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PHOG 03-19-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16864364)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That should've been me!

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RunKC 03-19-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16864364)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Saint Omni, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> star LT Laremy Tunsil is once again the highest-paid tackle in NFL history, securing a 3-year deal worth $75M with $50M fully guaranteed and $60M in total guarantees. The blindside protector does a true reset on the market. Tunsil represented himself. <a href="https://t.co/pEC68BRPSu">pic.twitter.com/pEC68BRPSu</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1637450940067332103?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Orlando Brown Jr demanded this type of deal per Pro Football Talk and Veach told him to **** off.

Then he gets a young capable Tackle with the right traits for 80% of the cost of the highest paid guy.

Goddam I love Brett Veach

Megatron96 03-19-2023 11:48 AM

Never seemed very likely that Tunsil would be traded, but it was interesting to think about for a while. Glad Veach didn't get sucked into overpaying for Tunsil at the end of the day. Too bad Tunsil will never win a SB.

Skyy God 03-19-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16864440)
Orlando Brown Jr demanded this type of deal per Pro Football Talk and Veach told him to **** off.

Then he gets a young capable Tackle with the right traits for 80% of the cost of the highest paid guy.

Goddam I love Brett Veach

He’s clearly learned his lesson about trading high picks for players demanding top of market contracts.

BossChief 03-19-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16864493)
He’s clearly learned his lesson about trading high picks for players demanding top of market contracts.

Possibly. There were multiple reports that Veach was actively trying to trade for him this offseason snd that Veach was actively trying to trade for AJ Brown last offseason.

I think he learned that he needs to go into negotiations with a firm line that he won’t cross.

We saw it with Silverback, AJ and now Tunsil.

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16864422)
So a whole lot of drama for nothing?

Nobody in their right mind thought he was coming to KC.

Chief Pagan 03-19-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16864558)
Nobody in their right mind thought he was coming to KC.

True, but a lot of people were very convinced that KC was resigning Brown and not too many saw Taylor...

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16864562)
True, but a lot of people were very convinced that KC was resigning Brown and not too many saw Taylor...

Neither Brown nor Taylor required giving up premium picks.

Megatron96 03-19-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16864565)
Neither Brown nor Taylor required giving up premium picks.

Yeah, he likely would've required a 1st just to ante up then who knows? But probably multiple picks to close the deal, and no way Veach would've gone there.

chiefforlife 03-19-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864171)
I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.

Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.

ForeverIowan 03-19-2023 01:29 PM

I'm fine with it. Would have taken a ton of high draft picks and would have killed our cap situation for the next several years. All in on grabbing OBJ or Hopkins and making a huge trade up in the draft for our franchise left tackle

ThyKingdomCome15 03-19-2023 01:59 PM

It was a fun conversation and one worth entertaining. The smoke was real, Veach scoped it out. After signing Taylor there was no way we were going to trade for Tunsil. I believe Taylor was Plan C after Orlando and Tunsil. Veach works fast.

In the end we saved a lot of money and draft capitol by not moving on Tunsil.

kccrow 03-19-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16864585)
Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.

After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
for
#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.

Balto 03-19-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16864499)
Possibly. There were multiple reports that Veach was actively trying to trade for him this offseason snd that Veach was actively trying to trade for AJ Brown last offseason.

I think he learned that he needs to go into negotiations with a firm line that he won’t cross.

We saw it with Silverback, AJ and now Tunsil.

Reports are that Veach actually offered more than the 9ers did for Silverback but he picked to stay in the bay.

Pitt Gorilla 03-19-2023 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16864910)
After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
for
#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.

Yikes. Hard pass for me.


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