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htismaqe 12-13-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855419)
His elbow was bent there, too. He was using the hand warmer for support.

No he was using the hand warmer to warm his ****ing hands. 🤣

He has his elbows bent while jogging like everybody else in the known world that's not a ****ing weirdo.

blake5676 12-13-2024 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855421)
It just looks to me like that left arm is a little stiff, that's all.

There was a video of him catching balls and he wasn't using his left arm at all a couple weeks ago. I'm sure he's still working on being comfortable with full range of motion in that shoulder and arm.

Your SC joint has very little motion to begin with. It's not like the AC joint with regard to shoulder movement. His ROM of the shoulder is 100% if he's cleared to play. Stop making stupid ASSumptions based on videos and anatomy you don't understand.

RunKC 12-13-2024 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855421)
It just looks to me like that left arm is a little stiff, that's all.

There was a video of him catching balls and he wasn't using his left arm at all a couple weeks ago. I'm sure he's still working on being comfortable with full range of motion in that shoulder and arm.

You do realize he just got cleared from his Dr yesterday? You really think that wasn’t something that was cleared Clay?

Come on bud.

KCUnited 12-13-2024 01:18 PM

Lorenzo Cain jogged like he'd pulled his groin clean off the bone so I wouldn't take anything away from video of a guy with a shoulder injury jogging

Unless its a still photo of Ricki Stanzi's quick release I ain't buying it

He good

Chieftain 12-13-2024 01:29 PM

He wouldn't get doctor's clearance to practice if he wasn't healthy.

Wallcrawler 12-13-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855419)
His elbow was bent there, too. He was using the hand warmer for support.

He was probably just distracted by all the defenders that Dj Humphries was pancaking.

htismaqe 12-13-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17855439)
Lorenzo Cain jogged like he'd pulled his groin clean off the bone so I wouldn't take anything away from video of a guy with a shoulder injury jogging

Unless its a still photo of Ricki Stanzi's quick release I ain't buying it

He good

Mahomes usually jogs like Brittany put her fist up his ass the night before the game.

BossChief 12-13-2024 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17853351)
Rice is not going to be suspended.

The NFL can’t start suspending every player involved in a high speed auto accident.

If he didn’t leave the scene of the accident, I’d totally agree with that. However, I can see Godell suspending Rice for longer than we expect to send a message that won’t be tolerated and with his other conduct incident, I can see 2x personal conduct policy violations that justifies the longer suspension to the NFLPA.

After an appeal, I kinda have it as a 2 game suspension and a 4 game suspension that negotiates down to 4 games.

I hope you’re right and I’m wrong though.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 12-13-2024 02:56 PM

(sarcasm) Hey, OBJ was just released by the Dolphins. Should we go get him too?(/sarcasm)

Kiimo 12-13-2024 02:57 PM

we should not.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-13-2024 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855402)
He keeps the elbow bent a lot. It's pretty clear he's not entirely comfortable.

Clay, I love you but it's pretty clear you're full of shit.

Calcountry 12-13-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17852635)
Shit man - if we could just get this left tackle situation squared away we'd literally head into the playoffs fully loaded after this horrendous injury plagued season

….despite which we are 12-1

JohnnyHammersticks 12-13-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855393)
Looks like he's favoring it a bit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He&#39;s back ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> WR Hollywood Brown returned to the practice field on Friday <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/KSHB41?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KSHB41</a> <a href="https://t.co/riOZjgTaJy">pic.twitter.com/riOZjgTaJy</a></p>&mdash; Matt Foster (@MattFosterTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattFosterTV/status/1867630197996200075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

100%. You can tell by his stride that he's favoring his collarbone...

https://c.tenor.com/ys9dwKb0DAEAAAAC...le-awkward.gif

ChiefGator 12-13-2024 04:24 PM

That GIF will always captivate me for 30 seconds.....

JohnnyHammersticks 12-13-2024 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 17855587)
That GIF will always captivate me for 30 seconds.....

One of my all-time favorites.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 04:51 PM

off to a great start

https://i.imgur.com/0lfBIcI.jpeg

ThrobProng 12-17-2024 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17863643)

Mahomes changed his jersey number to a lower case B. LMAO

suzzer99 12-17-2024 05:07 PM

Also he apparently throws a boomerang pass now.

Mr_Tomahawk 12-17-2024 05:22 PM

WT
F?

R Clark 12-17-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17863656)
Also he apparently throws a boomerang pass now.

No look ain’t shit , watch this ma

Dartgod 12-17-2024 06:00 PM

Get that AI shit outta here, Clay.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 06:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeremy Fowler just now on Sportscenter:<br><br>“Hollywood Brown was a full participant in practice today and is trying to make his season debut on Saturday.”</p>&mdash; Jason Anderson (@J810Anderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/J810Anderson/status/1869157927531241791?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 12-17-2024 06:03 PM

Everything going alright, Clayster? Been particularly thirsty for attention lately

wazu 12-17-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 17863703)
Get that AI shit outta here, Clay.

Seems like a pretty obvious joke.

Dunerdr 12-17-2024 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17863705)
Everything going alright, Clayster? Been particularly thirsty for attention lately

His girlfriend broke and Murano left him.

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 06:12 PM

future so bright

https://i.imgur.com/iGYRn0t.jpeg

threebag 12-17-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17855393)
Looks like he's favoring it a bit.

Why, because his pecker wasn’t using your uvula as a speed bag?

BWillie 12-17-2024 06:24 PM

My goal is to downvote every AI image post ever created. We need to curb the use of AI today, tomorrow, and in the future. AI imagery is dangerous and will only lead to misinformation and misuse in the future. Punishment should be on those who use it for nefarious purposes.

threebag 12-17-2024 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17855431)
No he was using the hand warmer to warm his ****ing hands. 🤣

He has his elbows bent while jogging like everybody else in the known world that's not a ****ing weirdo.

Have you seen the video of beta cuck boy running “The Hill”?

threebag 12-17-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17855439)
Lorenzo Cain jogged like he'd pulled his groin clean off the bone so I wouldn't take anything away from video of a guy with a shoulder injury jogging

Unless its a still photo of Ricki Stanzi's quick release I ain't buying it

He good

Willie Roaf could barely walk, but was graceful as a gazelle on the field

wazu 12-17-2024 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17863734)
My goal is to downvote every AI image post ever created. We need to curb the use of AI today, tomorrow, and in the future. AI imagery is dangerous and will only lead to misinformation and misuse in the future. Punishment should be on those who use it for nefarious purposes.

Is posting pics that basically mock the abilities of AI "nefarious"?

BWillie 12-17-2024 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17863744)
Is posting pics that basically mock the abilities of AI "nefarious"?

yes

slippery slope

ai and depopulation are the most dangerous things to our current way of life

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 06:42 PM

WE'RE SO BACK

https://i.imgur.com/BQdUCt5.jpeg

Sassy Squatch 12-17-2024 06:47 PM

LMAO That one is hilarious. Mahomes looks like his Madden likeness and Hollywood just looks bizarre.

Rainbarrel 12-17-2024 06:50 PM

Mahomes lost his ass, this is bad

Sassy Squatch 12-17-2024 06:51 PM

It's also quite apparent that he's wearing baggy pants

Hammock Parties 12-17-2024 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17863763)
LMAO That one is hilarious. Mahomes looks like his Madden likeness and Hollywood just looks bizarre.

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.3167...01c5ca27c6.jpg

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-17-2024 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17863734)
My goal is to downvote every AI image post ever created. We need to curb the use of AI today, tomorrow, and in the future. AI imagery is dangerous and will only lead to misinformation and misuse in the future. Punishment should be on those who use it for nefarious purposes.

For once, we agree.

MVChiefFan 12-17-2024 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17863656)
Also he apparently throws a boomerang pass now.

I mean, would we be surprised?! :D

htismaqe 12-17-2024 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17863763)
LMAO That one is hilarious. Mahomes looks like his Madden likeness and Hollywood just looks bizarre.

I thought it was Whoopie Goldberg and a Patrick Mahomes Ken doll.

displacedinMN 12-18-2024 08:32 AM

Always amazes me how someone can be hurt then come back so fast into a pro football game.

Who did we have with an appendectomy on Tuesday and played sunday? ( a few years ago)

Dartgod 12-18-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17864004)
Always amazes me how someone can be hurt then come back so fast into a pro football game.

Who did we have with an appendectomy on Tuesday and played sunday? ( a few years ago)

Cassel. He missed one game.

Dunerdr 12-18-2024 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 17864029)
Cassel. He missed one game.

Unfortunately it was not the appendix that made him a sub par QB.

big nasty kcnut 12-18-2024 09:26 AM

Hopefully Hollywood will take it easy.

Hammock Parties 12-18-2024 11:04 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We&#39;ll see how much he actually plays, but I&#39;d expect <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> WR Hollywood Brown to return Saturday vs the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#texans</a>. He was a full participant in practice yesterday and has been medically cleared to play. It wasn&#39;t an issue with his legs, so he&#39;s been running.</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1869419728420413799?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chieftain 12-18-2024 11:32 AM

Reading James Palmer's tweets is like eating squash. Empty brain calories.

Hammock Parties 12-18-2024 07:41 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4bxvf7y.png

staylor26 12-18-2024 08:02 PM

I really hope Worthy, Hollywood, Hopkins, Kelce, and Gray get the overwhelming majority of the snaps in the postseason. Sprinkle a little bit of JuJu in. Watson barely sees the field.

BWillie 12-18-2024 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17864653)

**** you and your replica fettuccine

Hammock Parties 12-18-2024 09:22 PM

excuse me but i am not the chef

Rainbarrel 12-18-2024 09:47 PM

DJ Humpfrees was the original

O.city 12-19-2024 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17864667)
I really hope Worthy, Hollywood, Hopkins, Kelce, and Gray get the overwhelming majority of the snaps in the postseason. Sprinkle a little bit of JuJu in. Watson barely sees the field.

Same.

I don't have a problem with Watson like some do here, but I'm just kinda over it.

TEX 12-19-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17864032)
Unfortunately it was not the appendix that made him a sub par QB.

Yes. It was the Brainendix.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-19-2024 08:41 AM

On divisional round weekend, if you roll out:

Z - Hollywood
X - Hopkins
Slot - Worthy
TE - Kelce/Gray

There's simply no excuse to not be cooking with that. You have all body types, all speeds, and legitimate contested catch ability. Guys who can win all the way down to inside the five yard line.

Just get the ball out of your hands, mix in the ground game, and profit.

Dunerdr 12-19-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17864907)
On divisional round weekend, if you roll out:

Z - Hollywood
X - Hopkins
Slot - Worthy
TE - Kelce/Gray

There's simply no excuse to not be cooking with that. You have all body types, all speeds, and legitimate contested catch ability. Guys who can win all the way down to inside the five yard line.

Just get the ball out of your hands, mix in the ground game, and profit.

We need to challenge deep better and I think the threat of Hollywood and Worthy who both can win quick but are also a threat deep could really help this offense have a quick make over.

TEX 12-19-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17864907)
On divisional round weekend, if you roll out:

Z - Hollywood
X - Hopkins
Slot - Worthy
TE - Kelce/Gray

There's simply no excuse to not be cooking with that. You have all body types, all speeds, and legitimate contested catch ability. Guys who can win all the way down to inside the five yard line.

Just get the ball out of your hands, mix in the ground game, and profit.

You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-19-2024 08:47 AM

Brown, Worthy, Hardman all on the field at the same time creates havoc for defenses to figure out. I do believe this is the end game for the stretch run.

493rd 12-19-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17864910)
You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

This.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-19-2024 08:59 AM

Brown, Worthy, Hardman all on the field at the same time creates havoc for defenses to figure out. I do believe this is the end game for the stretch run.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17864910)
You're right. But if the OL doesn't improve, none of it matters.

It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

Red Dawg 12-19-2024 09:02 AM

It feels like we have played the best dls every week.

RunKC 12-19-2024 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17864925)
It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

You don’t think Jawaan and Trey have struggled some in pass pro?

I don’t think Jawaan is by any means bad, but I think he’s had lapses recently. Well that and he got dog walked by Maxx Crosby. Not glaring but a bit frustrating.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-19-2024 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17864925)
It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

Everyone's too afraid to point fingers at Patrick. I do get it, he can't do much wrong in our eyes as fans, but we've talked about it ad nauseum, and we've seen the tape. He's not very good this year.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-19-2024 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17864925)
It's ONE GUY. One position.

Stat after stat after stat shows that we have as good an interior line as the league has and a solid pass protecting RT.

If you can't gameplan around one friggen guy, it's on your coaching staff and yes, your quarterback.

It's one damn guy.

We have to stop hanging everything that ails this offense on the LT. I mean many say we got the best LT play we've had all season on Sunday against Cleveland and the offense STILL looked like boiled dogshit.

I just don't buy this "none of it matters if we don't find a miracle cure at LT" stuff.

And it's not as if we didn't see this SAME EXACT issue last year.

I got news everyone, it wasn't just Donovan Smith that all the sudden elevated his game to serviceable levels in the playoffs leading them to win those games.

It was the entire unit rising to the challenge. 100% steady focus for the first time all year long. They felt that need to win maybe for the first time in those games. More opponent-specific game planning. The whole operation, Donovan included, raised up to a higher standard.

That's all we need to happen. Whether it's Thuney or Humphries. And it's very achievable, especially if you're only asking them to hold up for two home playoff games in which they'll be far more fresh than their opponent, as well as a Super Bowl with two weeks to prepare.

BigRedChief 12-19-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17864004)
Always amazes me how someone can be hurt then come back so fast into a pro football game.

Who did we have with an appendectomy on Tuesday and played sunday? ( a few years ago)

Patrick said he was spending 12 hours a day on treatment for the ankle. I guess if you have unlimited money to get better faster it can be done.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17864929)
You don’t think Jawaan and Trey have struggled some in pass pro?

I don’t think Jawaan is by any means bad, but I think he’s had lapses recently. Well that and he got dog walked by Maxx Crosby. Not glaring but a bit frustrating.

I don't think they've been anything that the vast vast vast majority of NFL quarterbacks don't deal with.

I think for 80% of our offensive line Patrick Mahomes is getting, on aggregate, a performance on par or better than 90% of the NFL. Everything is relative and relative to his peers, no, I don't believe there's anything worth pinning the offensive struggles on for those guys.

And I also think that both Mahomes and Andy have made things substantially harder for all of them. I don't think Spencer Brown, for instance, is a better player than Taylor. But he's getting much easier responsibilities.

LT? Yeah - I'll give you that. Especially of late. But I'm not going to pretend like he's not gotten better protection from the other 4 guys than the overwhelming majority of his peers.

Dunerdr 12-19-2024 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17864912)
Brown, Worthy, Hardman all on the field at the same time creates havoc for defenses to figure out. I do believe this is the end game for the stretch run.

Hardmans on IR buddy.

BigRedChief 12-19-2024 09:22 AM

Our interior line is the best in the league, or at least one of the top 3. RT maybe average but thats okay if you have that interior OL we do. and a average LT.

We whiffed on Williams. Not Veach's fault. He offered a top $ long term deal but he decided to stay in Dan Fran and not win SB's.

Until we suck enough to get up in the draft far enough to draft a long term solution at LT, this is our OL we will have for the foreseeable future.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17864931)
And it's not as if we didn't see this SAME EXACT issue last year.

I got news everyone, it wasn't just Donovan Smith that all the sudden elevated his game to serviceable levels in the playoffs leading them to win those games.

It was the entire unit rising to the challenge. 100% steady focus for the first time all year long. They felt that need to win maybe for the first time in those games. More opponent-specific game planning. The whole operation, Donovan included, raised up to a higher standard.

That's all we need to happen. Whether it's Thuney or Humphries. And it's very achievable, especially if you're only asking them to hold up for two home playoff games in which they'll be far more fresh than their opponent, as well as a Super Bowl with two weeks to prepare.

It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

Dunerdr 12-19-2024 09:23 AM

I don't know how any one can not point fingers at Mahomes as the season wears on. Does he have good reason to not trust the protection and WR? Yeah I guess. But at some point players gotta play. He's in his own head about it.

Dunerdr 12-19-2024 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17864950)
It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

They forget Garret was out for a quarter and don't realize the amount of help he was getting. If Morris had that much help or hell even Kingsley they may both still be playing while Humphries gets in shape.

O.city 12-19-2024 09:35 AM

We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-19-2024 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17864950)
It should worry folks that we got largely what we asked for out of Thuney - as much as we should reasonably expect from Humphries - and the offense as a whole looked as bad as its looked all season. It might have been its worst game on balance.

Now personally I don't see what others saw with Thuney. I thought he got pushed around a fair bit. I DON'T think he was a noticeable improvement on Morris and ultimately I'd probably be happy putting a pin in that experiment going forward. Or at least I'd allow it only to the extent that it may allow Morris to get healthy again for a stretch run.

But for those that thought he stabilized the position - how do you explain away how god-awful that offense was Sunday? And if you don't think he did (I don't) what miracle pill do you see on the horizon that's going to fix this?

In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17864963)
We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

What's this 'we' shit?

I've been cocking my head a bit sideways at Mahomes since the Lions game last season.

It's just so obvious that this offense goes as he goes -- and that's how it SHOULD be.

Too often over the last two seasons he just hasn't been sharp.

Now NONE of that precludes him being an absolute buzzsaw when the post-season starts. He's shown that he's capable of flipping that switch and kicking ass.

If your goal is winning the SB, there isn't a QB you'd rather have on your roster regardless of what he does in the regular season.

But the issues with this offense start with him.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17864967)
In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

Andy said something interesting in a post-game interview. He said, essentially, "You can't win in this league without passing the football..."

That tells me that they're still trying to figure this shit out. The reason they were throwing is they still don't know what works for them. They were treating the 2nd half like a scrimmage and calling passing plays to see if certain things worked.

I didn't get it in real time but as I heard Reid, it started to make a little more sense.

They're still feeling for it out there.

TEX 12-19-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17864963)
We're doing alot of tapdancing around the fact that last year.....it wasn't just the OL or the WR's raising their level.

The QB played well. He's not played well this year.

I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

O.city 12-19-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17864967)
In that second half, I thought our biggest issues were play-calling, focus, and the QBs decision making.

I mean look at the play he got injured on. Thuney did exactly what you want. Mahomes decided to run straight forward into the interior and put his body in harms way instead of just settling somewhere in the middle and making the throw. Otherwise, why not take the escape hatch to the left (to Thuney's right), and either run for the three yards or find an outlet that way.

Mahomes has gotten himself hit a LOT lately. He's trying so hard to stay in the pocket and that's fine if he'd get rid of the ball in a more timely manner. Insert Brown, hopefully.

But he's not "Staying in the pocket" he's running himself into alot of this.

DJ's left nut 12-19-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17864979)
I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

I think the difference in our respective outlooks is simple:

If the OL doesn't play any better at all than it did in the mid-season, this team can win a championship by Mahomes simply playing to his ability. Hitting the shots he has and not feeling phantom pressure. Stop moving yourself into contact, run the offense.

That doesn't mean things are going to be easy for him or that they're going to put up 40+. But with this OL playing as it did for the middle part of the season, Mahomes can raise his level to a place sufficient for us to win championships. We don't NEED a significant improvement at OL.

Meanwhile, if the OL were to become a brick wall and Mahomes were to STILL see phantom pressure and STILL miss open shots (or simply not throw them), we lose.

You're using the OL improvement as a proxy for Mahomes improvement and saying one is vital to the other. I'm saying the Mahomes improvement is ALL that matters. And even if the OL doesn't improve substantially, Mahomes getting even to his level of last post-season will be enough to 3-peat.

But it starts with Mahomes.

O.city 12-19-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17864979)
I know you've chosen to die on the hill that if Mahomes is getting paid so much, he has to play better. And you're right. But, if the OL plays better, Mahomes plays better also. No denying that. Two things can be right.

They've gotta cut corners somewhere when guys start making the money they are. It's just the way it is.

Some things will work out, some won't.

But if he doesn't play to a certain standard, we're pretty much drawing dead.

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