Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9498263)

How many playoff games have they won since '93?

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9498241)

For what?

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9498270)

Yes,. What does it gain?

Answer: not a damn thing

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498265)

Tamba Hali IS an outstanding athlete are you nuts. Find a guy as big as him with that kind of stamina that goes until the whistle. He has blood and sweat coming off him in the 4th quarter in blowout games and hes still making a team's LT earn their pay check that week.

There was a gaping hole at LBer behind him, literally, he was playing next to a bum at DE when our starter got hurt, he had an awful safety that cant come up in the box and play the run or do ANYTHING. And Stanford Routt, Jalil Brown, Javier Arenas to his right... need I say more

there's a reason they signed guys like Dunta Robinson and Mike Devito. Run support, guys that will come up in the box and bang next to Tamba. I may not like the signings but Tamba will still come to work against every teams highest paid offensive lineman, their LT, protecting their most important position in the game, their QB. And that offense has to game plan specifically for him and that.... every week.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498288)

Right. Going from 2-14 to 8-8 means absolutely nothing. The team didn't improve, fans weren't more optimistic, guys didn't gain experience from winning - no, none of that.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9498275)

8-8 makes TrueFans happy.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498281)

Gee, I don't know. How many?

:spock:

If you have a point, make it. Pretending to be Donger won't win you any favors.

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9498293)

And what if we go 8-8 in 2014?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498294)

Really? Prove it. Prove how going 8-8 makes "True Fans" happy.

What the **** IS a "True Fan", anyway?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9498193)

So you'd go Jordan?

Long-term, he may be the better pick. However, if you think that you can get real push from your D-line with one of those first three, that's more impactful than a ROLB would be, especially when we already have Houston who's logical next step is to supplant Hali.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9498300)

For the same arguements that were already made in the thread. They will win a few bragging rights games, maybe beat the Raiders at home for once, leave the home games happy a few time and hope some day we trade for an aging Bretty Favre/Joe Montana to put us over the hump. Then they can say at least we ain't (insert whatever team sucks in the division) while the Broncos are playing meaningful games year in and year out.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9498312)

Tyson Jackson-Dontari Poe-Mike Devito

that's a combined FOUR sacks total between them last season

disgusting

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498311)

Well, the Chiefs aren't the Broncos, are they? The Chiefs didn't win two Super Bowls in the 90's and the Chiefs couldn't even get Peyton Manning to talk to them.

So, I think it's wise that Reid and Dorsey but their best efforts forward into making the Chiefs franchise respectable. Respectable. That's a start, right?

How about making the Chiefs a respectable team - no longer a punch line or a laughing stock. If that can happen, then maybe at some point, the Chiefs won't be denied meetings with superstar players and maybe at some point, the Chiefs will put a consistent team on the field, one that makes fans of other franchises jealous.

Contrary to popular belief, that can't happen one week after the League Year begins.

And with all of that said, I don't think there's a single fan of the Chiefs that aspires to 8-8. I really don't.