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nychief 12-11-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17852820)
Because he's a lefthanded-hitting 3B with upside? It hasn't clicked for Baty at the MLB level yet, but he is just a season removed from posting an OPS over 1000 at AAA.



Stearns isn't going to give him away. This notion that JJ has floated that we are going tade for bat, I find puzzling. We had one chip (Singer, who in retrospect we should have held onto for a couple more weeks after seeing he free agent starting market) and we used it... who else do we have that has value to that won't cripple our team by giving up.

Freddy? Maybe? He's a backup catcher.

Our system is still anemic, especially in the pitching department.


I just wonder what they think they have of value that we can give up after Singer.

nychief 12-11-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17852853)
Stearns isn't going to give him away. This notion that JJ has floated that we are going tade for bat, I find puzzling. We had one chip (Singer, who in retrospect we should have held onto for a couple more weeks after seeing he free agent starting market) and we used it... who else do we have that has value to that won't cripple our team by giving up.

Freddy? Maybe? He's a backup catcher.

Our system is still anemic, especially in the pitching department.


I just wonder what they think they have of value that we can give up after Singer.


Annnnnd right on que:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/...gel-zerpa.html

duncan_idaho 12-11-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17852853)
Stearns isn't going to give him away. This notion that JJ has floated that we are going tade for bat, I find puzzling. We had one chip (Singer, who in retrospect we should have held onto for a couple more weeks after seeing he free agent starting market) and we used it... who else do we have that has value to that won't cripple our team by giving up.

Freddy? Maybe? He's a backup catcher.

Our system is still anemic, especially in the pitching department.


I just wonder what they think they have of value that we can give up after Singer.

I saw some Mets folks talking about relief help, specifically lefthanded relief help. Zerpa, Lynch both would fit the bill. I think KC could comfortably move from either.

The Royals also have a nice little surplus of C options behind Blake Mitchell in Carter Jansen (whose defense has taken a step forward, according to reports I've seen). Jensen is lined up pretty closely to Blake Mitchell in terms of ETA, and youngster Ramon Ramirez has had an exciting early return (KC signed him for like $59k, and he has surpassed expectations as a hitter and receiver).

Zerpa or Lynch for Baty would feel like a steal. It's possible it doesn't work, of course, but a year ago the Mets would have hung up the phone, laughing, at that suggestion.

Baty's playing time was inconsistent this year because the Mets were in contention and had a lot of competition for options. He might get a better "run" of PT and chance to get his feet under him in KC, where he has less competition for PT.

BWillie 12-11-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17852820)
Because he's a lefthanded-hitting 3B with upside? It hasn't clicked for Baty at the MLB level yet, but he is just a season removed from posting an OPS over 1000 at AAA.

In 104 ABs at AAA that season.

ChiefsCountry 12-11-2024 10:06 AM

Damn the Rangers traded for Jake Burger.

duncan_idaho 12-11-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17852924)
In 104 ABs at AAA that season.


Fair point, but he put up a similar season the year before in a much larger sample.

Career AAA numbers are .273/.368/.531 over 416 PAs with 52:92 BB:K ratio. That’s about a 12 percent walk rate and 24 percent K rate.

And that includes a tough stretch at AAA in 2024.

It is possible he has some flaws that keep that promise from showing at the MLB level. It’s also possible the up-and-down uncertainty of 2024 messed up his plate performance at all levels.

If KC could get him in exchange for a lefty reliever it’s a no-brainer move.

nychief 12-11-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17852949)
Damn the Rangers traded for Jake Burger.



low on base 1st baseman... I dunno... i'm not too upset.

dlphg9 12-11-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17852541)
Draft lottery in MLB is so ****ed.

Nationals get the #1 overall pick.

1. Nationals
2. Angels
3. Mariners (of course)
4. Rockies (kinda screwed)
5. Cardinals (of course)
6. Pirates
7. Marlins (screwed)
8. Blue Jays
9. Reds
10. White Sox (screwed, but **** em)
11. Athletics
12. Rangers
13. Giants
14. Rays
15. Red Sox
16. Twins
17. Cubs
18. D-Backs

Being the worst team ever and getting the #10 pick is ****ing wild.

BWillie 12-11-2024 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17852984)
Fair point, but he put up a similar season the year before in a much larger sample.

Career AAA numbers are .273/.368/.531 over 416 PAs with 52:92 BB:K ratio. That’s about a 12 percent walk rate and 24 percent K rate.

And that includes a tough stretch at AAA in 2024.

It is possible he has some flaws that keep that promise from showing at the MLB level. It’s also possible the up-and-down uncertainty of 2024 messed up his plate performance at all levels.

If KC could get him in exchange for a lefty reliever it’s a no-brainer move.

Just feels like a half measure. Thats all we ever do with signing OF. Just get a GUY.

duncan_idaho 12-11-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17853178)
Just feels like a half measure. Thats all we ever do with signing OF. Just get a GUY.

I don't think pursuing a former consensus top 50 prospect with five years of control remaining and a strong track record of consistent success with no red flag markers is a half measure.

He's had about 500 MLB at-bats stretched over 3 seasons that haven't been great, but there would be a lot of reason to dream about him reaching his upside/potential in KC.

BWillie 12-11-2024 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17853333)
I don't think pursuing a former consensus top 50 prospect with five years of control remaining and a strong track record of consistent success with no red flag markers is a half measure.

He's had about 500 MLB at-bats stretched over 3 seasons that haven't been great, but there would be a lot of reason to dream about him reaching his upside/potential in KC.

Feels Brett Phillips-y. Who is probably working at Burger King now.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 12-11-2024 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17853805)
Feels Brett Phillips-y. Who is probably working at Burger King now.

Last I heard, Phillips was in the Yankees organization attempting a comeback as a pitcher. Apparently, he's hitting upper 90's with his fastball and is turning some heads.

Coach 12-11-2024 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 17853821)
Last I heard, Phillips was in the Yankees organization attempting a comeback as a pitcher. Apparently, he's hitting upper 90's with his fastball and is turning some heads.

Wouldn't surprise me if that's true. I do recall him having a hell of an arm out there in the OF.

<iframe src="https://streamable.com/m/statcast-phillips-99-mph-throw-c2389663383?partnerId=web_video-playback-page_video-share" width="560" height="315"></iframe>
https://www.mlb.com/video/statcast-p...ow-c2389663383

tk13 12-11-2024 11:24 PM

You'd have to search but Phillips absolutely had outfield throws at 100+ mph. Not sure if he ever did that with the Royals though.

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