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IowaHawkeyeChief 10-24-2024 09:16 PM

Thursday games suck on Prime anyway and the refs make it even worse.

George Liquor 10-24-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17762771)
I think the best evidence that the ref$ steer the games is that there is no booth official who can call obvious crap like that. Nor will there ever be. :shake:

Refs gifted LA a TD in the 1st quarter on a phantom holding call.

PunkinDrublic 10-24-2024 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17762771)
I think the best evidence that the ref$ steer the games is that there is no booth official who can call obvious crap like that. Nor will there ever be. :shake:

If the Chiefs got a non call like that it would break social media.

George Liquor 10-24-2024 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17762768)
I thought he said "Suck it"

Probably said "ship it" referring to his cut from Vegas.

ptlyon 10-24-2024 09:18 PM

It was probably payback for having to listen to that ****ing horn 50 times

notorious 10-24-2024 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17762779)
It was probably payback for having to listen to that ****ing horn 50 times

Game is in LA.

If that happens in Minnesota people would probably come out of the bleachers.

Frazod 10-24-2024 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17762775)
Refs gifted LA a TD in the 1st quarter on a phantom holding call.

I remember that 2018 game against us where they ignored 13 obvious false starts.

The ref$ sure do love those shiny new multibillion dollar stadiums in big market coastal cities.

cdcox 10-24-2024 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17762757)
Swear the ref said "Im Sorry"

He actually said, “Ryan Fitzpatrick would have completed it anyway.”

Chazno 10-24-2024 09:21 PM

I can’t believe the refs letting Mahomes get away with tackling Stafford by his face mask. So rigged!

notorious 10-24-2024 09:21 PM

I'm reminded of the time our Chiefs home crowd made that piece of shit Cheffers cry.

We didn't get a bad call the rest of the game.

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wazu 10-24-2024 09:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The defender put his hands on his heads bc he knew it was a face mask. Can’t make this shit up anymore. ��<br><br>Oh well, NFC North just got tighter. <a href="https://t.co/qJY22jzp4U">https://t.co/qJY22jzp4U</a></p>&mdash; Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) <a href="https://twitter.com/KurtBenkert/status/1849649404585619700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DRM08 10-24-2024 09:38 PM

Safety plays should be treated the same as turnovers and TD’s. Automatic review to see what happened on the play.

PunkinDrublic 10-24-2024 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17762779)
It was probably payback for having to listen to that ****ing horn 50 times

Not so much a horn as it is a cattle call for reeruns

suzzer99 10-24-2024 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17762797)
Safety plays should be treated the same as turnovers and TD’s. Automatic review to see what happened on the play.

They are. But you can't review a facemask call or non-call.

Of course NY can always buzz in. But they didn't feel like it this time I guess.

4th and Long 10-24-2024 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17762797)
Safety plays should be treated the same as turnovers and TD’s. Automatic review to see what happened on the play.

Face mask fouls continue to be not reviewable. It's one of the original safety rules, passed long before the NFL had its epiphany regarding player health.

All scoring plays in the NFL are automatically reviewed:

Replay officials: Confirm all plays that result in a score or turnover, and all try attempts

AMGC staff: Handle coaches' challenges and situations that fall under the NFL's Replay Assist rule

The NFL's replay system also covers:

Pass complete/incomplete/intercepted and Runner/receiver out of bounds.

The NFL's replay system has evolved over time to reduce the impact of reviews on the length of the game. Some of the changes include:

Replay Assistance Rule

Allows replay officials or designated members of the officiating team to assist on-field officials in specific situations

Expedited review

Allows the in-stadium replay official or someone in the league's command center to inform the referee in real time of a clear and obvious mistake
Coaches can still challenge rulings that are not automatically reviewed by replay officials. However, if a coach throws their challenge flag before the replay official or the team in New York make their decision, it becomes a coaches' challenge and their team risks losing that challenge.

In the NFL, the following penalties are reviewable:

Roughing the passer

For the 2024 season, a replay assistant can review roughing the passer penalties that were previously considered judgment calls for officials. The review must be based on objective parameters, such as whether the quarterback was hit in the head.

Intentional grounding

For the 2024 season, a replay assistant can review intentional grounding penalties that were previously considered judgment calls for officials. The review must be based on objective parameters, such as whether the quarterback was out of the pocket.

Other plays that are reviewable in the NFL include:

Scoring plays
Pass complete/incomplete/intercepted
Runner/receiver out of bounds
Recovery of a loose ball in or out of bounds
Touching of a forward pass
Quarterback pass or fumble

WhawhaWhat 10-24-2024 10:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pool report on the face mask that wasn’t called in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsVsRams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsVsRams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsvsRam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsvsRam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#vikings</a> <a href="https://t.co/RKeHYUGlgv">pic.twitter.com/RKeHYUGlgv</a></p>&mdash; Calvin Watkins (@calvinwatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/1849661805586534681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Frazod 10-24-2024 11:07 PM

While the noncall was awful, it probably didn't cost the Vikings the game. They would have still been in some pretty dire straights, needing 80 yards for a touchdown with very little time left and no time outs, plus a two point conversion, just to tie.

Did it suck? Sure. Would I be livid were I a Minnesota fan? Absolutely. But the main reason they lost was that they came in flat after that Detroit loss and got their shit pushed in by a lesser team.

carcosa 10-24-2024 11:42 PM

Refs love the Chiefs so much they helped the Rams beat the Vikings!!!!

BlackHelicopters 10-24-2024 11:43 PM

Vikings got outplayed by a worse team. Sad.

suzzer99 10-25-2024 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17762837)
While the noncall was awful, it probably didn't cost the Vikings the game. They would have still been in some pretty dire straights, needing 80 yards for a touchdown with very little time left and no time outs, plus a two point conversion, just to tie.

Did it suck? Sure. Would I be livid were I a Minnesota fan? Absolutely. But the main reason they lost was that they came in flat after that Detroit loss and got their shit pushed in by a lesser team.

I was walking home from the gym watching on my phone. At least that penalty would have extended the game, and then if they get a few more first downs with a bunch of incomplete passes it would have killed another 10 minutes and I would have had something to watch for the rest of my walk. But no, the refs screwed me out of that. That's the real tragedy.

Fishels 10-25-2024 01:03 AM

Personally I’m glad the refs are visibly making big mistakes in other games. I know people are dumb but it hurts the “refs do anything for the chiefs” arguments people can make

InChiefsHeaven 10-25-2024 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17762864)
I was walking home from the gym watching on my phone. At least that penalty would have extended the game, and then if they get a few more first downs with a bunch of incomplete passes it would have killed another 10 minutes and I would have had something to watch for the rest of my walk. But no, the refs screwed me out of that. That's the real tragedy.

Kids, don't walk and stare at your phone. Especially at night. Good way to get your ass mugged. Or run over.

And that's...one to grow on.

ThaVirus 10-25-2024 06:14 AM

Big no-call at the end but I enjoyed the game.

The Rams feel like a bit of a dark horse. They’re a totally different team when Kupp and Nacua are healthy.

DrunkBassGuitar 10-25-2024 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17762830)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pool report on the face mask that wasn’t called in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsVsRams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsVsRams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsvsRam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsvsRam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#vikings</a> <a href="https://t.co/RKeHYUGlgv">pic.twitter.com/RKeHYUGlgv</a></p>&mdash; Calvin Watkins (@calvinwatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/1849661805586534681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

huh? you'd think on a play like that you'd make sure to have 1 person with a clear view of the QB and following where the ball is

displacedinMN 10-25-2024 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17762846)
Refs love the Chiefs so much they helped the Rams beat the Vikings!!!!

That is what the 8th grade boys will say---no offense.

But, yeah, chiefs get all the calls. :doh!:

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 06:40 AM

Vikings are officially.....FRAUDS

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17762771)
I think the best evidence that the ref$ steer the games is that there is no booth official who can call obvious crap like that. Nor will there ever be. :shake:

How is it possible the ufl/xfl could figure out how to fix obvious blown calls efficiently and the NFL with all those resources can't. You are exactly right. They SIMPLY DON'T WANT to.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17762830)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pool report on the face mask that wasn’t called in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsVsRams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsVsRams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/VikingsvsRam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#VikingsvsRam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#vikings</a> <a href="https://t.co/RKeHYUGlgv">pic.twitter.com/RKeHYUGlgv</a></p>&mdash; Calvin Watkins (@calvinwatkins) <a href="https://twitter.com/calvinwatkins/status/1849661805586534681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They "see what they WANT to see"

PHOG 10-25-2024 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17762909)
huh? you'd think on a play like that you'd make sure to have 1 person with a clear view of the QB and following where the ball is

They should have shown that imbecile (the ref) the replay right then and there showing the ref looking right at the facemask, especially as Darnold almost had his head twisted off. But, oh well.....just fire the incompetent POS.

kysirsoze 10-25-2024 06:58 AM

Non-call was bad, but what's really bad and kinda concerning is the inconsistent use of New York calling in to correct certain calls. To be clear I don't think they're steering games, but it is just really uneven when it comes to deciding when they have to honor the call on the field and when they have to get it right.

Frazod 10-25-2024 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17762952)
Non-call was bad, but what's really bad and kinda concerning is the inconsistent use of New York calling in to correct certain calls. To be clear I don't think they're steering games, but it is just really uneven when it comes to deciding when they have to honor the call on the field and when they have to get it right.

It's kind of like Pete Rose betting on himself to win, but only sometimes.

DrunkBassGuitar 10-25-2024 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17762949)
They should have shown that imbecile (the ref) the replay right then and there showing the ref looking right at the facemask, especially as Darnold almost had his head twisted off. But, oh well.....just fire the incompetent POS.

yeah I mean like "we didn't see it" is kind of weird when your job is to see it. like okay you can't call every hold but you can't say that so you say "oh we didn't see a hold", but a QB getting facemasked and you call it a safety? you obviously saw him go down but you didn't see how he went down, that doesn't really make sense to me

kstater 10-25-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17762909)
huh? you'd think on a play like that you'd make sure to have 1 person with a clear view of the QB and following where the ball is

Exactly https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...817e87ebd9.jpg

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scho63 10-25-2024 07:57 AM

Just horrible that ref took away the chance to tie.

FloridaMan88 10-25-2024 07:58 AM

They should make a select category of penalties reviewable by the Sky Judge.

Objective penalties such as face mask.

Keep subjective/judgement calls like pass interference as the ultimate call of the on field refs.

Garcia Bronco 10-25-2024 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17763019)
They should make a select category of penalties reviewable by the Sky Judge.

Objective penalties such as face mask.

Keep subjective/judgement calls like pass interference as the ultimate call of the on field refs.

No. It doesn't need to get sliced and diced and made even more f****** complicated. Any call they can review it. Any call.

Kiimo 10-25-2024 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17762870)
Personally I’m glad the refs are visibly making big mistakes in other games. I know people are dumb but it hurts the “refs do anything for the chiefs” arguments people can make



Can you imagine


The gnashing of teeth if that was us instead of the Rams.


I'm sure it's been said in this thread a bunch but it's all I could think about.



Hoping all the Bengals fans are making videos about how the REFS! are in the bag for the Rams.

Because it makes way more sense to try and prop up Los Angeles and Sofi than it ever did KC

DrunkBassGuitar 10-25-2024 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 17762961)
Exactly https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...817e87ebd9.jpg

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complete mystery what is happening here

scho63 10-25-2024 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17763019)
They should make a select category of penalties reviewable by the Sky Judge.

Objective penalties such as face mask.

Keep subjective/judgement calls like pass interference as the ultimate call of the on field refs.

Simpler to solve - every team gets 1 penalty challenge a game and if they win it, they get one more. 2 a game max.

Mile High Mania 10-25-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17763043)
complete mystery what is happening here

From that view, why would you think face mask?

Nirvana58 10-25-2024 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17763055)
From that view, why would you think face mask?

Maybe because half a second later he tried to twist his head off?

DrunkBassGuitar 10-25-2024 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17763055)
From that view, why would you think face mask?

because darnold is brought down by his facemask

suzzer99 10-25-2024 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 17762888)
Kids, don't walk and stare at your phone. Especially at night. Good way to get your ass mugged. Or run over.

And that's...one to grow on.

Nobody's getting mugged in my neighborhood. Also I can stare at my phone and still be aware of my surroundings. ADHD has some advantages.

And worse case scenario they can have my 7-year-old iPhone X and airpods. Because that's all I carry with me to the gym.

Getting run over by a car is a real hazard, and I do keep an eye out for that.

Garcia Bronco 10-25-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17763046)
Simpler to solve - every team gets 1 penalty challenge a game and if they win it, they get one more. 2 a game max.

No. This has nothing to do with the teams. This is the referee/league policing themselves in essence. I don't know why people are hung up you get one / two challenges three challenges only four but if you get one of them wrong you get none.

Every play.

St. Patty's Fire 10-25-2024 08:50 AM

didnt see this game but expected the rams to win, vikings are obvious frauds

wazu 10-25-2024 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17763019)
They should make a select category of penalties reviewable by the Sky Judge.

Objective penalties such as face mask.

Keep subjective/judgement calls like pass interference as the ultimate call of the on field refs.

Well - and this one was even a scoring play. Those are reviewed anyway, right? Completely unreasonable that you would review that play but not be able to fix it.

PHOG 10-25-2024 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17763055)
From that view, why would you think face mask?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana58 (Post 17763059)
Maybe because half a second later he tried to twist his head off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 17763087)
because darnold is brought down by his facemask

These! Even the Rams player was shamefully holding his head that he committed the foul. But Baghdad Bob comes to mind, nothing to see here.

scho63 10-25-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17763111)
No. This has nothing to do with the teams. This is the referee/league policing themselves in essence. I don't know why people are hung up you get one / two challenges three challenges only four but if you get one of them wrong you get none.

Every play.

I have no idea what you're trying to convey.

The NFL doesn't give a ****. Teams do. Need to have teams hold refs accountable and reverse a bad call or non-call.

Can't turn game into 100 challenges or else they will be out there for 6 hours.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 10:40 AM

I read EIGHTY PERCENT of the money was on the Vikes last night. Interesting the way that game was called and the officials comments afterwards

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17763046)
Simpler to solve - every team gets 1 penalty challenge a game and if they win it, they get one more. 2 a game max.

They TRIED that with PI. Almost NOTHING got overturned. Even obvious stuff

Chief Pagan 10-25-2024 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17763019)
They should make a select category of penalties reviewable by the Sky Judge.

Objective penalties such as face mask.

Keep subjective/judgement calls like pass interference as the ultimate call of the on field refs.

I think the calls that are reviewable by the Sky Judge are clearly spelled out and face mask is not one of them.

I think a blatant face mask, like this one should be, but currently it is not.

A ball that clearly bounces off the turf can be overruled and called incomplete but one that bobbles slightly going to/hitting the ground would take a full review.

If face mask was reviewable, they could have reviewed it both because it was under two minutes and the safety was a score.

Not sure the rational for face mask not being reviewable. Seems pretty straight forward.

If only it had been Josh Allen, I'm sure a rule change would be upcoming...

Pasta Little Brioni 10-25-2024 12:23 PM

Again, the XFL does it perfectly and fixed a ton of blown calls. They COULD do it, the just don't WANT to. Too much money on the line to get things RIGHT

Megatron96 10-25-2024 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17763566)
Again, the XFL does it perfectly and fixed a ton of blown calls. They COULD do it, the just don't WANT to. Too much money on the line to get things RIGHT



I noticed that about the XFL officiating as well last year. And wondered why the NFL couldn’t duplicate that.

htismaqe 10-25-2024 01:36 PM

The best part of all of this? 49er fans somehow involving the Chiefs in all of it.

KCUnited 10-25-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishels (Post 17762870)
Personally I’m glad the refs are visibly making big mistakes in other games. I know people are dumb but it hurts the “refs do anything for the chiefs” arguments people can make

https://i.imgur.com/PhPP8St.jpg

htismaqe 10-25-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17763738)

Exactly. A good half of all the comments I've seen on this play mention the Chiefs. It's hilarious. And insane.

New World Order 10-25-2024 02:13 PM

Remember all the crying over the replacement refs?

These guys are just as bad

displacedinMN 10-25-2024 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17763742)
Exactly. A good half of all the comments I've seen on this play mention the Chiefs. It's hilarious. And insane.

That is insane. Not to be too political--- but if that is the case, we are not a serious society or a sane society. Brains are fried.

Those above that are being overrun by those below it.

Carlin-“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"


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