So he can play great in BOTH the regular season and post season and is just choosing not to? Interesting.


It's going to be hilarious when he gets back to his normal self in the regular season and you have to pretend that you don't care. Or do you think he'll be a 20TD 10+INT checkdown artist the rest of his career in regular season?

I only urinate in the finest crystal meth

Do I think Mahomes’ effort and focus level the last two regular seasons has been as high as it is in the postseason?

Anybody who watches him play knows the answer to that.

His regular season numbers will improve when he gets a real LT and a full set of WRs again. there’s no doubt. From a sheer production perspective, they will clearly improve. I’m still not gonna give a single shit about that when it happens though.

The only thing that matters for this franchise at this point in this era is January.

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"He's playing better . . .?"

Uh huh. Because his QBR says so? Got it.:thumb:

A significantly better QBR.

It’s better than whining about a QB not throwing for big passing numbers on a low possession running team without any context whatsoever. Because I can’t think of anything I could give a shit about less.

There is no way he's playing better this year. Last year we had the most drops in NFL history since like 2017. They catch those it looks alot different last year during the regular season.

QBR takes the drops into account. He is playing better than last year from an efficiency perspective. The counting numbers just aren’t there because of the low possession-run based offense.

Please advise exactly how QBR is calculated.

Pats aggressiveness rating, eg throwing into tight coverage, is also worst of his career.

"Context"?ROFL

Wtf are you talking about, cuz? I think you need to look up the meaning of that word.

Yes, context.

Maybe we should look to trade him for Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. They have the guts we need in the regular season.

You did not advise.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...oved-qb-rating

I did. And have done so again.

It’s a terrible take because you give one stat they are essentially equal in, even though Mahomes beats him in said stat 3 of 4 times in full seasons, and basically everything else, whether in a 5 season average or season by season basis, Mahomes is better in. Your question is especially stupid because I’m literally here saying Mahomes is better in the post season AND regular season.

Me: Mahomes is the best QB in the last five years in the regular season, and what makes him so great is he continues that level in the post season better than anyone, while managing the game perfectly.

You: Allen is better in the regular season. BuT I bEt YoU wOuLd tAkE MaHoMeS oVeR AlLeN!

Lol, please show the formula for calculating QBR, not some broad definition without specifics. Thanks.

Seth Keysor sees what we see...
 

Says the guy who says Allen is better in the regular season since 2020 despite all the stats and wins (besides rushing yards) being in Mahomes favor. I’m sure you totally would have said this after the 2023 Super Bowl victory.

Again, it wasn’t a take. Josh Allen has a better QBR than Patrick Mahomes in the regular season since 2020. You can try to spin that as many times and in as many ways as you want but it won’t change that fact.

He isn’t and it hasn’t even been close the last two seasons. I’ll ask again, though, who are you taking come playoff time between the two despite that? And if it is Mahomes, why?

Josh Allen has been the better regular season QB since 2020, yes. That is heavily weighted by Mahomes’ last two seasons being much worse than Allen’s but it again doesn’t change that fact.

Guess who I’m still taking to manage a playoff game in a few months though?

If you don’t want to do your reading, that’s not on me.

I think mahomes had a higher qbr than Allen on Sunday lol.

Who has more passing yards, TDs, completion %, wins, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, higher passer rating?

You are truly taking this very hard that Mahomes needs to play better. Again your question is so stupid it’s hard to fathom.

Josh Allen is the bills problem?

Chase Daniel in his chiefs bills review said mahomes played well.

But I have to defer to Seth keysor, sorry. Chase Daniel

So I presume from that answer you are taking Mahomes despite the fact that Josh Allen destroys his regular season numbers the last two years? If so, why?

I have. Several times in the past. Because I wanted to calculate it for myself. But there's several pieces that aren't given in that little explanation ESPN gives, so you can't calculate it for yourself. At least, not based on that description they give.

But if you think you can do the math, based on that description, by all means, let's see the work. Or, at least, let's see the equation(s).

What I can say is there’s never been a group of fans more spoiled than the Chiefs fans trashing Patrick Mahomes in the middle of a 9-1 season coming off B2B SBs because he lost a November game to the Bills (and I had to witness the entire Patriots dynasty).

Just pathetic stuff.

His only motivation for this idiocy is to run cover for Mahomes needing to play better. In his mind, it looks better if Mahomes “could” play better but is choosing not to and thus this means Mahomes doesn’t care, and apparently that’s a good explanation for his poor play.

Not to argue, but what KCC is saying that the rest of us (including most of the professional analysts out there) shouldn't believe our lying eyes when the tape quite clearly says Pat isn't playing very well, because "QBR."

So if Mahomes truly is just worse than Josh Allen in the regular season now (as he has been quite clearly for two seasons running), why are you still taking him in the playoffs?

Why not go with the guy who has had 2 dominant regular seasons in a row?

To be more accurate, I believe I’m effectively saying both of those things.

Now Allen is having a dominating season even though he isn’t top 5 in any stat besides maybe one? You are truly a clown. I’ll repeat.

Me: Mahomes is better in the regular and post season.

You: well why aren’t you taking Allen in the post season?

QBRs above 70 the last two seasons is pretty dominant, no? It certainly is compared to what Mahomes has done in 2023 and 2024 at least.

Why are you taking Mahomes in the postseason over Allen given that?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest QBR in a Super Bowl-winning postseason since 2006<br><br>1. 2019 Patrick Mahomes - 89.1<br>2. 2009 Drew Brees - 87.9<br>3. 2023 Patrick Mahomes - 86.6<br>4. 2010 Aaron Rodgers - 85.2<br>5. 2022 Patrick Mahomes - 84.0<br>6. 2017 Nick Foles - 83.5<br>7. 2012 Joe Flacco - 83.6<br><br>3 of the top 5, eh?</p>&mdash; Scott Kacsmar (@ScottKacsmar) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottKacsmar/status/1756930389480800268?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I wonder what Mahomes’ regular season QBR was in 2023 in comparison

Uh huh, that's great, considering that ESPN's "two analysts" might literally be two interns jerking each other off in the break room for all you know. Solid reasoning there. I can see now how you arrived at the fallacious conclusion that LeBron was the GOAT.


Carry on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes has played 17 postseason games, effectively another full season in the playoffs. His stats…<br><br>• 14-3 record<br>• 422/626 (67.4%)<br>• 4,802 passing yards<br>• 458 rushing yards<br>• 39 passing TDs<br>• 5 rushing TDs<br>• 7 INTs<br><br>Witnessing greatness. <a href="https://t.co/DYoB7Tx2iS">pic.twitter.com/DYoB7Tx2iS</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1751956433564794897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, Mahomes doesn’t turn it on in the playoffs. Not at all.

KC Connect putting in work.

Can't let these vultures and cowards repeatedly trash the best thing that ever happened to this franchise because he's not completing a few long passes in November.

His QBR this year is 67.0, last year was 63.9

Supposedly 70.0 is considered MVP level play.