It took Welker a few years to become Welker. I think it's safe to assume that McCluster or anybody else drafted yesterday isn't going to be him out of the gates, either. So they probably have some time to find that deep threat. Assuming that's not Chambers' role.

I'm still way more worried about Cassel than anybody else at this point. He's now and forever going to be the cog that makes this thing either work or fail.

And I still say he's expendable if he has a bad season. I don't think you can discount the possibility that not drafting Clausen was as much a statement about Clausen as it was about Cassel. I think the league made a statement of something we already knew, that this was not a strong QB draft. 2011 is probably going to be a different story...

I also think, though, that they look at Cassel as someone they can make a better player (part of the reason Weis is here...) in 2010, whereas I think we (I include me in this) have already written him off.

We still won't have a QB though.

Everyone's pro day numbers are inflated by .15 seconds.

That is simply not true. Moss helped Welker, but Wes was proving to be a dangerous wide receiver in Miami before he was traded to the Pats.

Dane done become an optomist...

Seriously, the amount of ****ing bullshit perpetrated by some people is not only ****ing stupid but disingenuous.

So... this sounds like you think McCluster is something of a project.

Mecca didn't say that he wasn't a good player. He's saying that Welker is so prolific in NE because of Moss as a deep threat.

Because you're talking about taking an OLB or a NT for the sake of taking those positions. That's drafting based on need.

And BPA is relative. McCluster and Moeaki could both be extremely valuable to a Weis offense. Like I said, Weis values versatility a lot more than he values players who do one thing well. He wants TEs who can block as well as they pass, so that he can deceive defenses. Same applies for a RB who can catch--probably the main reason they really seemed to covet Sproles.

The Chiefs were considering trading for Sproles, probably for the same pick they used for McCluster. And I think they would have been used in a similar way.

lol, ok fine. The dude runs a 4.4, seriously. The fact that a question about his speed is even an issue at this point is a bit silly. He was the fastest guy on the field when he played his games in the fastest conference.

seems every year it becomes about individual, rather than team.

Moeaki is a TERRIBLE ****ing blocker...

Are people really trying to argue McCluster is slow?

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. There were some surprises. I question the TE pick the most I would say...but not really angry enough about it to go throat punch a cop with my dick.

Fine. Would Welker be putting up 110 catches a season in Miami. No. Would he be putting up 80-90. Yes. For god's sake, the Pats traded a 2nd and a 7th for him. In today's prices, I could buy Brandon Marshall and Anquan Boldin for that kind of a deal. The kid can flat out play and Moss maybe adds 15-20 catches a season for him.

Quotin dis again for Page 30.

Scott Wright is a complete tool. He denied up and down there was any chance at all of the Chiefs not taking Eric Berry at 5. Chiefs fans on his own board called his dumbassery, the Chiefs select Eric Berry and he acts completely shocked when they take Eric Berry. Says Pioli is dumb ass hell for taking a reserve in the 2nd round, but projects him to be drafted in the 2nd round in his very own mock right before the draft.