They're the 2018 Chiefs.

LJ's improved every year, I would guess some of it is reps, and some of it is trusting his arm more than his feet, but his accuracy and vision seem far superior to just a few years ago. He's a handful, but I think the Chiefs have the antidote...Karlaftis and Jones to collapse the pocket, with Uche to make him think about the speed outside rush, hybrid safety/corners to spy, and a shut-down corner to take away his deep options...which only leaves TE in short to medium routes. IF LJ can figure a way to beatthe Chiefs in Arrowhead, he will get his flowers, if not, he may always be remembered more as Tony Gwynn than Big Papi

Damn the pieces keep falling for them

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I saw that they allowed 8 sacks and 30 pressures last night. That’s insane.

And that wasn’t a one off. They’ve been bad for weeks now.

Will never win a title

He shouldn't have 2 MVPs...

Not really

Lamar is averaging a PATHETIC 16 PPG in his playoff career. That's not going to cut it, folks

So, we believe now that CJ Stroud is coming back down to earth? Looks that way to me, but I haven’t been watching him all that close

So maybe the wear and tear of the regular season has reduced his playoff performance. And/or he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor when the pressure is highest in the playoffs, especially if his team gets behind.

But I never thought he would physically last as long as he has. Yes, he hasn't finished every season. But he has finished most and is still a really effective runner.

And despite being called a RB, his passing has gotten decidedly better. Is it elite? No, but for people who say you can't improve accuracy, Lamar has gotten better.

Pretty unlikely to ever win a title.

Give him Nico Collins and Diggs back and a decent OL and I think he is still a top QB.

So he’s closer to Purdy than Mahomes/allen.

Maybe some, but he's still good. Even last night I thought he looked better than his numbers. The Jets pass rush was getting after it.

Honestly, he looks like any QB that is playing behlnd a bad OL which has sustained injuries, and is playing without his #1 AND # 2 WR's. Add to the fact that he's very young, he doesn't have much experience to draw from.

Injury stuff going on with Houston. But even before the injuries they were not exactly torching every defense with 40 points per game.

I think Bobby Slowik and CJ Stroud both had an advantage last year as brand new OC and brand new QB. But now the league has figured out some of their tendencies. Mix in some injuries and it gets much tougher for them.

Thats a great take. You can tell that Stroud is getting a little frustrated.

He's a very good young QB but his flaws are starting to show.


Like Josh Allen he can get his head messed up when you switch coverages, get his head in a blender.

Their OL has really struggled this year. You could also tell Stroud looked worse when Collins got hurt. It was night and day difference. Then he lost Diggs.

Of course teams now have ample film on the kid and know him better so they are starting to exploit him but the losses on offense have really hurt him

Well, yea.

But I doubt Purdy would be able to do even as well as CJ is doing behind that Texan OL and with those receivers.

I probably would agree with that, or predict the same. I think Stroud is a much better athlete with a significantly better arm, so yeah, I'd bet $$$ that Purdy would have a much harder time as QB for HOU right now.

Of course, pretty much anybody would probably agree with that sentiment.


Just think it's interesting how certain QBs get those excuses while others don't.


At the end of the day, I do hope Stroud ends up being at least close to what all the talking heads have predicted for him. Definitely need more quality QB play in the league.

That's a huge reason why. QBs that run that much don't win titles. Same for all the hits Josh Allen takes in the regular season getting cheap rushing yards. They're sacrificing to put up regular season blowouts and numbers. Pat obviously saves those plays for the postseason and key moments

Very few QBs can be dominant with those factors working against them.

Baker just threw for 330 yds and 3 TDs without his WR1 and WR2, behind an OL that's given up 21 sacks, tied for 8th worst in the NFL. With a rookie OC, and in his 7th or 8th offensive system. Just saying.

The Buccs are 29th in pass defense.

Oh yeah, though not sure what that has to do with what we're talking about.

TB's defense is in the shitter right now. bottom 10 in almost every metric. The only thing I'd be wary of is that they have played well in at least a couple games. They have a lot of good players, like Lavante David, McCollum, Vea or course.

But their best coverage LBs are all on IR, I think, they don't have any legit EDGEs, and they're super-thin at CB. Imo, a lot of their issues have been Bowles' playcalling; he's been playing a ton of zone and he's been reluctant to be aggressive. He's been giving away yards, big plays to TEs, and soft in the RZ. If he calls the game the way he has been over the last 4-5 games, it'll be a cakewalk for KC. I just don't expect him to be that stupid.

Long term. Not over a 1 game sample size.

Oh. You mean, like in 2021, when Baker's best WR was Donovan Peoples-Jones? And he had 7 games with a PR over 90, 4 over 100? With a bad shoulder and an ankle injury?:thumb:

This is not Baker's 2nd season in the league either. And, I'd be willing to bet that Baker won't continue that pace under his current circumstances.

That's true. Experience matters.


And no, I don't think Baker will be able to continue that pace either. Though he probably will get Evans back in a few weeks. But Godwin was the chain-mover in that offense, and they simply don't have anyone else that will fill that void. It would be like if Travis went down with a season-ending injury. There's just no replacing something like that.

If they traded for Kupp it would probably be a different story, but my TB buddy doesn't think they're even trying to get Kupp.

But Coen is extracting the best version of Baker in his scheme, and I think Baker will continue to be successful this season, on a lesser scale.

You just nailed it with Coen... Slowic is green in his position also, and he has not done C.J. any favors. He's basically kept trying to run the same offense with a banged up OL and missing his top WR's. What he needs to do is take a page out of the Chiefs playbook and become more run oriented and move to to short passing game. He has the RB's and he still has Dell, so if the opportunity presents itself, off of having a strong running game, he can take his deep shots. He'd also rest his defense, rather than getting into so many three and out situations. Not to mention he'd save his quarterback from taking hits by getting rid of the ball quicker. Just some of the stuff that we take for granted over here. We know our coaching staff is going to put us in the best position to win games. It may look boring, not as high flying as it used to look, but it's very effective.

The Texans just seem like this year's version of the 2023 Dolphins now.

We'll probably beat them down twice at Arrowhead.

2023 Dolphins put up video game numbers early. Texans have never looked all that impressive this year.

Might be closer to the 2023 Jags that everyone thought would take a huge step forward.

Rest of the AFC South is bad though, so they’ll be a top 4 seed.

Stroud can get a flower suit like Burrow. Marigolds(flower of death) instead of roses

Frauds!

Stroud coming back to Earth.

In the second half they were terrible. However, unless our offense can find some better rhythm before w run into them, HOU is not going to be an easy out. They have good weapons and Stroud is a decent QB. Maybe better than Goff already.

Bump. Looks like they lose another.

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they’ll go 9-8 and still win the division comfortably

it's just the Bills as the threat to us in the AFC

Most likely. But they are not the unstoppable juggernaut that the OP was making them out to be.

oh definitely not, they’re squarely in the “might win a playoff game” tier. we’ll see how the next few weeks go but honestly this Titans loss was predictable and they only seem to be getting worse. i wouldn’t be shocked if they went 8-9

This team could lose to anyone right now.

this team can also win against anyone right now

10 out of 11 ain't bad

The way the defense, and OL has been playing since the Dungver game, any team we face is a threat.

Indeed. AFC South is a joke.

I guess, but we have found ways to win over 90% of them so far

Oh no another rookie QB will have to be the new greatest threat to the NFL

Correct. I hope to god they get their shit together and wreck pussies

Stroud has fallen back down to Earth big time this season.

clay curse goes deep

Yes sir.

Not the way KC is currently playing. Any playoff team would pose some kind of threat IMO.

Break dancers.
https://youtu.be/1Vk_snSsHZY?si=p0CsDIvRuxH-9D9X

ya, everything is close probably should have just said they are the biggest threat. The Chiefs have more experience closing out close games at least. Which probably factors a little at least towards playoff success.

7-5 with a supposedly elite QB is so ****ing mid

In a horrible AFC South division with 6 easy games while also getting to play 3 other awful teams from a really bad division (AFC East).

The Texans are what a lot of this board thinks the Chiefs are

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT

We will expose these frauds in a few weeks.

I toll you Stroud was a tad overrated over the offseason. I told yas

They're a prime example of a good team, that has not been able to deal with adversity very well. It takes more than just being good to win more times than not.

Film is out.

Texans- People from the state of Texas could have it's own forum of stories

Texans lose maybe their best CB for the year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JalenPitre?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JalenPitre</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HoustonTexans</a> <br>Going back over video, apparrent right pectoral tendon tear. Would mean surgery and season over. <a href="https://t.co/BfKreNmPhh">pic.twitter.com/BfKreNmPhh</a></p>&mdash; David J. Chao - ProFootballDoc (@ProFootballDoc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballDoc/status/1861107902016332181?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We are going to rape them.

They stole our nickname. Frauds. They have no rights to that name.

they could miss the playoffs if the titans go on a run or if the colts cobble together 8 wins cuz i could see the texans either losing out or only winning one game

It’s still so funny that Stroud tried to big brother Caleb.

**** Dr. Chao

Not true. Lamar gave his permissoon to use it. Look it up. You should know this.

Wow, that's actually cool.

good info on these frauds we will expose in a few weeks

Jones will destroy their interior LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> left guard Juice Scruggs expected to miss a few games with foot injury, as Kenyon Green returns to practice <a href="https://twitter.com/KPRC2?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KPRC2</a> <a href="https://t.co/HqAnPwL4DB">https://t.co/HqAnPwL4DB</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1866926176457068576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Huge loss for them

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> standout safety Jalen Pitre suffered a torn pectoral and is done for the 2024 season. A tough loss for the Houston defense. <a href="https://t.co/GuVf1Fy51d">pic.twitter.com/GuVf1Fy51d</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1866970960991015139?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We're definitely on a collision course with this team LMAO

https://media.tenor.com/G61MrabZdzUAAAAM/run-escape.gif

texans need to worry about the colts taking their spot. texans have to play us, miami, baltimore, and tennessee. the colts schedule is a joke. they have the broncos, titans, giants, and jags. there is a much higher than zero chance that the texans walk into week 18 at 8-8 and at risk of missing the playoffs.

You still afraid of them?

The Texans remind me of, well, the Texans when they had Deshaun

The scenario I like best this week is that, hopefully, beating the Browns and the Bills potentially losing to Detroit, and the Steelers potentially losing to Philadelphia would put us a full three games ahead of both of them.