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Chiefspants 02-19-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14114181)
I'm curious to see how Hosmer and Machado get along. Not a real great history there. Hos was close to Ventura and took his number in SD and we all remember what happened between Ace and Machado. I can't imagine either guy has a high opinion of each other.

I was about to say, a move like this were made with zero regard for the locker room - which was already an issue with Hos and Myers against their manager last year. Hosmer also went from being "the guy" to second fiddle (in both status and production). It'll be interesting to see how Hos responds to that.

Billy Beane liked to pretend locker room issues didn't matter for the first decade or so that he was with the A's - but now it's among his top priorities and for a reason. You can have all the talent in the world, but as the Nats showed us, it doesn't matter if the locker room hates each other.

dallaschiefsfan 02-19-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14114181)
I'm curious to see how Hosmer and Machado get along. Not a real great history there. Hos was close to Ventura and took his number in SD and we all remember what happened between Ace and Machado. I can't imagine either guy has a high opinion of each other.

Yeah...feels like a desperate move on the Padres part. They have plenty of talent coming up if they just be patient and let it materialize. I don't think they need Machado to push them over the top...and not sure he's the right player to bring everyone else up with him over the top. When has he ever done that? Dodgers were already heading to their title without him.

Prison Bitch 02-19-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 14114537)
Yeah...feels like a desperate move on the Padres part. They have plenty of talent coming up if they just be patient and let it materialize. I don't think they need Machado to push them over the top...and not sure he's the right player to bring everyone else up with him over the top. When has he ever done that? Dodgers were already heading to their title without him.

You mean NL title right? Nobody was beating Boston.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2019 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 14114537)
Yeah...feels like a desperate move on the Padres part. They have plenty of talent coming up if they just be patient and let it materialize. I don't think they need Machado to push them over the top...and not sure he's the right player to bring everyone else up with him over the top. When has he ever done that? Dodgers were already heading to their title without him.


The Dodgers were drastically better with him than without him. Believe I saw a .040 jump in win percentage once he was acquired.

He’s a good sign for the Padres in that he is young and fits their contention window. They don’t have a true slugger in their minor league system, and Machado gives them that. That’s huge.

They’ll also have some established hitters at the MLB level as their young guys come up, which will relieve pressure and expectations quite a bit.

dallaschiefsfan 02-19-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14114615)
You mean NL title right? Nobody was beating Boston.

yup

dallaschiefsfan 02-19-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14114815)
The Dodgers were drastically better with him than without him. Believe I saw a .040 jump in win percentage once he was acquired.

He’s a good sign for the Padres in that he is young and fits their contention window. They don’t have a true slugger in their minor league system, and Machado gives them that. That’s huge.

They’ll also have some established hitters at the MLB level as their young guys come up, which will relieve pressure and expectations quite a bit.

That might be true, but color me skeptical on the long-term affects of Machado on a team that young. Clubhouse culture is not everything...but it's something. I don't follow the Orioles closely, but he always struck me as me-first player. I guess we'll see. And I'm not really crying about this signing anyway...means the White Sox have one less bat.

tyton75 02-19-2019 04:45 PM

I really think they are going to hate the last 4 years of that contract. Or they are really hoping that the NL has a rule change and starts using the DH.

dlphg9 02-19-2019 04:57 PM

I just have a feeling the Padres will be regretting what they did in free agency this year and last year pretty quick. Maybe as quick as this year.

Chris Meck 02-19-2019 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14114915)
I just have a feeling the Padres will be regretting what they did in free agency this year and last year pretty quick. Maybe as quick as this year.

How do you think they feel about the Hosmer deal? ROFL

FringeNC 02-19-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14114815)
The Dodgers were drastically better with him than without him. Believe I saw a .040 jump in win percentage once he was acquired.

He’s a good sign for the Padres in that he is young and fits their contention window. They don’t have a true slugger in their minor league system, and Machado gives them that. That’s huge.

They’ll also have some established hitters at the MLB level as their young guys come up, which will relieve pressure and expectations quite a bit.

He'll generate WARs, but unless the Padres improve soon, the revenue value of those WARs isn't very high. Who cares if you win 74 games or 79 games?

Sassy Squatch 02-19-2019 07:36 PM

Man. There's a ton of highly paid douche in that clubhouse now. Go and add Harper while you're at it.

lewdog 02-19-2019 07:37 PM

San Diego.

Where careers go to die.

Machado is douchey. Hope the above continues.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14115201)
He'll generate WARs, but unless the Padres improve soon, the revenue value of those WARs isn't very high. Who cares if you win 74 games or 79 games?


Their improvement is imminent. Their wave of young talent rivals what KC had coming in 2011, and they have far more present talent on the team than the 2010 Royals.

Padres will be playoff contenders in 2020.

Chiefspants 02-19-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14115391)
Their improvement is imminent. Their wave of young talent rivals what KC had coming in 2011, and they have far more present talent on the team than the 2010 Royals.

Padres will be playoff contenders in 2020.

Agreed.

Great Expectations 02-19-2019 09:39 PM

The Padres are a few pitchers away from a World Series win. If the club house isn’t a complete dumpster fire, they should be one of the top 5 favorites to win it all next year.


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