lol, seriously? You think our overall record is relevant to the conversation?

We almost lost to a decimated TB sporting the 29th defense in the NFL.

We did lose to BUF.

We scored just 16 pts on DEN.

We nearly lost to CAR one of the worst teams in the league.

I don’t know why any of that needs repeating. And weren’t you one of the ones that said CAR was going to be a’get-right’ game for us? Did it feel like a ‘get-right’ game during our 6th and 7th drives when we went 14 plays for 5 yds? Against one of the worst defenses in the league? Actually, the worst scoring defense in the NFL?

And the simple fact is that the offense is much more efficient when DHop is on the field than if he’s not. And he needs as many game reps as possible in situational packages as possible before the playoffs, SO THAT THE OFFENSE CAN BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, wouldn’t we all agree?

You know, so that when we’re playing the best teams/defenses, our best WR can actually be on the field helping the offense score points instead of jerking off on the sidelines because JWat is so valuable with his 1.8 catches/game?


I’d rather DHop get all the necessary reps to be at his best, instead of saving a potential 4th rd pick, because I’d rather win another SB. Crazy, I guess.

I said this several pages ago, but there is a reason. He's one of the oldest WRs in the league. They need to be careful with his snaps, especially with this condensed schedule coming up.

Dhop gets the game ball. 4-90 plus two big PI for 46. Loved the one hander on the overthrow that didn't count. So fun to watch every week.

Gray and Worthy also had nice games again. Pat threw for 306.

He’s been awesome.

That drop was crazy weird, though lol did NOT expect that from him.

I would give the game ball to Bolton, dude balled out today. I was criticizing him early on in the season and he's making me eat my words and they are tasty

Assuming that they are load managing him for the playoffs… because he needs more targets/usage.

This ****ing guy, he's just coming along like he's been here for years

Already proving he's not just some intermediate option, he's proving again and again he can get deep... and if he doesn't nab the pass, he can at least draw a flag

I want him here next year, bigly

Yea, but if he hits a wide open Dhop in the back of the endzone, its game over and he throws for 321. It was one of the few attempts where he had time. Frustrating.

I'm rewatching the game, and D-hop got mugged at the 3. PI flagged, and we get the ball at the 13. WTF?

he came in and immediately made a difference.

He must be a genius because it takes other receivers years to learn Andy Reid's playbook.

Yeah, he was open open. Not sure how Pat missed that one.

Mahomes wouldn’t be making these same throws to any other receiver he’s ever played with.

He’s giving Hopkins a chance with a lot of these, and that’s a new thing.

Just thinking about DHop and a healthy post suspension Rice both just eating all game and what will it take to make that happen

I’d throw Brown into that equation as well, our WR core will look really solid next season!

During the game I felt like Hopkins was seeing the field more. This morning I checked. Deandre’s snap count: 42, 62.6%.

****Official Deandre Hopkins Thread****
 

I had him around 650-700 based on about 60 ypg.

Right now he is at 325 yards, 54 ypg, and 3 TDs.

He’s on pace for 596 yards and 5-6 TDs. That’s with the low snap counts. I still think these numbers will go up though, especially assuming the LT play improves with Humphries.

You can’t tell me that the Chiefs are not wanting that 4th rd pick guys. The condition is 60% of the snaps to move from a 5th to 4th.

He played 59% yesterday.

Someone is absolutely monitoring this LMAO

I hadn't realized he was the third oldest WR playing right now. The way he moved and accelerated after Mahomes hit him up the sideline sure didn't make him look like a guy that would hold that title in the league.

It's becoming apparent they're holding him back for the draft pick. It's kind of shitty for the Titans and even Hop himself (even though we're under no directive to make life easy for Nashville), but we're still winning while doing it (even if just barely). I'm really looking forward to seeing him fully utilized in the playoffs with weeks of studying this offense and Mahomes' tendencies under his belt, not to mention the possibility of Hollywood out there making life even more easy for him.

That's inane if true.

And it doesn't jibe with the moves they've made so far. They mended fences with Kareem and brought him back. Then they went out and got DHop, an 'over-30 WR.' Then they recently sign DJ Humphries to try and stop the bleeding at LT, and the word is they plan on starting him as soon as next week.


They're obviously going all-in on the threepeat. But they're also making sure DHop doesn't go over 60% of offensive snaps so they can protect a 4th rd pick? Are Veach/Andy mentally unstable? I just don't believe that.

They’re trying to thread the needle here. The team has to sustain itself through the draft at this point and Veach has excelled at mid round picks. Every missed pick comes at an incredible cost for us keeping this ship going, and with Kelce’s retirement looming and huge contract decisions on the horizon (Bolton, Smith, McDuffie, an LT?, Rice, etc), Veach has to constantly be thinking about the longterm.

Plot twist. They are using you to monitor it.

D-Hop isn't realistically going to be playing more than 75% of the snaps at this point anyway.

Docking him 15% in a given game doesn't move the needle, especially given his age and the need to keep him healthy for the postseason.

I’m willing to bet the Chiefs offer him a deal to come back, due to the Rice fiasco. I’m almost certain Watson, Moore and JJSS won’t be back. Hollywood may get another 1 year deal if he recovers post injury. Hopkins, Brown, Worthy, will be on the 53 with Washington, Remigio, Thornton vying from the practice squad.

I'm not even saying he should see 75% of snaps/gm. But I think it makes a ton of sense for him to see at least 60% considering just how much more efficient the offense is overall when he's on the field.


But whatever. I guess we'll just see how it plays out.

Yep his value is clear, we don't have anyone else who can do what he does

I'd be okay with this as long as they grab real talent in the draft to complement D-Hop, Rice, Worthy, and Brown. Would also not be opposed to Watson sticking around for depth - he knows the offense and by all indications Reid loves him.

This guy is a hell of a hired gun. Embracing the culture.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeZxRazW...pg&name=medium

Awesome. LOL.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> pass game coordinator Joe Bleymaier: &quot;DeAndre (Hopkins) has a bunch of plays from his past that we haven&#39;t necessarily used a ton of, but we&#39;re just bringing them back (to the offense).&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1867275823150960775?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

JWat and JJSS would be back at the right price.

No way the Chiefs are cutting Justin Watson LMAO

Tom Brady and Randy Moss seemed to have a special TD play that worked a lot. Need to save that shit for the playoffs!

His contract is up. It wouldn't be a cut. Best thing would be a vet min tbh

Well I think they are trying to make sure he's healthy for the playoffs run. He had the 4th most snaps (34 snaps or 45%) among WRs this week. Worthy, Watson, and Juju all had more than him.

What other reason would there be?

45% LMAO

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Dude mentoring our WRs might be worth more than his catches.

YES.

I’m pretty sure Worthy has been mimicking at least one of Nuk’s releases already. It’s a huge part of why I wanted DHop in the first place two years ago. And imagine how much Rice would learn from his idol if Veach found a way to keep Hopkins around for a season or two.

Hopefully he comes back to the Chiefs next season.

Hopkins is the new Kelce

People here thought he’d be a cancer

But **** it, he about to earn his ring

Who thought Hopkins would be a cancer?

Cancer is probably too strong but just skip to the moment when he signed with Tennessee

https://work.chiefsplanet.com/BB/sho...postcount=3691

Had this site on dark mode for so long that it feels like I’m staring at the sun in light mode. Pretty sure I just scorched my retinas.

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REally hope we bring Dhop back on like a 2 year deal. His hands are about as close to automatic as it gets and his mentoring is something the rest of the WR room needs.

29 snaps LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfubVaIX...pg&name=medium

I think it’s a little deranged the way they handled his snaps. But it luckily worked out anyway.


I also think it’s kind of a shame he won’t get anywhere near 1000 yds/season over a potential 4th rd pick.

I hope he decides to return next season, but I won’t be surprised if he chooses to go to a team that actually gives him a chance to do what he does best, instead of making him play decoy all the time.

Nuk has stats already.

He wants rings.

Got a feeling we've been seriously sandbagging on DHop for a multitude of reasons. To keep him fresh, to give him a chance to learn the offense, to save the 4th round pick, and to not foreshadow to teams what a big role he's going to play in the playoffs.

In a win or go home game such as the AFC Championship, I still think the best use of our weapons is this.


Hollywood and Worthy threaten deep.


If the other team comes out with any formation where the safeties are not a million miles from the LOS, send everyone deep and let Mahomes bomb away until the other team changes coverage to shell.


Then pepper intermediate area of the field to Kelce, D Hop, and JuJu for 8-12 yards a play along with some IPAC/Hunt. You can even do some Worthy end arounds and LOS stuff too, once the other team is backed off.

Basically we run the 2022 Chiefs offense on steroids because instead of MVS we have Worthy/Hollywood and instead of Kelce/JuJu we have Kelce/D Hop/JuJu.

Couldn't agree more...

https://media.tenor.com/J5A9wZzn3ZYA...ah-johnson.gif

With the right match-up, I feel like Hopkins can eat up defenses with back shoulder throws

A good plan that LT throws a monkey wrench in.

But this should be the vibe for sure.

Can you imagine this team with an elite LT LMAO

I do think we see a lot of 2 high in the playoffs.

The plan will be to make us work for it, because you gotta get a turnover to beat the Chiefs, especially with the defense LEADING THE LEAGUE in points allowed again. LMAO

Hopefully we see a lot more snaps for D-Hop and Hollywood in the Playoffs. Combine them with Kelce and Xavier. Good luck trying to cover everyone.

Wanya had 1 too many snaps.

If the other team backs off into shell, the LT only needs to hold up long enough for Mahomes to throw a pass ten yards down the field.

In 2022 that was Orlando Brown Jr. I think Thuney is equal to that as far as holding up long enough for that to happen.


The only long passes that need to take place are for punishing teams who try anything other than 2 deep safeties and zone coverage on us.

On a team that treats the regular season as a practice, it is the best move you can make. Kudos to whoever made the decision. Probably my main man Darth Veech.

Despite coming over via trade during the season, Hopkins is still within striking distance of earning some extra cash. Although his snap percentages in Kansas City have been lower than expected (51%), other volume-based possibilities remain on the table. Hopkins, who has 56 receptions for 610 yards and five touchdowns this season, is one big game away from making as much as $1 million combined in Week 18.

With nine receptions in Denver, Hopkins would hit a $250,000 benchmark for 65 on the year. The same is true if he amasses 140 receiving yards, which would get him to 750 overall and earn another $250,000. Last, but certainly not least, Hopkins needs just one receiving touchdown to get to six this season and earn a whopping $500,000.

Still freaks me out that’s Robert Redford in that gif

Yeah, remember some of those bonuses were stipulated when he was signed, which is part of the reason I haven’t been happy about his snaps. It’s like they purposefully prevented him from getting his $$$. I realize that’s probably not the case, it it does look that way based on how they restricted his usage.

3 weeks might do DeAndre's knee a lot of good.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#2 DeAndre Hopkins LESS THAN 43.5 yards<br><br>Believe it or not - he ran less routes than Justin Watson &amp; JuJu last week for the Chiefs.<br><br>There’s a chance Hopkins is still being limited by the tear in his knee he suffered before the season.<br><br>I’ll keep betting against him here…</p>&mdash; Sal Bets (@salbets_) <a href="https://twitter.com/salbets_/status/1862498904920527158?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude. I just learned that Dark Mode was a thing... I've never seen it. Now my eyes can relax... thanks for the tip. But just the tip.

I don’t see Reid feeding Hopkins enough for 9 receptions/140 yards, but I would be surprised if Hopkins isn’t in for a shot or two in the end zone.

No way Hopkins plays. We worrying about getting rest for our playoff run. Not stats.

Hopkins is 1 TD from a 500k incentive, so they probably asked him if it matters, if he says yes he'll get some red zone snaps.

Important to remember that Chris Jones played in our meaningless final game against the Chargers last year.

It was stupid for him to play. They should have just paid the bonus but probably wasn't in the cards after him sitting out the first game with his contract dispute.

Hopefully Hopkins cares more about getting a ring than paid at this point.

Hopkins shouldn't play. Just for his snap counts reasons. Pay him the bonus. Save his snaps for when it counts.

There’s some evidence to suggest Clark is a tightwad about these things.

Use the 500K in bargaining power for another year contract. They need to get one of DHop or Hollywood to come back next year and offering that on top of a contract without having to play might move the needle.

Receiver position is cursed this year. Last thing I want to see are the starters out there running routes in a meaningless game for a backup QB. That's just asking for injury and darkness and a re-activated Skyy Moore in the playoffs.

We let Jones run around like a crazy man to get a million bucks last year…

Yep... Hopkins will play whether we like it or not

Hopkins had a grade 1 MCL tear I read. grade 1 medial collateral ligament (MCL) tear, which is considered minor, usually heals within 1–3 weeks. Treatment for a grade 1 MCL tear may include: Rest, Ice, Anti-inflammatory medicine, and Crutches for a short time.
The time it takes to heal an MCL tear depends on the severity of the injury:
Grade 2 (moderate) tear: Usually takes 4–6 weeks to heal
Grade 3 (severe) tear: Can take 6 weeks or more to heal, and may require surgery

He is not injured.

That's my thought as well. I know it isn't my money, so this is easy to say, but pay him the $1M and let him rest. Best of both worlds. If he contributes to a SB win, they will make that money back easily.

Just pay the 500k to have more snaps available in the playoffs and keep the higher pick in the trade option is worth it. Not to mention just having a rested and ready hopkins for the super bowl. 500k for another trophy in dads case?

I didn't know there was any confusion on that until that person made a reel about it that went viral.

I guess I'm one of the few that watched that movie in school?

The Chiefs letting Jones get his bonus is something a lot of players consider player friendly, some teams go out of their way to not pay incentives so them allowing him to get it is good will.