games are slanted for the opposition. Especially Clete.

A Pat Mahomes team going 4-6 is VERY shady

I love Anarumo but the day they lost DJ Reader was the day their entire gameplan against the Chiefs will need to be rebuilt.

You can run light boxes against the Chiefs run game if you have Reader, because he's Mike Pennel on steroids.

With no Reader, however, you're going to have to play honest boxes.

And, honestly, if I played the Chiefs with their personnel I'd probably start flooding the intermediates like Anarumo has for years. Swallow up the intermediate routes, dare Mahomes to go deep.

Well, now they have legitimate deep threats, multiple.

I think I'd still flood the intermediate, simply because I trust Worthy/Hardman/Brown to beat me less than I trust Kelce/Rice? But I don't feel good about it.

If the Bengals play us honestly, we're going to drop 30 on them. If they don't, we probably still drop 30 on them.

And I don't think their offense can keep up anymore.

Blakeman was the guy who made that absolute BS roughing the passer call on Stone Cold in the 2018 AFCCG...a complete game changer.

The Bengals are still pretty talented on both sides of the ball, just not as much as they were in previous seasons. I am curious to see how the game goes this week.

They routinely start slow and play KC very tough. We will see if the Patriots loss was a “one off” like KC typically has once a year or a sign of what’s to come.

KC’s the better team and I do expect them to come out on top.

I agree with this. Cinci seems to typically start slow with this regime. I think they will have something for the Chiefs and play much better but the Chiefs will be ready and win a close game.

It’s frankly next week when I suspect a letdown is possible although Atlanta is probably (?) not good enough to take advantage of it.

Boyd, Reader, Mixon, Bates and Perine are gone...looks like Higgins has a hamstring.

No Higgins (or Boyd) last week...they put up 10 points at home against a team that picked #3 last season. Wrist or not....it's what people have been saying for a while. Burrow having two #1 WRs were crucial to his success...

Their run defense looked terrible...

How do you not get up for your home opener? They looked uninspired and lifeless...

They still have talent, just not like in previous years. No clue why they didn’t get up more for their home opener. I do know they start slow typically and may have overlooked NE because of KC this week. Even KC is known to lay an egg once a year.

I think we will know a whole lot more about them after this game, especially if KC dominates and wins easily.

We should have still won that game if the defense didn't shit themselves three times in overtime on like 3rd and 10.

Looked like my Madden 25 defense on 3rd down.

Or had Dee Ford just lined up onsides. Then there would have never been an overtime.

I expect them to play us tough, but the Bengals OL will struggle with our passrush, just like the Ravens did. And Burrow is a good athlete, but he's not Lamar Jackson.

His weapons are better; the Higgins/Chase combo has beaten our secondary for years. But with only Chase in this game, he'll be easier to manage. And the Bengals simply do not have the Ravens run game.

I like the Bengals defense in some spots, but that loss of Reader is a killer against the Chiefs. The only way I think you can contain this offense is by having a Reader-type on the DL that allows you to play light boxes and still stop the run, while dropping everyone and their mother into coverage.

I think we have more answers for the Bengals on both sides of the ball than they do for us.

If Burrow stays healthy, I think the Bengals are going to be our hardest opponent in January.

But not right now. Right now, the Chiefs are two touchdowns better.

Weapons must be really bad if he had all day and can’t move the ball

Per Next Gen Stats, Joe Burrow was pressured on just 6 of his 35 dropbacks, the 3rd lowest pressure rate he has faced in his career (17.1%).

His pressure rate was down because he was only throwing 5 yard passes. The play calling skewed that

Pathetic.

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'They' didn't have a bad game.

Joe Burrow did. He had plenty of protection and he had open guys. He just didn't play worth a damn.

If that's who he is, the Bengals are picking top 10 in this year's draft. If it was just him trying to find his 'new normal' with the wrist and maybe a little adrenaline and genuinely having their season on the line gets him back into fighting form, they'll be a tough out.

But man, Joe Burrow was a damn trainwreck last weekend. He'd better thank his stars for Williams, Nix, Watson, Levis and Jones setting the QB position back 30 years last weekend or more people would be talking about how shitty he was. His average target depth was actually WORSE than Nix last week. That's how bad that passer diagram was.

For all the pre-season hype about Jermaine Burton, dude barely saw the field.

They were running a couple dudes named Andrei Iosiva and Trenton Irwin out there over Burton.

That's...not ideal.

Why do people on CP give the Bengals the same benefit of the doubt they do the Chiefs?

The Bengals haven't earned that. They start slow every year, we just haven't played them this early yet. So no, I'm not buying that they can just turn it on this week and be in their late season mode.

They really hate us and play well against us pretty much no matter what, that's the main reason. They've been waiting for this game since the schedules were announced.

But yes them totally sucking ass and not turning it on this week is certainly on the table given that they always start badly

That clip of Burrow on 3rd down at the end of the game that's been making the rounds; the most alarming part about it was Burrow dodging ghosts in the backfield.

To me, that's more worrisome than his passing charts or his wrist.

He's afraid to get hit. Likely protecting that wrist. That Oline + his injury are totally in his head.

People keep talking about him being unwilling to throw against single coverage. I think it was much more about his staring at the rush and never seeing the play develop downfield to begin with.

This could all be true, hard to disagree with it. He looked bad no doubt.

Could be the wrist, the rust. Or, could be just his M.O. with these ridiculously slow starts to the seasons.

Burrow/Taylor are now 1-8 (during Burrow's career) in the first 2 weeks of the season and staring 1-9 in the face.
The only win was nearly a miracle victory in 2021 when they beat Vikings in OT due to Dalvin Cook fumble in Bengals territory.

Extremely frustrating with these slow starts. If Bengals run defense doesn't extremely improve in a hurry, Pacheco is going to have a monster day.

If you just watch his movement in the pocket on that play.....man i swear he looks ready to go fetal almost right away.

Cool. You going ? ROFL

Oh man. Day trip to Cincy. Gonna stop at the famous Shit Chili restaurant and then off to sit in one of the shittiest stadiums in America to watch the Chiefs win and smell the STDs and BO.

I think the important thing is that they do turn it around at some point and most expect the added motivation of playing us early on may give them the spark they need.

Gotta get as much cash as possible to pay Chase.

What about with his son Patrick, though?

At some point that's gotta cost Zac Taylor his job, right?

1-10 through the first 2 weeks over his first 5+ seasons in the league? That's just unacceptable. At a point, do SOMETHING different. You can't be spotting the rest of the AFC at least 1 and often 2 wins every single season.

Whatever you're doing in camp - stop. Do something else. These slow starts are killing them. It puts so much pressure on them to keep the pedal down and potentially show plays/tendencies that they'd rather keep back down the stretch.

Burrow hasn't earned that.

Have we reached a point where beating Mahomes in the playoffs once gets you a lifetime pass? You stay in the 'top 5 QBs' lists because that thing you did that one time?

One season with MVP votes. One. Got badly outplayed by Jake Browning last season. Can't stay healthy. May simply not be physically sound (now or perhaps ever). And has NEVER performed without 2 premier pass-catchers in this lineup.

Why do we keep acting like it's verboten to question whether or not Joe Burrow is a truly premier QB and not just another average guy who's a product of his weapons?

It's silly. DJ Reader has a better track record relative to his position group. Chase certainly does. Higgins does. Shit, Mixon might have.

It's really ridiculous that people keep trying to keep him in the same tier as Mahomes. He's not on that level.

Allen is considered the 2nd best QB in the league because he plays Mahomes close in the playoffs.

So yeah, it seems that way.

Jake Browning looked every bit as good as Burrow last year. Their playmakers were just ridiculous and makes Burrow look better. I don’t think Burrow is bad by any means, but he is propped up and this year could be different.

That game was 3rd and Eric Berry all day long. I would've benched him.

Dude was bailing to the check down a second after the ball was snapped. That's skewed like crazy./

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Higgins has a hamstring injury, Burrow is clearly not back to form yet, and Chase missed a lot of time holding out. Combine all that with the fact that their defense is now terrible, and they lost Mixon and Boyd in the offseason as well, and you have very little reason to think they can get this this turned around in one ****ing week.

Always felt like it was a long-shot to get him back against Cincy. And we shouldn't really need him against Atlanta.

I've had the Chargers game circled for a bit now.

Yeaaaahhhh..... I could see your clavicle being centimeters out of position a HUGE ****ing problem lol. He must've meant milimeters.

Burrow is still living of his Natty at LSU.

Nah. Allen is considered 2nd best because his talent level pops off the screen when he's playing his best, and has literally carried that team.

No one says, "Well, Allen wouldn't be shit w/o those receivers..."

We also really hate them, though. The motivation factor just isn’t a player in this matchup

They suck, I hope both sides of our squad are on full display and we put up 35+ on these fools!

If you think Mahomes doesn't want to correct the 1-3 record he has against Cincy, man...

There are fewer superstars who play better with a grudge than Mahomes. He "Superman'd" against them in a 2022 regular season game.

Cincy is likely amped up for this game. But it's going to go both ways, because Mahomes likely wants to overtake Burrow in head-to-head. I wouldn't be surprised if he cares more about any other regular season game he plays this season than he does about this one.

That was the year that Jordan Lucas showed up off waivers and played pretty well for us, right?

I feel like I remember being pissed we hadn't sat Berry down and brought Lucas in to get some actual mobility back there.

Because Berry was washed as they get out there.

Honestly, the entire defense deserves a big shit-burger for that one. Wasn't the entire starting DL held completely off the stat sheet? No sacks, no QB hits, no anything.

It was a complete disaster on defense. And of course Bob Sutton went with the ol' "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas!" approach...

Totally agree, this is a game everyone is going to be hyped up for. Mahomes will do everything in his power to win this, and I think we win. I'm jealous of anyone who has tickets to the game it's going to be nuts but I was just answering the question of why people think the Bengals are going to play well when they always suck in September.

Two straight AFCCGs with one SB appearance and another one that was an epic Mahomes performance away from a SB buys a lot of leeway. KC is the benchmark and Cincinnati’s ability to play them tough or beat them will make it easier to justify retaining him.

Holding a big Game Watch Party for a Week 2 regular season game?

Pathetic look. ROFL

Looks like we traded a 7th rounder for him. I couldn't remember who it was, but I remembered we had safety that was playing decent and when they decided to roll Berry out in the playoffs (IIRC the AFC championship game was his first one??) I loved berry and I was really excited so I wore my old Eric Berry jersey to the AFC championship game, he was SO bad I wanted to take it off. Every time Brady needed a 3rd and long they'd get Gronk one on one with Berry and it was just pitch and catch first downs over and over. It was infuriating.

Speaking of Bob "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas" Sutton...didn't it come out that Andy forced him to play a couple backup corners against the Seahawks the last game of that season? I'm thinking one of them was Ward, but it might've been someone else.

From our friend Marty Mac, who has a long history in coaching baseball.

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The excuses start in 3...2...1

Higgins gonna play. No way they want this want as a loss.

They'll run him out there, he'll pull it again, and miss another month.

Bungles are horrible with this.

Mahomes is actually 3-3 vs. Cincy, but 1-3 vs. Burrow.

Burrow isn't ready to face Mahomes this time around. About to be 2-3

All the same, would you be surprised if they played us tight next week? I wouldn’t.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the Colts are the only team with a winning record against Mahomes?

God, that 2018 Bengals game was the most fun I've ever had at a Chiefs game.

I didn't even want to leave Arrowhead. That's as much fun as I can remember having at a Chiefs game.

Sure seems like they're gonna let Hollywood come back in Atlanta.

Wish it were sooner but if it does reduce his odds for some sort of reinjury in any way, probably the right call. Don't think he is necessary to win this one, if not win it comfortably given the state of Cincy.

And if it means another week of increased role for Worthy, that's fun. Running game is going to be important either way. We should be able to win in that battle this time around.

I would like to see Perine make some nice plays to help the Chiefs win. He made some pretty big plays for the Bengals in their previous wins against the Chiefs. It would be cool to see the opposite scenario.

It'll be way closer than it should be. I think the Bengals run it more and have some success. Their passing game will be better even if all they do is cut down on the mistakes. Chase will play well. Who knows maybe they realise Burton is a better bet than the dross they have running out currently. I also don't think their OL has as much of a problem with our pass rush as some predict.

But I'm not sure it'll matter. As Direckshun and others said i don't see how their D plays us without Reader. Maybe Mahomes has a rare off day or we go really vanilla, or maybe we leave Kingsley on an island and Hendricksen wrecks the game...i just don't see it.

I would really, really love to see us boat race these c***s.

Agree. It’s unbelievable how stacked we are at receiver. Silver lining is that Hollywood being out let everyone (especially Reid) see how good Worthy is.

Watched the condensed version of the Pats/Bengals. That OL is not good at all. Trent Brown is so so bad. I’d put Karlaftis on him and Chris inside against Volson.

I think this is finally gonna be the game where Mahomes puts a whoopin on Burrow.

When the Patriots dump a player you should stay away.

If we play well, yes. If we play like shit, no.

Burrow very well may get it back on track but even if, I think the odds of it showing this week are slim to none.

KC's secondary is real fast, and really on the same accord. It's just hard. He's going to need to win a lot of 50-50 balls down field I think to have a shot at winning or sustaining offense.

Chris Jones clearly has free reign on the DL. I cannot wait for him to kill Joe Burrow. If he plays like he did last week, then he will get 2+ sacks. The dudes gonna win DPOTY.

If Burrow comes out this week and looks like shit against us, then I think he might be completely ****ed from that injury. This is the kind of game that should pull his head out of his ass and if he's shit, then I think Bengals fans should be really concerned.