Yeah, if this gets Connor out of the slot, it's worth experimenting with.

Especially if it frees Connor up to play a little more in a pure FS role, where I think he really could excel.

probably not a bad signing even though he talked shit about Chiefs fans. One more injury to a CB and it's probably bad.

Exactly!

LAst year he was one of the best corners in the NFL in press coverage. Which is what we do.

Was more about that scheme he was in. He's clearly really good in press coverage. He graded out better than Sneed last year. I mean take that for what it's worth but he's a clear upgrade in that department over what we have now, depending on how fast he gets up to speed.

It is pretty insane how much this one move will improve things on the back end if it works out. Knocks McDuffie back into the slot primarily which hopefully knocks Connor back into the high safety and gets Cook out of that role. Potentially improves at least 2 positions on the field substantially.

YES!!! Exactly.

Sneed was never going to grade well on PFF last year because he was taking the hardest assignments possible play after play after play.

And got penalized a lot, which hurts a grade. Only tossing it out because I think it was (I'd have to look it back up) that he was top 10 in press and in press he gave up zero TD's over the whole season.

So he's basically coming off his best year as a corner and really excelled in press last year.

That's at least hopeful for us.

He really carved out a nice career post-KC. I know he was a little bitter about leaving, but who cares at this point? I'd sign Joseph Stalin if he could cover Josh Palmer.

So is he starting Sunday?

He was gonna leave town til I caught him lackin. You're welcome everyone

Have they elevated this POS yet

Sup sexy

Hey

Imagine if this actually works out.

Could you imagine telling your 2018 self that in 6 years, Steven Nelson is going to be brought in to shore up a secondary looking to threepeat?

Hahaha. I'd have myself committed.

I really think he’s a depth signing… I really don’t expect much.. Anything more than that is a bonus..

Man Veach isn't going to die wondering. Uche, Thomas, Humphries, Nelson. Obviously Hopkins worked out, but if we get just one more of these stepping up to average it'll be massive.

Would absolutely f**king love it if Nelson ends up an average CB in coverage and McDuffie is back in the slot.

The Uche signing hasn't panned out so far at all. Not even sure what's going on there

Yep, really would like to see them use him more. Our pass rush is horrid and we have zero speed at DE

Guess we needed to wait until he was washed and then sign him as a street free agent?

Uche has juice. He's still young. He could have a legitimate future here as the complementary speed rusher we really need. And yet we just won't send him out there.

And it's not as though he can't do it. This isn't a Neil Farrell thing where hell, the guy might just be bad at football.

Uche has BEEN that guy. He's been a damn effective pass rusher and he perfectly complements the sort of guys in Jones, Karlaftis and Omenihu who can pressure a QB but maybe not impact the play as greatly. Those guys all have surprisingly low EPA per pressure; their rushes aren't impacting the plays as much as one would expect.

Maybe put someone with some real speed out there who can mop up and/or push the QB forward by coming up the arc.

It's one of the stranger things I've seen this team do in a bit.

He had a solid career in KC. He was a dickhead so nobody liked him or gave him credit for being decent.

But he's always punched above his weight class. He has flaws, to be sure, but he was a typically sticky CB who knew where to be. He just had some physical limitations.

He's a poverty McDuffie in that regard.

If Nelson were the guy he was 3-4 years ago, he'd be a fantastic get. Or really at any point in his career, even last year, he'd be an asset.

It's just an open question if there's any gas in the tank at this point.

Looks like he's been exclusively a boundary corner since leaving KC.

From his last year in KC through now, he's had about 5800 snaps on the outside to about 150 from the slot.

I'd be super stoked if he could just give us 20-25 snaps/gm in Nickel packages that let McDuffie move back into the slot. Nelson had 5 interceptions and 8 PBUs last season, so at least in 2023, he could still play a little bit.

I gotta believe he could be no worse than Johnson was.

Well he's had most of the season to rest. He should be energetic and without any nagging small injuries. Hopefully he's kept himself in good physical shape on his own and he'll only have to adjust his mind to game speed decisions.

They have to get Conner out of the slot now. He’s just not a fit there. They also need to play Hicks over Cook

When you've got 3rd downs and Jones decides to play DE and kick him inside, it's not gonna work.

You really think they're making that change this late in the year?

Well there's that...

I'm really impressed with how the Chiefs have gone out and at least tried to address their injuries and weaknesses as the season has gone along. I live in DFW and I see that the Cowboys have done exactly jack shit. I love the commitment to winning.

Jones needs to stop ****ing freelancing.

They've already started to.

Cook had his lowest snap count of the year Sunday night, Hicks had his highest.

Reid said last week Hicks was going to see the field more going forward. They must really like him. Cook sure as hell isn’t doing jack shit, so I’m fine giving Hicks a shot.

Cook is lost in coverage.

<----- {stares longingly at Bernhard Raimann}

I have just never for one second understood that Cook pick. Dude was never a 2nd round talent.

Its on Spags to straighten his ass out

In fairness to Cook, if the D-line isn't going to generate pressure, you need world beaters playing CB and safety. Last year they had a better secondary and a pass rush. Hence the success defensively.

This team has more money invested in the D-line than in the secondary. The line needs to start playing better.

Hopefully, he’ll bring some experience & situational awareness to the secondary. Whether it’s man coverage or zone, the current roster does not have a ball hawk. The secondary seems to be out of sync and out of position on a lot of those mid to deep receptions. I can’t remember the last time the secondary made an interception vs a good offense. Maybe I’m just getting old.

Hopefully he looks back for the ball.

That's heresy!

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We miss Sneed baaaaad.

Get this man up to speed for the playoffs

The only dude on the team getting torched more than Conner is Reid. I suppose argue Johnson is right there but that's on yards more than completion percentage. They're the biggest problems with our pass defense. I'm not giving up on Conner as a safety, but he sure as shit isn't a nickel. And Reid... well they aren't about to bench him (even though they should)....

Emmitt Thomas was a great Chief but it seemed like most of the DBs he coached here didn't look back for the damn ball.

He's had a good career and last two years. Hope he's been in shape because he's gonna be 32 when we play in the Super Bowl. Anyone know any good 32 year old corners? I don't.

He’d be better than Nazi Johnson

100% and I remember us both saying it at the time. I can probably cut him some slack and say maybe the injury hasn't helped, but nah, not a 2nd rounder, and not above Raimann

He only needs to be serviceable

I'm calling it now. He plays this week and takes one to the house. Famous Jameis is all out of crab legs.

It's definitely rhe worst part of the defense. The secondary feels like it's an average outside corner away from being able to rejig positions and function OK. DL needs an above average DE and probably another DT.

I'm not sure Karlaftis or Omenihu should surprise us. Karlaftis just doesn't have a single, real calling card. He's not winning with speed, get off, bend, power, leverage or great hand usage and technical ability. He wins by not stopping and when the secondary gives the DL about 5 seconds to rush. He's a mid-level player that is good at everything but great at nothing. Perfectly fine as a 2nd tier Jack of all trades, but that's him.

Omenihu on the other hand is just inconsistent, and always has been. He IS explosive when rushing at DT and he has games he looks great, but then he'll follow it up with a game he forgets how to tackle. Again, fine complementary type guy but not a consistent problem for an OL.

Can't fault the focus they've had on DL, but it really is Jones and a lot of average. Uche is just a head scratcher because man do we need speed.

AS much as I love George, if this team is gonna keep winning SB's we need an elite edge guy that can compliment Jones. And George ain't it.

Love his motor. But he has faults that can be coached. Ex: Gets pushed wide & misses inside gap assignment. (Some of Josh Allen’s big runs last game vs Bills.) Coach that up coaches!

I love George on a rookie deal. I don’t love paying him what he may command.

Either let him play it out and take the comp pick or listen to offers when it makes sense to do so.

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Picking last or close to it for the last ten years has left us with probably the weakest edge rushers in the league we are probably going to have to pay for one next year , l like George but not at 25 mil per though.

Curious George is not what we hoped for.

LOL

Somehow a Steven Nelson thread turns into shitting on Karlaftis. Only on CP!

Crow will be served in dump truck loads when furious George forces a panic throw in the superbowl, intercepted and returned for the game winning score by Steven Nelson.

QB gonna have to take a 7 step drop and pat the ball 3 times before George gets there...

I wanted Travis Jones or Tariq Woolen with that pick. And like everyone else, Pickens over Skyy. Pickens is unquestionably a grade A asshole, but Skyy was obviously a massive bust.

Yep I was a Travis Jones guy too. Cook wasn't even my favourite safety at that point. I liked Kerby Joseph and he's turned into a helluva player it seems.

Yep, completely agree, he's so often just taken miles wide with huge lanes left open.

Nothing wrong with the pick, but if he wants the 20m I think O thought he'd command, then nah, thanks but no. Without the support of successful blitzing and lockdown CBs the total lack of consistent pressure from DE has become much harder to ignore.

Next year's FA there's Josh Sweat, Chase Young, even a guy like Derek Barnett is good and cheap. There's a few options worth looking at.

LOL, It's not my fault

It's a solid pass rusher and tackle draft paired with a terrible QB draft. It should be considerably cheaper to trade up for an impact player at either position.

Is this douchebag gonna play or what?

Glad he went to PlayStation. Would hate to see him on Xbox