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12-31-2014 10:41 AM |
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser
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Palmer has Larry Fitzgerald and an Oline, and calling Johnson and Hopkins a 'better 1-2 punch than Bowe and Kelce' is like saying Montana was slightly better than Boomer Esiason in the 80s. Fitz had a WAY better supporting cast around him, and still wound up with the same record as Smith. Orton had those numbers BECAUSE they had no running game, and he retired rather than be Buffalo's starter and HE NEVER WOULD HAVE COME BACK HERE ANYWAY.
I don't care what your name is to me. You're Claynus 2 to me.
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Larry Fitz is not what he once was... though he's still a quality receiver, the apparently huge gap you perceive between him and Bowe doesn't really track with reality. Larry Fitzgerald is 31 and has put up Dwayne Bowe-level numbers the past 3 years. He had 30 more yards than Bowe this season and a nearly identical YPC. He has averaged less than 12 YPC the previous two seasons, too.
The Cardinals' offensive line is a better unit than the Chiefs, but the Chiefs also would have a better OL had they kept those two 2nd round picks and used one of those on a quality OL player.
I said Fitz had better receiving options. Hopkins very good, but Johnson is also in that "Not as good as he used to be or you think he is" territory. Johnson an Hopkins combined for 161 catches and 2,146 yards (13.3 YPC). Bowe and Kelce combined for 127 catches and 1,616 yards (12.7 YPC). And they did that while garnering 37 percent of targets. Hopkins and Johnson got 56 percent of the Texans targets.
So yeah, Hopkins and Johnson are a better 1-2 punch. But it isn't this gaping cavern of a gap that you seem to think it is.
Every situation is a little bit different. I'm not saying any of those guys would have crushed the numbers that Alex Smith has put up the past two years. Just that any of them could have put up similar numbers (even if a little lesser) at a much lower cost, and it is unlikely to have really cost the Chiefs anything they "accomplished" last year or this year.
MAYBE they go 10-6 last year instead of 11-5. Still make the playoffs and still are the top wildcard.
MAYBE they lose a game this year they won. Still didn't make the playoffs, so it doesn't matter. (Unless you place great stock in a moral victory like back-to-back winning seasons).
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