Not the point of my post, at all. We shit the bed several times during the regular season last year. So much so, that we had to play two road playoff games. Again, how did that turn out? I’m well aware of why they’re saying it, I just think they’re fools to consider us the same as any other ‘lucky’ team in the NFL.

Yeah so call the Broncos and Raiders losses as those were pretty damn lucky... and then throw in the Falcons with the missed DPI in the end zone.

You could pick other close games, but then it gets kind of dumb because the Chiefs win a ton of close games... but those are definitely extreme.

So, now they're 8-4 just like last year... :shrug:

We’ve seen teams get bounced that have had success in close games and then lose in the playoffs. We’ve seen dominant teams lose. We’ve seen just about every damn situation. Why is this an issue now?

Last year's offensive personnel was far worse. Rice was great as a rookie but he was very limited in his route tree. Then we had Sky Moore, Toney as the supposed guys to step up and MVS was awful.

It was so bad that Justin Watson was the featured WR in a key game against Philly.

You can't expect every year to be the same but yeah - Chiefs do have a good track record in the playoffs.

Anyone counting us out is making a big mistake

Excellent post! :thumb:

I don't think anyone is acting like we're frauds. They are doubting us because of the issues we have as a team and because we got extremely lucky to win 3 of those 11 times. If we're sitting at 8-4, we're fighting for the division, sitting as a potential 5-7 seed in the playoffs and everyone is singing a different tune.

The issues are pretty clear. We can't cover very well while simultaneously not getting to the QB on defense, which means we're not going to stop the top QBs/offenses very well come playoffs unless we can get better production there.

We are sucking ass at protecting our own QB which means that no matter how much better his weapons might be, he isn't getting it to them. We're relying on the run game more than ever to support the offense and help shrink the time our defense is on the field, which we all know is not a recipe for success in the playoffs as a rule.

There are questions. Dismissing them as if they don't matter is stupid. Believing we can overcome them based on history is warranted but a few chips might have to fall the right way going forward, the most important of which is DJ Humphries being a significant improvement at LT. The next most important thing might be Omenihu returning and providing a significant return.

If Pat has to go into the playoffs running for his life behind Wanya Morris, I'm going to be really concerned. If we don't get more pressure on QBs and better coverage on the back end, especially from our safeties/nickle, I'm concerned. We're hoping for a couple of guys coming off of injury to be the saviors on those fronts. That's a tall order, but maybe the stars will align.

Here's another idiot to add to the list...

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Rep for facts. Last season, the issue was clear: our WRs sucked. Everything else was at least okay, and the defense/STs were great.

This year, it's not the WRs (though the injuries to both Hollywood and Rice were huge), but we have serious issues at OT and a problem at RG, we can't rush the passer, we can't cover TEs, and our secondary is giving up a lot more big plays. We've endured a rash of injuries unprecedented in the Mahome's' era. Then to top it off, Mahomes has not been close to his MVP-level self once this season.

Bottom line, there's a lot more problems this year than last, and that's more concerning. And we're trying to do the impossible, threepeat. In the face of all of that, it just feels like a bigger, tougher mountain to climb.

He's been a hater for a while tbh and a Ravens and Lamar groupie smh.

We lost six games. Putting it down to just the receivers is way too simplistic


1. We have a proven LT about to step in

2. That RG has proven himself on the biggest stage. Mentioning him is like mentioning Mahomes playing poorly. What's the point?

3. We just got three sacks and our second best rusher has returned.

4. The issue has beeb mainly Johnson giving up big plays. He's been benched now
5. Good TE's get their's. The average TE's have not hurt KC


He's been very good since Hopkins arrived.


Imo this is a silly take. Last year WE LOST FIVE IN OUT GAMES!!...got embarrassed by Denver, embarrassed by the Raiders, out fought at Greenbay and gave away games vs the Lions and Eagles. How the hell is this year "worse"?? Smh

Not going through all of this again.

You're talking about final results, I'm talking about efficiency/performance, again. You want to believe that the team is better than last season, and ignore the fact that we're giving up more points and more chunk plays and the fact that Pat even with DHop is still struggling, go right ahead.

And Trey has been struggling, Schwartz and Baldinger have pointed it out.

My point is that there are more issues this year, starting with injuries, when we were largely injury-free last year. OL performance is worse. The defense is giving up about 3-4 points more, etc.

again, you want to pretend those aren't happening, whatever. I can only bring the donkey to water, I can't make you drink it.

LOL so the final result doesn't matter because YOU want everything to be perfect and act like mistakes and some bad performances aren't part and parcel of a normal season? Smh ROFL . And you're wrong about Pat struggling since Hop arrived. 13 td's, just 3 ints, good passer rating and more yards simply don't agree with your notion.


Actually they've pointed out how much Taylor had made Smith's job so much harder. Acting like "Smith is a problem" is just silly to me. He's far from a big problem imo.


The biggest "issue" a team can have is LOSING games. Therefore suggesting this team is worse this season is crazy. Last year we couldn't score and at times the defense had rough games against Denver and Greenbay. So let's be realistic about what happened.


I don't need to pretend about anything. Last regular season this team was in the middle of losing 5 in 8 games at this time last year. If you think that was great then OK buddy :thumb:

2.3 more ppg than this point last season... they had also on average played worse offenses (17th) versus this season it's 15. Four top 10 offenses so far this season to 3 at this point last season. Seven offenses that were 20th or worse last season, three so far this season.

There's probably some recency bias when they give up 27 to the Panthers and 30 to the Bills, but people weren't real kind to them when they had just given up 27 to the Packers this time last year and 24 in Denver.

Burrow didn't jump into the way back machine for that hair style. It's Rex's style Joe is imitating

I didn't say last season was great. I said there were fewer problems to overcome. The defense was elite last season; we rode their performances all season while the offense struggled. This season the defense isn't as good. We allowed a beat-up hamstrung TB to come into Arrowhead and score 17 2nd half points to tie it up. thank God they were sporting the 29th ranked defense at the time so Pat could just drive it down for a TD so we could escape with that W.


And we won vs. DEN because of STs, basically a DEN blocker was shitty at his job that Toub saw on film. Otherwise, we lose that game, because when we needed it, the defense couldn't stop Bo Pix and the DEN offense from moving the ball all the way down inside our 20-yd line or whatever.

Then we let CAR score 27 on us. The 31st ranked offense at the time, scoring less than 20 points/gm, until we showed up.

Then we stumble bass-ackwards into a W vs. LVR because their rookie C snapped the ball early but the refs decide the flag was for illegal motion. So we win on a technicality, because again they were in FG range. Against a 2-9 team with AOC leading them at QB.




So, again, while the record suggests we're dominant, the actual performances do not agree. Our defense isn't as dominant as it was last season, period. They aren't bad/terrible, but they aren't as solid. Shocking, since we lost Sneed and Gay, and then Watson got hurt early in the season.

And while Pat has been better since DHop arrived, let's not pretend he's been great. His PR since DHop showed up has only risen to around 90. So slightly better than average. And even with DHop, Pat has shown some poor judgement, not even including that throw into triple coverage. HE's just gotten away with it more recently than he did early in the season.


But whatever. Believe whatever you want to believe. Fr the record, I hope I'm wrong about this team this season. I hated being right about them last season.

I'm not following... what could anyone possibly "hate being right about" last season?

When a team loses five out of eight games, and get embarrassed multiple times, I simply cannot agree that there were less problems to overcome. Last season's defense let ZACH WILSON look good. Got lit up by Russell Wilson's Denver who had one of the worst offenses that season. Let Jordan Love march up and down the field and even Bailey Zappe had a respectable day against us for a terrible Patriots team. But apparently you think that defense were the 85 Bears every week....


Lol Denver scored a massive FOURTEEN POINTS, were given a short field on their last drive and were shut out in three of the four quarters but you want to blame the defense? :LOL:


See Zach Wilson and Bailey Zappe comment above. Last year's defense let bad QB's get points too. And btw Car were held to field goals for the majority of the game.


Last season WE LOST AT HOME TO THEM in embarrassing fashion. But apparently winning this time is worse right?


As stated by Bearcat above. This defense has faced tougher opposition than it did last year. And still the points difference is only 2 points worse. Defenses very rarely stay great two years in a row. The Browns, Ravens and Niners are showing you that in HD.


You said "he's struggled" and the facts disprove that claim. Now all I see is you making excuses tbh.



Right how? Did you predict we'd win the superbowl? :evil:

Fine. Our first round. Divisional round.

Funny how it is Tom and Belichick defending KC now.


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If anyone knows about being bounced it’s Rex.

Florio and Simms have KC fourth in their power rankings behind Detroit, Buff and Philly.

"The top three are a level above everyone else. KC is there along with six other teams. All of the top three would beat KC"

Ryan Fitzpatrick on his podcast with Andrew Whitworth.

"There's a bad vibe on that sideline in KC. And I don't think they can turn it around. They are worst than last year. Their defense is terrible and so are the tackles".

Mina Kimes "I don't see KC getting the one seed. Buffalo are the better team".

Keep em coming.

Whatever. I seem to remember Rex Ryan teams getting bounced almost every year in the first round, so **** that guy and his foot fetish.

The only reason I even care about the 1 seed this year is our guys could use a week off physically.

As it pertains to Road/Home, I'd be more than happy to go to Buffalo and rip their ****ing hearts out again. The nervous energy in that stadium every time Bass makes a kick or if they fell behind early would be palpable.

Chris Simns "I'm picking the Chargers to go win this game. Screw it. The Chiefs have been outplayed the last five games and the Chargers are gonna finally say 'enough with this crap' and put them out of their misery"

Mina Kimes "People keep questioning why the Chiefs keep playing close games. But this is who they are. They're a flawed team and I don't think those flaws are going away. I think the Chargers and Steelers beat them".

Keep em coming.

I'm sure clips will come out soon. Rex Ryan basically doubled down on this on ESPN this morning and they had a pretty good argument about it. Tedy Bruschi looked like his brain was about to explode. Was getting on Rex for comparing this Chiefs team to other teams with similar statistic profiles but had QBs like Mason Rudolph. Bruschi said as long as they have Reid, Spags and Toub with Mahomes at QB he's not doubting them. Rex still thinks the Chiefs have to get the 1 seed because they're going to be vulnerable to being one and done.

I watched that too this morning. It’s just the same ol’ blah, blah out of these assholes and all it comes down to is we’re not blowing everyone out, and there’s been almost no consideration for all the injuries we’ve sustained and poor protection for 15 and the enormous fatigue the media has for the Chiefs.

It’s pathetic and Nick touched on it quite succinctly the other day. We all know what solves this problem: continue to win. In the end that is all that matters to us and everyone, but we’re the only one going for the threepeat. And after all the shit this team has gone through and have had to put up from the media, I hope we get this done more than ever. Not only would we achieve something never done before, it would be the ultimate middle finger to all the haters and doubters out there, and MAYBE we’ll finally get the respect we’ve rightfully earned.

But why would getting the #1 seed even matter? If the Chiefs are the team he's been spewing about for weeks now, wouldn't they be even more prone to lose, coming off the bye, to an even better playoff team in round 2? :shrug:

I honestly don't understand these takes. Like we were worse last year or at least we weren't better last year, we had a worse record and had to play multiple road games and didn't get the bye. And we won it all. Mahomes has been in the AFCCG every year he's been the starter. Like at some point the assumption has to be that the Chiefs are going to go deep into the playoffs until they aren't.

Like I understand not picking them to 3 peat, but to be one and done? Say they're the 2 seed, how can you be confident that the Broncos are going into arrowhead and winning? You're going to guarantee that the team that has beaten Mahomes once in 14 games is going to win, that seems dumb to me.

They never learn. This is the exact same shit as last year lol

Joy Taylor still backing the Chiefs
 

I don't think ANYBODY thinks This Chiefs team as it is currently playing is good enough.

The difference is, all of these pundits are assuming that this is IT, this is their final form, and they won't be better in January (and February).

That's just not how it's going to go down.

Omenihu back makes a difference. Pacheco back makes a difference. Hopkins makes a difference. Brown coming back will make a difference.

And Humphries, if he's anything NEAR what he's been will make as big a difference as any two of the above.

So yeah, they can all eat crow a month from now.

The idea that Rex Ryan is saying anything is hilarious.

Andy and Patrick Mahomes have more Superbowl Rings than Rex Ryan had winning seasons. Yeah. Mr. Two winning seasons acting like the authority on who can get shit done.

Stick to being the toe jam sommelier, Rex.

I think these talking heads are forgetting that our team isn't coached by clowns like Rex Ryan.

We're basically a dragster moving to the starting line. Yeah, we jump around a little bit, but it's because we're having to throttle down during the regular season.

There's some dumbass on here who thinks Joy is fat.

I guess that means I love fat chicks now, because she is fiiiine

"Josh Allen is the most talented QB ever. He's seperated himself from John Elway and Mahomes. And right now it feels like Philly and the Bills are the favourites to go to the superbowl". Colin Cowherd

"Josh is the best player in the league and Lamar Jackson right now is better than Mahomes. I can't see anyone beating Buffalo in the AFC". John Middlekauff

No mention of Buffalo's terrible defense or them getting beat last week?? Just glazing Josh Allen and ignoring the facts. It's also interesting how a man who has already won two mvp's, three rings, three superbowl mvp's, has broken record after record and currently has the best record in the league whilst also being a back to back champ, continues to get disrespected like this.

Allen's numbers aren't even the best in the league. Lamar, Burrow etc are better. But it's clear there's a bitterness when it comes to Pat and the Chiefs. So much so that a player's failures are completely overlooked (apparently none of the Bills playoff loses are on Allen) in order to hype them up over a team and player who has defied the odds for five years. And I'm sure more of this will be spewed tomorrow.

But keep em coming.

Good for Josh. When his career is over, he can oust Rivers as the best QB to never go to a Super Bowl

So this week's "best team in the league" according to Rex and Damian Woody is the Eagles. And one other guy said the Bills.

Shannon Sharp and Ocho were also glazing Buffalo and Josh. Ocho picks them to go to the superbowl too. When they talked about KC it was nothing but negatively and mocking our o-line.

Skip Bayless "Eagles are gonna win the superbowl. Eagles won free agency and won the draft. They gave the best defense in the league".

The back to back champs with the best record in the league are scrubs yall :thumb:

Seeing all this glazing of the bills , you can see how easily a fanbase can get hated pretty quick it’s no wonder everyone hates us lol but I think it’s time for this team to feed off the hate like they did in the playoffs last year.

On top of this the three teams behind KC are all worse versions from last year. The Bills, Ravens, and Texans all have less talent and are worse versions of themselves than last year. Hell, the Bangles won't even be in the playoffs.

The Steelers are the only team to have actually improved over last year and an over the hill Wilson is their QB. This year's playoff run won't be close. It'll be an ass ripping and rectum prolapsing beat down once this team has the green light because the games actually matter...

It is what it is. KC’s in the playoffs and there is no QB/team with more experience than Mahomes/KC. Let all those guys get their regular season accolades, because just like last year only one QB hoisted the Lombardi and he wears red.

To make/possibly win a SB an AFC team has to overcome Mahomes/KC. The past 6+ years have shown how big of a challenge that is. He’s 15-3 in the playoffs and two of those losses were to a QB who no longer plays.

Could this be the year that someone finally gets past KC? Sure. But I always will take the playoff team with the most experience until they are eliminated. KC showed that last year as they knocked off Buffalo in Buffalo, beat an unbeatable Ravens team in Baltimore and then the “more talented” 49ers team that they were supposed to lose to.

These guys are pushing a product. Hair in can gets you laid

Well....for one they're not wrong.

The Chiefs aren't really playing well, but still winning. Which is great, for sure.

But banking on them doing what they did last year is also a little.....well unlikely. There was a reason that was an unprecedented run thru the playoffs.

I don't think it is and I think people tend to rewrite history once it happens to make it seem like we knew it was going to happen all along.

2022, mentions of the Chiefs having an elite offense, so of course they were going to make a run. Well, let's rewind to that awful Titans OT win, losing to the Bengals, squeaking out a couple other wins, the terrible OT win against the Texans, the concerning win over the Broncos.

2023, They had an elite defense. Well, tell people that in mid-December last year when they gave up 30 to the Packers, and we all know the level of meltdown around here after Christmas Day.

I think we felt relatively good in 2021 after the offense un****ed itself, but they also lost to the Bengals at the end of the year.

So, it's probably been since 2020 we haven't had a major December meltdown on here.

At some point we should probably be looking in the mirror and maybe not expecting the worst. :shrug:

Good point Bearcat.

The 2022 season gets a bit whitewashed, but they struggled coming down the stretch and weren't exactly lighting teams up but they were winning.

It's the NFL. All the "winning 1 score games etc" stuff rings hollow when most games are in fact 1 score.

Well, the teams that aren't us in the AFC side of the playoffs aren't as good as last year. So that helps. Except odds are Josh won't implode to the degree Lamar or Tua did last year in the playoffs. The next best team, the Bills, have a ****tarded defense. ****sburgh is working off a QB that just got paid to go away from his last team. Ravens defense has fallen off substantially. Texans have massive warts. The Chargers actually have (had, probably) the best defense in football, and got 40 put on them by Baker. Donk actually puts together a decent balanced game, but are on a rookie game manager type QB.

That's not nearly the gauntlet that it was last year. If we make the Super Bowl, the Lions or Eagles are probably commensurate with the 9ers.

This kind of reminds me of that 2021 stretch where they'd have one really good drive in a game (usually the first one) and then would look like ass the rest of the game. And I'm not sure we even saw that in many games last season....even if the offense wasn't great in the playoffs, they stopped the turnovers and Mahomes had far better confidence in his receivers (specifically thinking about a couple MVS throws in the Bills game, for example).

And I know we deep dive around here and talk ourselves into all kinds of stuff that sounds kind of dumb, when it comes to saying it looks more like practice than winning games, etc... but damn this shit is just impossible to explain sometimes.

And damnit, I want to pay for playoff tickets this year (for the first time since 2021) with confidence.... and while I'm still confident, maybe just put up 40 on the Texans to seal it. LMAO

Yeah, there's no Baltimore of last year, but don't forget the Bills were also 7-6 at one point last year. So we've kinda white washed it again.

Until someone knocks this team out, I'll always figure we've at worst got a punchers chance. But damn, the offense just looks like hammered ass.

I used to enjoy watching Get Up but Ryan has rendered it unwatchable. By the way Bruschi and Orlovsky are the biggest Mahomes/Chiefs boosters on there.

I do think the Eagles are the most complete team in the league despite Hurts's and their coach's shortcomings. Their D is playing great and Brown and Barkley are a tough duo to face. It would be another great super bowl.

Yeah, every year the rest of the league gives me as much or more hope than the Chiefs... and then some years (like the Bengals beating the Bills for us), they don't even run into all of their biggest challenges.

I'd love for nothing more than the Ravens or Steelers to knock out the Bills in the Divisional round... and even if it doesn't happen, the Bills' defense cured the Chiefs' offensive issues last season and could do it again.

The Bills don't scare anyone inside that Chiefs facility.

They know just as well as everyone watching that they played with their food too long, abd it came back and bit them at the worst possible time, right at the end of the football game.

We ran the ball well against them. We stopped running the football in favor of the common trend now of 3-4 series worth of just straight up passing game, when the line can't protect a warm cup of piss.

It was 16-14 at half, neither team scored in the third, thentrademark "gotta have it drive" took place, KC scored with ease, and all that was needed was a stop by the defense.

A stop that sadly did not take place because our defense appeared to be the only people watching that game that didn't know Josh Allen was not giving up the football on 4th down, and we go down 9 with minimal time left.

A rematch in Arrowhead, with Hunt and Pacheco utilized correctly, hopefully a fix at LT that's permanent, the pressure comes off Mahomes, he won't have 2 interceptions, we will be winning time of possession as Josh has to sit and stew on the sideline, and he's going to panic. He's going to break under the "here we go again" pressure, and in his best Phillip Rivers impersonation he's going to chuck us a terrible turnover.

Mcderpitt will make some equally stupid, fear induced decisions that will affect the game negatively.

We should want the Bills at home. Crushing them again, sending them packing, ah man. It's one of the better perks of advancing in the playoffs.

"I'm picking the Eagles to win the superbowl. They are the best team in the league"

"Josh Allen is the most talented QB ever. He's LeBron in his prime, Ohtani, Tiger Woods. You can put the best athletes out there and he's a notch above that".

"Allen doesn't have any cryptonite. We're lucky we're alive to see him. As good as Mahomes is, he's not Allen".

"I saw the Bills defense give up 80 plus points over the last two games and it doesn't matter. They're still going to the superbowl"

"The Chiefs look vulnerable. They can't blow out anyone or protect Mahomes. I would sign up for an Eagles vs Bills superbowl today".

"Yesterday Jim Nance said 'this is America's team', and I'm all for it"

COLIN COWHERD TODAY.

The meltdowns that would ensue if we go and win it again would be of epic proportions.

Cowherd won't melt down. He changes his opinion constantly when the wind blows. So he'll go back to kissing the Chiefs' asses if they win.

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As bad as Mahomes has played this year. He always takes his game to another level in the playoffs. His numbers are just insane.

Our defense is good and our offense has the playmakers to be elite. There is not a single team I would bet on over Mahomes in the playoffs.

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:hmmm:

Are we flooding this assbag’s mentions with Round 1 bye receipts?

How about those LA Superchargers Rex? Guess the wildcard round wasn’t a “gimme” for Herbie.

Rex Ryan is a blowhard and a pervo.

Yes, and I hope the Jets hire him again. It will be comedy gold.

He thinks he's smart but no matter how much shit he talks not a single Chief is going to **** his wife.

Not one...

I hope so, just so I don’t see his bucktoothed bleached white face.

I see none of him, now. 0% chance I watch ESPN unless it's a live event, then I never watch the pregame and turn something else on during halftime. Sometimes I'll catch SVP after MFN or Monday KU games because Bad Beats kills me every time.

For what it’s worth, he’s the best HC they had in a long time. He took them to two AFCCGs with Sanchez as his qb.

And I've seen coaches like Rex Ryan never get another coaching job again......

I need to follow your lead. I stopped watching ESPN. Started watching NFL Network because of Colleen Wolfe.

OMG, he stood over a guy!

JFC.

Wrong thread…

Sexy Rex is an idiot

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Rex consistently has bad opinions. All these former Ravens/Steelers honks on tv are cut from the same cloth and the tube is clogged with them.

The Chiefs problems were always circumstantial, fixable, and exaggerated.

Texans are basically a bye week for the Chargers / Rex Ryan

Eat a dick Rex

**** off wrecks

Suck some toes Rex

Haha I forgot about this thread I started…

Suck aikmans big toe Rex!

You know he bad mouthed the Jets since he left. Then went for an interview. Johnson kids may have been brutal

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