"I have no opinion of my own, but here's some irrelevant words about nothing".

What the hell are you talking about? Wilkerson did shit here. 1 sack in his entire Chiefs career. 11 in 2 years in Tampa. And he didn't have the benefit of Jared Allen in Tampa.

What about the hordes of DL he "improved" in Buffalo and Cincinnati. Umm...who, exactly? Tim "T-Rex" Anderson?

You know what that shows me? That Krumrie is the problem, not the solution.

A reason they will keep Haley would be the price tag to fire him. They would basically be paying for 2 HC's the next 3 years.

Yes, he's made some boneheaded in-game decisions, but to me, it comes back to talent evaluation.

It took LJ mouthing off for us to learn that Charles is capable of being the man.

It took injury to find our best 5 offensive linemen.

We're still starting Vrabel over Studebaker.

And then yesterday, I hear this beauty:

Cassel was speaking with a reporter about his past performances being sub-par, and Cassel told him that he was graded out as having ZERO ERRORS during the Buffalo game.

This is a game in which Cassel threw 4 INT's and had a 35.4 QB rating.

I have a hard time trusting the guys doing the grading after that.

Link??

And yet we gave Matt Cassel 60 million ****ing dollars before he took a snap for us.

The fact that Cassel would even tell a reporter that with a straight face, even if his coaches gave him such a stupid evaluation, just further illustrates that he's part of the problem.

There isn't a ****ing quarterback alive who could take that evaluation with a straight face if they had any pride or belief in a team concept.

That just screams "cover your ass".

I agree that a bad owner is the problem to a bad team.

However, all Im trying to say is, when you hire a new coach, chances are he is going to bring in his new staff, new scheme, new philosophy, etc.

Pretty much EVERYTHING is new! So the players have to adjust accordingly. It's a whole new transition process and learning curve for the players in general because they have to be intellegent enough to blend into the "new" coaches, philosophy and schemes, it really comes down to the players capabilities of adapting to their new environment. Look what happened with Dorsey? He wasn't drafted to be a 3-4DE or is suitable enough to play the nose? New scheme, new coach, and voila he is no longer a 4-3 DT but a 3-4 DE. Thank goodness he is playing pretty well at that position. Sometimes its not easy to adapt to a new environment. Some guys can do it, others not so well. This is why when teams hire a new head coach, chances are there will be a lot of turnover on your roster because its all about them finding the right players that are capable of adapting to the scheme and philosophy. thats just as important as talent level.

when you hire new coaches all the time, then you're pretty much constantly experimenting. The coaches are trying get a "feel" for their players to see what they're capable of doing. players are trying to always adapt. sometimes its best to be patient, let the players learn things over time. I don't know about you, but Id rather see a player master at something rather then have to learn new schemes all the time and start from square 1 again and again. The Steelers are an example of sticking with their plan, and are rewarded for it.

Sign me up for Cowher, Shanny, or Gruden. It's just not like the Hunts to pay for something like that. I remember people being surprised the bought out Herm and Carl with only 1 year remaining.

Was mentioned in Haley's presser yesterday.

Not sure if the text copy has been released yet, and if so, I'll bet anything they cut it out.

Though disappointed in Pioli's performance, it is hard to argue that Clark signing him was a mistake. He was the consensus best guy available. Getting anyone to come take on the Chiefs was challenge enough, but getting someone with those credentials, who said no to other better teams, was something of a coup for Clark. The move was applauded by most every commenter. Just because he has yet to prove to be the genious that we hoped is not a reason to be anything more than disappointed, hoping he will learn from his mistakes.

In his last radio interview, Pioli admitted making mistakes. I think he learned a valuable lesson that won't be repeated. As a football executive in NE, he left coaching to the coaches. Having BB meant that you never second-guessed him. Second, any first time senior executive wants to believe that you should delegate responsibility to the supervisor beneath him ... to let him blossom. After you learn that he is incapable of that, you step in. That is what is happening here. Pioli's mistake was letting Haley have complete control of coaching. It was a rookie mistake to trust a rookie. I don't think that happens agains.

Haley has made mistakes. He thought he was smarter than everyone else. That is not uncommon. Heck, there are a lot of posters here on CP that have that same mental failing. *laughs* He thought he was a better OC, based on what he did with a good QB and two great receivers in Arizona. And, to be fair, the Chiefs played like crap in the preseason, so Haley blamed Gailey, thinking he could do no worse. Heck, many of us fans felt the same, at times.

This season has been a humbling experience for Haley. We will benefit from that in year #2. Pioli will now be more hands on in coaching decisions in year two. We will benefit from that. Haley will get some help (more ways than one), and we will benefit from that. Haley will begin to realize that theory does not always work in reality. In theory, the fake punt should have caught Denver completely unaware and worked like a dream. In reality, you cannot expect good execution from mediocre players. It was reckless to try it, but it could have been a great play, in theory. Year 2, Haley dispenses with novel theory. We benefit.

In contrast, Denver will not benefit. Their 6-0 start merely cemented in Josh McDaniel's mind that he *is* a genius. It was the players that failed him, not the other way round. He has not had the same humbling that a new HC needs in order to realize that it is a team effort of coaches, just as it is a team effort on the field.

If Haley was a moron, like Herm, I would despair because a lesson in humility to a moron is not as likely to yield positive results (unless it causes them to hire good people and stand back). Some of Haley's calls may seem moronic, at times, but the man seems to be a student of the game, and one that will learn well. Yes, it would have been nice to have a professor of the game, rather than a student, but that has its own drawbacks too.

That leads to Part 2 of the question that was asked:

Apparently, Gretz had spoken with Cassel after the Buffalo game and said something like, "How important is it to bounce back after having 2 really bad games" and Cassel got really defensive and said, "Interesting you say I've had 2 bad games."

So in the presser yesterday, both of those were used as lead-in's to a question asking Haley if Cassel is capable of seeing when he isn't performing - and being able to learn from it.

Haley hemmed and hawed around, and dodged the question.

Sure as shit, they dropped the lead-in's to those questions:


Nothing like censoring press conferences...

**** you, you don't know jackshit.

More idiocy from the guy who thinks Tyson Jackson is, and I quote a "bad ass".

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO