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A - Have a life. B - Was putting in some OT at work. C - Was getting laid by the wife. Given that the last game went into the wee hours of the morning, I needed to figure out what the hell was happening to the Staples Center Crew and estimate their chances at pulling this series out. So here's my take on things.... The T-Cubs are playing like the T-Wolves and will beat the Lakers if they continue this torrid shooting pace. No fuggin way they keep swishing the nets at 55% the rest of the series. FWIW: I'm glad Minnesota won Game #3 given the horrendous officiating that favored the Lakers down the stretch. That Horry flop was poetic justice on Garnett because he had his 6th on Kobe's drive to the hole that wasn't called in the 4th. The Zenmaster better put another body on KG when he gets the ball or it's over for 2003. He's got way too much confidence going right now so double him up and let the others beat you. The T-Wolves got a taste of pressure when they froze up late in the 4th. Kobe's missed FT in regulation let them off the hook and allowed for a breather before OT. Kobe's sprained shoulder had an effect on his aggressiveness towards the hole. It will be interesting to see what he can do in Game #4. Until the T-Cubs put win #4 on the 3-time Champs, I'm not too concerned being down 1-2. The last game was an ammonia blast to the nostrils for this team and I anticipate a double-digit win in Game #4. Besides, it takes a few Laker losses to bring out the "Haters" anyways. :p |
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So your Cuban Cigars are beating up the JailBlazers? They've been our punks for years. Enjoy this brief respite from the inevitable (The Quatro) as we all know the Euros will spank your Iraqui-led defense. |
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Just rescuing this thread from Page 12 before tonights Game #5...
Surprising that no "Haters" had any comments after the 102-97 victory that evened the series at 2-2. Then again NOT!!!;) So KG gets a few wins on the Staples Crew and decides to call his shot by boasting about the series being "over"? (had the T-Cubs won Game #4) Nice choke job from the charity stripe.... :LOL: The biggest news is Rick Fox going down for the year. This had to make Wally Z and that unshaven Euro "Rose" in Cowtown happy. The T-Cubs had their chance to put the stranglehold on the 3-time Champs in Game #4 and lost it. (Just like that funny little NoCal team in 2002 did) Look for a win tonight and closure this Thursday for the Lakers. Provided the Boot Accessorizors avoid the Coach of the Year (Popovich) jinx against the Valley of the Sun, look for the REAL Championship Series to begin this Sunday. |
Hopefully the T-Wolves won't have to beat both the Lakers and the refs this time around like in game three.
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Message to Garnett: this series is over. Too bad you're going to be the one sitting at home.
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I really think that the loss of Rick Fox is going to help the Lakers in the long run.
I've thought all year that Devean George was better than him and now he has his chance. He is more athletic, longer and can do more for the Laker offense than Fox can. I think Fox is a decent player, but the Lakers are more lethal with George in the lineup, which is why George has been closing games pretty much all year and Fox has been riding the pine. |
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The key is Devean George needs to be more consistant than he has been all year. He is more athletic, a better jumper, and takes the ball to the basket more than Rick does, but he doesn't shoot as consistantly, nor defend as well as Fox.
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Horry has started knocking down shots now too. Any of you Queen fans remember this? DOH!
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I love that picture. The expressions on the faces of the Queens is priceless. ROFL
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Anybody wishing that the Kings/Jazz series was only 5 games? Talk about a lop-sided mismatch. What is great about this "bye" for the Kings is that they won't face any pressure until the Lake Show pounds them in Game #1 of the Conference Finals.
Looks like the JailBlazers are making it interesting for the Cuban Cigars by forcing a Game #6 in Portland. How sweet would it be to see the Kings match up with a veteran team versus those pansy Mavs that have no defense. Might a well call my shot for Game #6 (like the Game #5 shout out earlier) tomorrow as the 3-Time Champs send the hapless Cubs home AGAIN in the first round. Has anybody told Wally Z that the play-offs are here? Looks like Hudson came back to Earth with his 14 point average in Game #5. The Lakers have finally figured out that press and should benefit from this experience in later rounds. Just another wrinkle that was ironed out by the Zenmaster. Bring on those Boot Accessorizors....... or will it be the Suns????? |
That Was Complete, Pure BS Tonight
Am I happy the Kings advanced tonight?
Yes and no.... really, I'm serious. Yes, because it was nice to put a team away and advance, which for this series was inevitable.. No, because once again the refs really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really SUCK!!!! This game was over 5 minutes into the game when a ref decides to place himself over the game, making himself a difference in the game, as opposed to an opposing player when he ejected Ostertag. You could say the ref who ejected Ostertag did the Jazz in more than any King (not to slight Bobby Jackson, Peja, or even Divac setting the tone early) It was over. Right then and there. I'd have much rather won this game by playing a desperate Jazz team, giving their all. After Ostertag (who had a very impressive series, possibly the Jazz MVP of the series) got bounced, the Jazz were not just desperate. They were toothless inside. Shorthanded. Outmanned. Call it what you will. Thanks a lot, ref. :grr: Once again, you put yourself in a position to decide a game's (in this case season's) outcome because it was about being in the spotlight, at the expense of a team. Seeing Ostertag's ejection sequence. He was called for a tacky foul on Divac and complained. Was it a strong protest? Yes. Enough to get a T? Debatable, but highly doubtful. But the ref had an itchy trigger finger. So Ostertag gets slapped with a T. Ostertag has to stay cool, I realize that, but he has the right to be upset with getting a T... and the ref MUST walk away to avoid a continuation of the tension. So Ostertag mouths off and gets ejected from a playoff game in the 1st quarter, not even 2 seconds after getting the original T. I'm sorry. But that is just plain wrong. The Jazz never had a chance afterwards. They should have been able to find out for themselves if they were going to have a chance this game with a full squad. So I'm happy the Kings get to advance, but I know a raw deal when I see it.... and have the SAC to publicly acknowledge it, even if it favors my team..... |
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Funny thing is the only bad officiating noticed on this BB is when it benefits the Lakers. There were several games that clearly benefited other teams including the Spurs last game as well as the Nets. Thanks for mentioning the fact that the Queens totally benefited from the removal of Ostertag. Most Queens fans always make themselves out to be the victims (Vladesyndrome). Since it was probably Stocktons & Malones last game it would have been nice to let them go down swinging instead of taking the game away from them like that. |
I'm glad I don't give a fart in high wind about NBA ball any longer, because being a Jazz fan, and watching parts of game 1 and 2 of that series made me want to :Lin:
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Interesting game tonight. Looks bleak for my Wolves. At least they made the Lakers sweat for a bit there.
Here's hoping whoever the Lakers play next will repeat what Minnesota did only with more success :toast: |
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Your T-Wolves played a good series and would have beat a lot of teams if they had not drawn the Lakers. Good luck in the future as you have the basis for a very good team there in the future. |
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Lakers need George to step up on both sides of the ball and need to bring their best game from here on. If they do that they should be in control of their own destiny. I know the Queens fans are very high on a good team this year but they don't have to play anyone in the playoffs until they meet the Lakers so I guess we will see how good they really are then. They certainly had a swagger in that last game but that's not too hard when your playing the grey beards minus Ostertag. |
Lakers win the series 4-2.
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I like the Lakers to win against SA. I really thought they would sweep Minnesota. It seems that the Lakers are a Jekyl and Hyde team. I guess everybody has off nights.
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LA should beat San Antonio but they have to bring their best game every night. San Antonio swept the series but Shaq was only in two of those games and a gimp in one of the others. These Lakers are different than anything the Spurs have faced all year. I expect a very physical series with the LAkers winning in 6.
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Looks like there are two sets of fans getting worried about the JailBlazers forcing a Game #7.....
1. Those defenseless Cuban Cigars AND 2. Those soon to be grape Kool-aid drinking Farmers. Wouldn't it be SWEET to see the Euros facing a HOT Portland team in the semi-finals instead of these pansy-assed Mavs that are on the brink of a Titanic CHOKE job? All the greatest play-off seed planning in the world from the Sactown Euros could not have predicted this, eh? The Lakers had the sack to line up against the Boot Accessorizors by pounding the Warriors for the #5 seed. Portland has more talent (when their heads are screwed on correctly) and more experience in big games. Cheeks and Pippen know what it takes to win a ring. Wells and Wallace are wired for the comeback and get this!!! They can actually play DEFENSE!!!! As for the soon to be 4 time Champs you ask? I look to see them make a statement in Game #1 with a win. San Antonio continues to clank FTs in the clutch. Shaq-Diesel and Kobe are clicking so bring on the winner of the Blazer/Euros series. |
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I assume you're joking about the Kings being worried about Portland. It won't matter who wins Game 7, the Kings will rip apart the winner in 5 games, like they did the Jazz. Meanwhile, let's take Round 1. (1)Spurs over (8)Suns in 6: Spurs didn't have it easy and had to get going to avoid the huge upset. They should be ready for the Lakers now. (2)Kings over (7)Jazz in 5: The only team in the playoffs to win a short series, yet the Jazz pushed them. From this series, few thoughts. Peja is the best spot up jump shooter in the NBA (Kobe is even more dangerous, but his game is different in that Kobe will drive and stop or drive and penetrate, we're talking pure shooting... Peja is great at catching and shooting). You know you're good when the only thing Cal_Injun can rip you on is being unshaven. Webber is still horrific at the charity stripe, but he is shooting the jumper much better than he ever has before and has the "I'm obsessed with winning an NBA Title this year" attitude. Bibby is not yet playing 2002 ball, but we just started May. If Hudson can torch the Lakers like that, well I'm salivating over what Bibby has in store for them. Bobby Jackson is the glue to this team and plays so well. Adelman won't be foolish to leave him off the floor in the big spot again. What I've seen so far is these 4 Kings wanting the ball when the game is on the line, 5 perhaps if Jim Jackson is in at a big spot. Kings are better than they were a year ago, Circle Jerkers. Can you say the same for your team? (3)Mavs vs (6)Blazers in 7: Cuban will erupt if they lose this series. It won't happen. Mavs will find a way to win, but the damage will be done. They'll have their confidence questioned and shot. They'll be tired from this series and will blow homecourt vs the Kings and will be down 3-1 going into Game 5. If the Blazers win, they're going to realize how much of a big jump up in class the Kings are to the Mavs. Guess I'm here to say thank you to both teams for playing right into our hands next round. (5)Lakers over (4)Wolves in 6: not as easy as expected. Lakers get through. The fact that it was somewhat in doubt during Game 4 should be very alarming. The Wolves have no postseason winning history to speak of, so for the Lakers to have been extended to 6 here... let's put it like this to all you. The Lakers of the past 3 seasons sweep the Wolves. They don't lose Game 3 after forcing OT and fouling out Garnett. They don't get slaughtered in Game 2. That's not the Lakers of the past. Yeah, sure, they then trounced the Wolves in Games 5 and 6, but you know what? The Lakers of the past would have done the same, but in Games 1 and 2, or at the very least Games 3 and 4. Plus, there's no Rick Fox to defend Peja later.... aw shucks. All I'm saying is this... the Lakers better step up their game or this Dynasty is over even before they reach Sacramento. Where is the action on the wagering Big Daddy and I got going a couple of weeks ago? Cal_Injun, put something creative at work. P.S. Big Daddy: Keep posting the Horry pic. Before this spring is out, Circle Jerkers like you will be fondly reminiscing on that the way Celtics fans remember Bird to Dennis Johnson layup off the fluke Isaiah Thomas pass to win the Pistons series. As in, fortunate to have won that series, but getting their asses handed to them for lunch the following year by a vengeful team in the rematch. Y'all don't scare me and your team doesn't scare the Kings either. |
IMO, the Lakers will beat the Spurs in 6. They seem poised again. Phil Jackson said something like, "Kobe said, 'hey they sweeped us in the regular season, so we should sweep them now; in the playoffs.'"
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On the NBA: If Malone leaves Utah, he'll stay in the West By Scott Howard-Cooper -- Bee Staff Writer Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Friday, May 2, 2003 Farewell ... and see you soon? The maze of possibilities that serpentined through Arco Arena late Wednesday came with the greatest twist of all: Sacramento thinking it was giving John Stockton and Karl Malone a classy send-off in the final moments of the Utah Jazz season but actually, and unknowingly, beginning the push to deliver Malone on a full-time basis. Your turn, Kings. Although Texas and Southern California have been the most-publicized potential landing spots when Malone becomes a free agent July 1, Sacramento is "definitely" a strong candidate, according to one person with knowledge of his thinking. It's also known the Kings have been high on Malone's list all season, rather than a late consideration to leverage the three other Western Conference contenders, and that the NBA's second-leading all-time scorer would come even as a power-forward backup to Chris Webber. Malone will not comment, except with the general disclaimer that "I feel that I can play anywhere that guys compete." Sources, however, describe him as someone who'll decide soon about whether to leave the Jazz but will take until mid-June to decide his order of preference between the Kings, Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks and San Antonio Spurs. The team that wins this season's championship will drop down on his list for July 1. That Malone doesn't want a destination where it's perceived he's jumping on coat tails says everything about the emotional nature of his decision and his personality. But Malone has four serious candidates and the home-state New Orleans Hornets as a longshot if he leaves Utah, and, it has been learned after conversations with current and former members of the Jazz organization and people close to Malone, that the Lakers are the current No. 1 pick. "Without a doubt," one source said of Los Angeles being at the top of the list, pending the outcome of the playoffs. Malone has said he would be willing to take a massive paycut from his 2002-03 salary of $19.25 million and accept the mid-level exception of approximately $4.5 million next season to sign with a contender, as would be required to join Los Angeles, Sacramento or Dallas, all over the salary cap. San Antonio will be able to outspend any of them but might use its envious financial flexibility to sign a point guard (Jason Kidd) or a replacement for retiring center David Robinson, leaving the Spurs the same exception to offer Malone. A two-year contract, with the second season worth approximately $5 million, will take Malone to age 41 and likely be the last of his career. The lure to stay longer would come if Malone was still chasing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's all-time scoring record of 38,387 points, which would require 98 more games at this season's rate of 20.6 points per outing, an especially tough pace to maintain if he goes to the Kings or Spurs as a backup or the Lakers as the third option on offense. The plan is for Malone's wife, Kay, to do most of the legwork in the free-agent process, traveling to the select cities to consider everything from housing to schools for their four kids, ages 4 to 11. Eighteen seasons have given the Mailman more than enough time to form his own impressions, and the financial negotiations will be simple since most teams will be locked into the same offer. The opinion of his wife and kids, Malone said, will account for 75 percent of his decision, although another potentially strong factor was eliminated when his 21-year-old daughter, Cheryl Ford, was a first-round WNBA pick by the Detroit Shock, rather than the Monarchs, Los Angeles Sparks or San Antonio Silver Stars. It's still not certain if Malone will leave the Jazz, with the idea of spending an entire career with the same franchise having held a long-standing appeal, and because he loves Utah. Much depends on whether Jerry Sloan, for whom Malone has great trust and appreciation, returns as coach, and Sloan said he has no timetable on his decision. Much of what Malone likes about Salt Lake City are the same features that draw him to Sacramento -- a smaller market for the country kid from Summerfield, La., who plans to someday live on his Arkansas ranch. He also likes the outdoors, wide spaces to ride his motorcycles and fans as passionate and supportive as the Jazz had during its years among the elite. The Kings themselves have followed the Utah model of a stable franchise, with consistency in the front office, coaching staff and roster. It's not an easy call for the Kings, though. It's impossible to overstate how much some roster decisions will depend on the level of this season's playoff success, and the issue beyond that is whether Keon Clark will opt out of his contract and become a free agent. If Clark leaves, the Kings will lose an athletic inside presence and a candidate to eventually replace Vlade Divac at center but get a shot at Malone, who could have a greater immediate impact. He would be an ideal fit as one of the best passing power forwards and a scoring threat from the low post or perimeter. His strength also will allow him to defend most centers. And if Clark doesn't opt out? The Kings could look for an offseason trade, but, based on their current roster, it's tough to imagine investing almost $10 million in Malone when they already have Webber, Divac, Clark and Scot Pollard at power forward and center. But it's even tougher to imagine them not pushing for Malone with the awareness he could sign with L.A. and answer the Lakers' one consistent need, a power forward. The Maloofs' choice might be to take on another contract, the last thing the ownership group wants, as a defensive move rather than see him sign with You Know Who. The Lakers have long held a special attraction to Malone. The only other time he gave serious thought to leaving the Jazz was to push for a trade to Los Angeles during the 1998-99 lockout season, even if it never came close to happening beyond his imagination. And while it would be the most dramatic shift of surroundings, Kay has already signed off on living there, making it, beyond anything, the Lakers' turn. |
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So It's The Mavs After All!
Well, we'll see how much Dallas learned from their spanking last year. Apparently, if the Portland series is any indication, very little. Still, I give the Mavs enough respect to split the first two in Dallas (likely winning Game 2) and then possibly winning Game 4 to regain homecourt and make the series 2-2. From there, the Kings will take them out in 6, but I can see the series end with the Kings advancing to the Western Conference Finals in 5.
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What a year for poor Rick Fox
First, he gets KO'd by Christie (which, by the way, has been the only thing Christie actually connected on all year). Now, he's out the year and possibly next year with the foot problem. Well, they do say things come in 3's. There's 2 right there.... maybe ol' Rick needs to pay attention to the lust Vanessa has in her eyes for Jim Jackson, like Toni Braxton once did.... |
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That's the reason he will NOT become a Queens fan. He could start on the Lakers, make more points, make an impact and get his title. Good luck with your Queens, GO LAKERS!!! |
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Whoa Whoa....watch the ball play on Robinson....Spurs up 1-0 :toast:
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87-82 SPURS WINN GAME 1!!!!:clap: :clap:
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I just can't believe Duncan got MVP, again. That dudes game is softer than toilet paper.
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I'm not exactly a Spurs fan... but, you have to like Duncan. He stayed his full term in college, plays a solid game, overall good guy and his team is 1 up on the Lakers.
Suh-weeet! I'm anxiously awaiting the Mavericks/Kings series - THAT will be some exciting basketball. |
Fox is the heart of the Lakers and their key defensive specialist. Now that he is out the Lakers are toast. I don't see them getting past the Spurs or even pushing the series to 6 games.
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I would love to see the Mavs win a 6 game series with the Kings, but if they win it ... I see a 7 game series. The Mavs will need that many simply b/c of the lack of a big man.
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Well, the only way the Mavs would play the lakers if for the Mavs to beat the Kings and the Lakers to beat the Spurs.
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First Fox goes down and then George? That really sucks because we have nobody to play forward now. Kobe will have to play out of position now and that dramastically lowers the chances for a repeat. The look on Phil's face said it all when George didn't get up. This really sucks. :cuss: I see all the Lakerhaters are stoked.
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although it's not even remotely over, i'll take the 3 time chumps to take a dump, then my beloved sactown kings can rule the NBA. woot woot!!!
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Clown... although I'm thinking the Mavs will lose the series, the Mavs/Kings should be a truly GREAT series! I don't watch much basketball, but I love watching these two teams play.
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BD ... don't get all pissy. I don't like 'bandwagon' teams - such as the old Bulls, the Cowboys, Lakers, Braves, Yankees.
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The Kings fans didn't use the excuse of the injury to Peja and Weber when they faced the Lakers last year. Its part of the game. |
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It's whining not whinning, I would think you would know that being a Queens fan. I am not whining, injuries are a part of the game, no excuses. I was just pointing out how pathetic many Queens fans are, nothing else. I actually like many of the players on the Queens. It's queerbaits like Vladeflop that don't deserve a ring . |
Thank you for the spelling lesson.
Quit "whining". The Lakers have had a good three year run, but it is over. You no longer need to demean fans of other teams to build you own self-esteem. I'm sure Shaq will still be a malevolent as ever next year when Divac and the Kings are the champions giving you more reasons to live. |
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Let's take Derek Fisher, who is aptly named, for he flops around like a fish, desperately trying to draw the charge. Too bad for him PG after PG have made him their bitch (Bibby last year, Hudson already this year) in the playoffs, as he has been exposed as a one-dimensional player who can only score when left wide open. Robert Horry is another. His whole career is filled with mainly clutch huge shots, I won't deny that. But sprinkled in his greatness in the big spot is his brilliant flopping. Latest case, Game 3 in the Wolves series, drawing the charge on Garnett by taking a 10 foot flop. He's done it to Webber too, but until now, I've never said boo about it. If he wasn't such a beast in the clutch, he'd have called it a career years ago, cause the man can't defend. So... QUOTE]Originally posted by BIG_DADDY It's queerbaits like Vladeflop that don't deserve a ring . [/QUOTE] OK. Whatever.... |
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This year, the Lakers will NOT get passed the Spurs. I LOVED watching Shaq pick up his LEGITIMATE 6th foul last night when he SHOVED D.Rob out of bounds with a timely fore arm to the back as D.Rob had Shaq boxed out perfectly. CLASSIC cross-eyed look on Shaqs face as he took a seat! :toast: |
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