I'll call it now:

1) Reach on a TE
3) HB (huge WTF moment...)
4) Slot WR
5) G...some guy projected to go bottom 3rd/top 4th falls and our FO acts like they won the lottery.
6) 0 ****s given. I'll be pissed off and fall down drunk by then...

So when you say "reach on a TE" you're saying like Ebron, Amaro, and ASJ are all there and they take the kid out of Cincinatti?

ROFL

Being a Chiefs' fan rules.

On the one side, I've seen people pick apart geno for an int in a game where he led a comeback.

On the other side, can't tell you how many times Fisher would make a small mistake in the first quarter and people went apeshit. Completely ignoring an otherwise solid performance.

Both sides are guilty of it. I disagree that there aren't people who want him to fail, just to further state their case against him as a 1.1 and I'm guessing we are going to hear more talk about him being a lousy backup unless he is anything short of a pro bowler.

That's literally the worst argument in the history of Chiefsplanet. Outside of a couple of obvious trolls, NOBODY wants the Chiefs, or any player on the Chiefs, to fail just so they can be right.

He was the 1st overall pick. Expecting him to be a pro bowler isn't unrealistic at all. Hell, expecting him to be one of the best 5 or 6 left tackles in football is completely justified.

I'm saying there will be better talent there and instead we'll take a lesser player...

No it isn't. If the draft was chock full of a ton of talent at QB and other "skill positions" and a team still picks a Tackle 1.1, then you can reasonably expect that guy to be some kind of aberration at the tackle position and come out on day one being among the best in the league. The only reason he went 1.1 is because the draft class was so poor. He went #1 overall pick, not because he is better than all the other tackles out there that have been drafted lower than him in years past, he went #1 because his draft class was week at the skill positions.

Excuses.

That's a shitty way to draft players.

If the draft class was so poor, and whoever you take at 1.1 is going tonged all this leeway and such, why would you not take te player with the highest potential upside and highest ability to change games.

Maybe some think different, but unless e becomes a top 5 player at his position, that's not a LT.

If your front office tells you"he was the best player available" and takes him first overall, he damn sure better perform at the very least adequately from day 1.

People would be a lot more comfortable moving the guy to lt if that were the case. When it turns out that the guy was physically overwhelmed at this level an was eventually benched, this is what you get

All I'm saying is that if Fischer came out in this years draft instead of last, what round would he fall to? 2nd? 3rd? I don't have any idea... I just know that had he come out this year, he wouldn't have near the expectation on his shoulders that he has now. So the expectation really has nothing to do with him and everything to do with the year that he was drafted.

So Dorsey just sucks at talent evaluation then. Got it.

I expect to see a significantly improved player this year. It was very clear that Fisher had most of the technique down, but was simply not strong.
Playing RT definitely hurt him too. The guy played on the left side in college, so putting him at RT was basically like changing everything on the fly.

Tough spot for all of the LT's. That's why none of them were that good last year.

And for the record, I don't really care about Fischer. I'm not setting myself up to be his defender. Feel free to bash him all you want as the biggest #1 draft bust in history if that's what you want. I'm fine with that. I just think had Manziell been in last years draft class then probably no one on here even knows who Fischer is.

So all this "hope for next year" bullshit is just that...

Dorsey doesn't have a ****ing clue.

I hope you realize you've caught yourself in a catch 22 here.

:facepalm: