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Hootie 08-03-2015 07:40 PM

In fact, that article even referred to it as a 4 year, 87.6 M extension

Hootie 08-03-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636421)
Dane, answer 1 question for me. Just 1. All I want is a dollar amount. Nothing more, nothing less.

If Seattle cuts Russell Wilson after the 2015 season for non injury related performance issues, how much money will they have to pay him for 2015?

Answer that for me.

So Dane, please, answer this without using words, just numbers. Thanks.

Saul Good 08-03-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636518)
and my response to you..

I'm talking about back before this discussion. It has ALWAYS been understood that, when talking about extensions, people are referring to additional years and new money.

If Alex Gordon signs an extension today paying him an additional $80,000,000 through the end of the 2019 season, people aren't going to say "he signed a 4.39 year contract worth $83,981,545". They're going to say he signed a 4 year extension worth $80,000,000...and only Dane will wonder why his contract will be up with 68 games left in the 2019 season.

DaneMcCloud 08-03-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636533)
I just read the LaConfara article for the first time. Lmao. Nowhere does it say they tore up his old deal. Nowhere. Lmao. Nowhere.

It says he receives a $31M signing bonus, 20M due in August, and 11 in April.

And he also says the deal is set up to put both sides back at the table in 2017.

Wow man. You're ridiculous, lmao. Now, answer my question you ****ing dipshit

It was Florio. Regardless, facts are facts, unless you're saying that Russell Wilson's contact doesn't exist.

For Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, the headline is that he signed a four-year, $87.6 million extension, with a new-money average of $21.9 million. The truth is that the last year of his current contract, at a base salary of $1.542 million, has been ripped up and replaced with a new five-year, $89.1 million deal.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...gin-to-emerge/

And how shocking is it that you're not reading a single link. Oh wait...

DaneMcCloud 08-03-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11636547)
I'm talking about back before this discussion. It has ALWAYS been understood that, when talking about extensions, people are referring to additional years and new money.

If Alex Gordon signs an extension today paying him an additional $80,000,000 through the end of the 2019 season, people aren't going to say "he signed a 4.39 year contract worth $83,981,545". They're going to say he signed a 4 year extension worth $80,000,000...and only Dane will wonder why his contract will be up with 68 games left in the 2019 season.

Except that every national sportwriter is stating it as a five year deal that averages $17.5 million.

As Florio stated, it's nonsense and the biggest fiction in assessing sports contracts.

But hey, don't let facts fool you.

Oh, BTW, what's it like to be Hootie's minion? Does he pay well? Is it all in pizza and cheap beer?

Hootie 08-03-2015 07:48 PM

Lmao. No. That is just Florio's wording. They didn't rip up his contract. What is 87.6 + 1.542?

The truth is, he received a 4 year extension for $87.6 million.

More than likely, it's a 3 year, $57M deal and they'll renegotiate before the 2018 season.

Hootie 08-03-2015 07:49 PM

It's actually 17.8M.

Aaron makes $850K more per year.

This has already been discussed.

SAUTO 08-03-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11636547)
I'm talking about back before this discussion. It has ALWAYS been understood that, when talking about extensions, people are referring to additional years and new money.

If Alex Gordon signs an extension today paying him an additional $80,000,000 through the end of the 2019 season, people aren't going to say "he signed a 4.39 year contract worth $83,981,545". They're going to say he signed a 4 year extension worth $80,000,000...and only Dane will wonder why his contract will be up with 68 games left in the 2019 season.

That's true. The issue is that even on spotrac there is a missing year in his contract. They mark out the final year of his old contract then say he signed a 4 year deal that runs through 5.

Hootie 08-03-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636421)
Dane, answer 1 question for me. Just 1. All I want is a dollar amount. Nothing more, nothing less.

If Seattle cuts Russell Wilson after the 2015 season for non injury related performance issues, how much money will they have to pay him for 2015?

Answer that for me.

Dane, still waiting for answer

SAUTO 08-03-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636563)
Lmao. No. That is just Florio's wording. They didn't rip up his contract. What is 87.6 + 1.542?

The truth is, he received a 4 year extension for $87.6 million.

More than likely, it's a 3 year, $57M deal and they'll renegotiate before the 2018 season.

If they didn't rip up his old contract why did his salary change this year?

Saul Good 08-03-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636566)
That's true. The issue is that even on spotrac there is a missing year in his contract. They mark out the final year of his old contract then say he signed a 4 year deal that runs through 5.

Thank you.

SAUTO 08-03-2015 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636568)
If they didn't rip up his old contract why did his salary change this year?

Hootie, still waiting for an answer...

DaneMcCloud 08-03-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11636567)
Dane, still waiting for answer

Why, is your eyesight failing as well as your kidneys?

I'd like for you to prove to us that Wilson is receiving $31 million this year, as you claimed.

SAUTO 08-03-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636570)
Hootie, still waiting for an answer...

Hootie, still waiting on that answer

Hootie 08-03-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11636570)
Hootie, still waiting for an answer...

I don't really have an answer. Maybe they did? I never really looked into it.

To me, it looks like a 3 year, $57M deal, which is basically fully guaranteed unless the Hawks cut Russell for performance related issues.

It would be tough for Seattle to cut him after giving him $31M to sign.


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