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SBK 04-09-2009 03:41 PM

I'm dumber now that I've caught up on this thread. Thanks N00b's.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5655480)
the point is that Cassel is easier to move on from. Both QBs could be busts. but if they are you aren't as committed to Cassel.

Cassel shows just as much upside to me as Sanchez and he is less risky. He's also cheaper. And you get to keep your #3 pick with Cassel.

Also, Sanchez is probably not the starter day one.

Who cares who the starter is next year? We're going to ****ing suck anyway.

And only a certifiably insane ****tard would argue that Matt Cassel has anywhere near the upside of Mark Sanchez.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655422)
Are you serious? Seriously. You'd really rather have Sanchez (because if Detroit doesn't take Stafford, they should just send in the B2's and carpet bomb the whole city) over Cassel? An unproven (truly unproven) one year starter in college whose had minor leg injuries over a 6'5", 235 lb. athletic guy who just went 11-5 in his first season as a starter in the NFL and who has mentored under the one of the best quarterbacks ever?

I want a winning TEAM, and if that means moving Cassel in favor of Sanchez, so be it.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655422)
This is were I have a problem with drafting Sanchez. He's not the same guy that Cassel is, and I don't see him ever going beyond what Cassel already is.

The vast majority of draftniks and scouts don't at all agree. But have at it.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655422)
And holding out hope that they haven't given Cassel a long term because they are only planning to play him one year or trade him for picks and that they draft Sanchez rather than keep Cassel is the very definition of reeruned.

Then tell us why they haven't given him a contract. EVERY OTHER franchise player that's been traded had a new contract within 48 hours. Acting like it's no big deal is the very definition of reeruned.

htismaqe 04-09-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655485)
Excellent theory there Bubb! Kudos.

And if he does struggle in his second season in the same manner as, say, Derek Anderson, we can look at drafting a proven quality quarterback in next years draft like Sam Bradford. And I'd give up my Jermaine Gresham dream for a shot at Bradford - if Cassel doesn't pan out, but my guess is that he'll be just fine.

Sam Bradford?

You just lost all credibility dude.

SBK 04-09-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655633)
Sam Bradford?

You just lost all credibility dude.

He's a Bronco fan. He's been sent here to dumb everyone of us down.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655633)
Sam Bradford?

You just lost all credibility dude.

I had some to begin with? Now I'm sad. :deevee:

DaneMcCloud 04-09-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5647499)
we aren't taking a QB with the #3 pick. If we wanted Sanchez, we wouldn't have traded for Cassel. It's not going to happen. We aren't taking a QB. Please discuss other options with the #3 pick.

Please go away.

You're ruining the board.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5655626)
I want a winning TEAM, and if that means moving Cassel in favor of Sanchez, so be it.

So do I, but I don't see how Sanchez is going to give us that over Cassel. Sanchez is unproven, with only one year of college as a starter. Cassel went 11-5 last season. People point to Moss and Welker, but Bowe and Gonzalez isn't exactly chopped liver.

Unless you are the Amazing Kreskin, there is no way that you take Sanchez over Cassel at this point, especially if you are concerned about getting a winning team on the field. Cassel has some history in the NFL. We can see what he can do against an NFL defense for an entire season. Sanchez not so much. So to say that Sanchez gives the Chiefs a better chance at winning over Cassel is just plain silly.

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Then tell us why they haven't given him a contract. EVERY OTHER franchise player that's been traded had a new contract within 48 hours. Acting like it's no big deal is the very definition of reeruned.
I have absolutely no idea. Seems a bit weird to me as well.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5655621)
Who cares who the starter is next year? We're going to ****ing suck anyway.

And only a certifiably insane ****tard would argue that Matt Cassel has anywhere near the upside of Mark Sanchez.

So, would you be so kind as to give us your impression of each, and why Sanchez has more upside than Cassel in just a little more detail?

Reaper16 04-09-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655234)
I think I just vomited in my mouth a little.

Can you vomit in your mouth some more? Preferably while you're sleeping?

Reaper16 04-09-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655765)
So, would you be so kind as to give us your impression of each, and why Sanchez has more upside than Cassel in just a little more detail?

Holy ****, you are so Goddamn dumb.

Mecca 04-09-2009 05:49 PM

Sam Bradford is not half the prospect Sanchez is, his pretty stats don't make him a great prospect same for Colt McCoy.

Sanchez has something those guys don't have and Cassel doesn't have either...the IT factor, all it takes is 1 time watching him or listening to his teammates to realize Sanchez has that thing about him that will make him a top player.

SAUTO 04-09-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655761)

I have absolutely no idea. Seems a bit weird to me as well.

IMO it may already be done, just not announced. why announce it? if pioli haley and cassel know what is going on who else REALLY needs to know?

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5655799)
Holy ****, you are so Goddamn dumb.

Is that your final answer as to why Sanchez has more upside than Cassel? If so, I don't think that I'm going to be winning the CP Stupidity prize any time soon. You are a virtual lock for that award - if this is why you think Sanchez has more upside than Cassel. Feel free to amend your post/answer if not.

Mecca 04-09-2009 05:52 PM

Not signing Cassel is a really easy way to leave your options open...

You'd be a complete fool to not trade him if some team like say the Broncos was going to offer up a 1 and a 2 or something stupid like that allowing you to get that plus the QB in the 3 hole.


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