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Rausch 06-22-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768549)

Yes, a top qb, who doesn't have a top shelf defense, and the number one running game in the league. Both of which the 49ers had with Alex Smith at qb.

He won't have a top 10 D this year.

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768549)
Ill say his max ints will be about 13......

That's far too many. He's here to protect the football and stop-gap the Andy WCO.

Period.

That number is way above his average for the last 2 years (which is really all the pro-Alex guys want to look at.)


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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768549)
I don't think that Alex Smith has that in him. He is too ingrained in doing whats best for the team. Hes never going to become that guy. He may become more aggressive under Reid, but Brett Farve lite? Never going to happen, and if it does, it means that things have gone complete to shit for the Chiefs. And that isn't going to happen.

THat's my point. Alex found his gold zone his last two years.

Phat Andy wants him to top 30 passes per game...

mcaj22 06-22-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768549)
Sacks Happen. They happen to everyone, even the great Aaron Rodgers. He takes sacks too.


well yea if Alex Smith could throw for 300 yards and had the arm strength of Rodgers I dont care if he takes 10 sacks a game

the fact that the averages are like 4 sacks a game @ 170 yards is the difference of converting a key third down in a 10-7 game in my opinion

and that's a sick way to watch your team piss away a win cause of your limp dick noodle arm QB

Rausch 06-22-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9768555)
well yea if Alex Smith could throw for 300 yards and had the arm strength of Rodgers I dont care if he takes 10 sacks a game

the fact that the averages are like 4 sacks a game @ 170 yards is the difference of converting a key third down in a 10-7 game in my opinion

and that's a sick way to watch your team piss away a win cause of your limp dick noodle arm QB

His arm is fine. He can make all the throws...

Mav 06-22-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9768554)
He won't have a top 10 D this year.



That's far too many. He's here to protect the football and stop-gap the Andy WCO.

Period.

That number is way above his average for the last 2 years (which is really all the pro-Alex guys want to look at.)

No, that's not all that I look at. I look at a myriad of things. The first thing being that he with few exceptions the past two years, always gives your team a chance to win, and gives playmakers a chance to make plays. Which with this team is fine. There aren't really any home run hitters at receiver. Bowe is going to flourish under Alex Smith, because Alex will give him the ball in space to make plays. So, the personnel on this team at the moment, really benefit Alex Smith. Having Jamaal Charles is also going to benefit him as well, especially if they are going to use him more in the passing game. Look for the screen play to be alive and well.


THat's my point. Alex found his gold zone his last two years.

Phat Andy wants him to top 30 passes per game...

You could be right, I think that it is going to be a give and take. Or at least for the best for the Chiefs, I believe that if Alex, and Andy can come to a middle ground on this, where Alex has some say so, and freedom to check down to a run, or to audible freely when he sees fit, that that could work. I am of the belief, and some of it naïve more than likely, that part of Alex Smiths cautious approach the past two years, had more to do with who was looking over his shoulder, and knowing that too many crucial mistakes could cost him his job by the chosen one. That is my hope, and that with no such worries here, and a coach that is 100 % behind him, perhaps he will open up a little more. I unlike many here, remember 2009, the end of it, where Alex Smith was let loose by Jimmy Raye, in the Raye-Gun, and played VERY WELL throwing the ball multiple times a game. Of course, he felt he had nothing to lose, and played like it. I am hoping he gets back to that Alex Smith.

mcaj22 06-22-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9768556)
His arm is fine. He can make all the throws...

yea 10 yards or less

Rausch 06-22-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768576)
I unlike many here, remember 2009, the end of it, where Alex Smith was let loose by Jimmy Raye, in the Raye-Gun, and played VERY WELL throwing the ball multiple times a game. Of course, he felt he had nothing to lose, and played like it. I am hoping he gets back to that Alex Smith.

His numbers and record were not good under the "Raye-Gun."

Rausch 06-22-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9768581)
yea 10 yards or less

He's a pansy that chooses to go that route.

He has the arm to throw anything...

Mav 06-22-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9768586)
His numbers and record were not good under the "Raye-Gun."

I am only talking about, from when he took over for Shaun Hill in 2009. At halftime of the Houston game, from that point, to the end of the season. He played very well. Then in 2010, after they drafted Iupati, and Anthony Davis, Mike Dingletary, forced Alex Smith, and the 49ers offense back to ground and Pound ball. And that's when Alex Smith sucked again. But in 2009, those last 7, 8 games, was the closest that Alex Smith has looked to being a competent qb who could actually lead the team, instead of being a part of it.

Rausch 06-22-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768592)
I am only talking about, from when he took over for Shaun Hill in 2009. At halftime of the Houston game, from that point, to the end of the season. He played very well. Then in 2010, after they drafted Iupati, and Anthony Davis, Mike Dingletary, forced Alex Smith, and the 49ers offense back to ground and Pound ball. And that's when Alex Smith sucked again.

The Harbaugh version of martyball is exactly what made him a respectable QB...

Mav 06-22-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9768597)
The Harbaugh version of martyball is exactly what made him a respectable QB...

I am not disagreeing with you at all. Not one bit. Harbaugh salvaged anything that could be construed as a career for the guy. No doubt about it. Good thing the Chiefs on paper have a very good oline, and great running game, and plenty of pass catching tight ends.

Ace Gunner 06-22-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9768556)
His arm is fine. He can make all the throws...

not a big arm, but ya, good enough for pro football. he did not have WR's that could even get down the field fast enough until the last few seasons. He and Jamaal plus Bowe should be a pretty good trio this season. Jamaal is a great WR in this offense because his footing is so good and he is a master at setting defenders to run seams.

Rausch 06-22-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9768610)
not a big arm, but ya, good enough for pro football. he did not have WR's that could even get down the field fast enough until the last few seasons. He and Jamaal plus Bowe should be a pretty good trio this season. Jamaal is a great WR in this offense because his footing is so good and he is a master at setting defenders to run seams.

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Ace Gunner 06-22-2013 11:18 AM

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Coogs 06-22-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9768592)
I am only talking about, from when he took over for Shaun Hill in 2009. At halftime of the Houston game, from that point, to the end of the season. He played very well. Then in 2010, after they drafted Iupati, and Anthony Davis, Mike Dingletary, forced Alex Smith, and the 49ers offense back to ground and Pound ball. And that's when Alex Smith sucked again. But in 2009, those last 7, 8 games, was the closest that Alex Smith has looked to being a competent qb who could actually lead the team, instead of being a part of it.

Last 7 games that season...

146 - 253, 58%, 1542 yards, 12 TD's, 6 INT's

That's averages of 36 passes per game for 220 yard per game average with 2:1 TD/INT.

Season would be over 3500 yards with roughly 32 TD's and 16 INT's.

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BigMeatballDave 06-22-2013 11:32 AM

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