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smithandrew051 01-20-2025 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17925167)
Yeah - Tranquill's every bit the problem trying to spy Allen as Bolton is. He's not explosive at this stage of his career and can very easily be run over anyway. Chenal won't be a ton better because he doesn't have the lateral agility. Allen can pretty easily throw the brakes on and get around Leo.

The only guy we've had over the years with the size, speed, agility and aggression to really be a good matchup for Allen was Gay.

Everyone else is missing something.

When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

mr. tegu 01-20-2025 11:15 AM

I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.

Chargem 01-20-2025 11:19 AM

Jaylen Watson, Hollywood Brown, Charles Omenihu all missing from the first match up, feels like the Chiefs got a lot better since that meeting

RealSNR 01-20-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

You've been perusing our board for a few years but you don't seem to understand our culture and ways.

This may not be a good place for you to be.

duncan_idaho 01-20-2025 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17925184)
I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.


This is the type of thing I’m talking about. They could have spammed stuff to Worthy, and worked the ball to the backs in the flats, a LOT more than they did against Buffalo in November. But they didn’t.

They didn’t roll out anything designed to take advantage of the power rush DL left, spy shades to right thing.

They didn’t spy Allen at all, let alone with one of the safeties who seems like a good matchup for that (Conner/Reid/Hicks).

And KC didn’t have Brown at receiver or Watson at corner. Both allow those units to play differently and attack differently.

UChieffyBugger 01-20-2025 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17925182)
When you spy, you’re sacrificing something somewhere else.

If you don’t have a guy that can do it well, then you aren’t generating enough of a benefit to overcome the negative.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t spy right away at least.

But what would we be sacrificing? Have to spy Allen so he can't keep scrambling for first downs and keeping the ball out of Pat's hands. Everything they do is built around the run game and Allen's legs. Yes he can throw the ball but look at his passing stats last night? They aren't using Coleman or Cooper. It's pretty much like playing the Ravens at this point.

Chiefspants 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

Reid is interesting as a potential spy, but then you’re taking him off from covering Allen’s favorite targets (his TE’s). I’m almost thinking it’d be more beneficial if we didn’t have a designated spy but instead rolled the dice and rotated one to spy in high leverage moments.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17925245)
This is the type of thing I’m talking about. They could have spammed stuff to Worthy, and worked the ball to the backs in the flats, a LOT more than they did against Buffalo in November. But they didn’t.

They didn’t roll out anything designed to take advantage of the power rush DL left, spy shades to right thing.

They didn’t spy Allen at all, let alone with one of the safeties who seems like a good matchup for that (Conner/Reid/Hicks).

And KC didn’t have Brown at receiver or Watson at corner. Both allow those units to play differently and attack differently.

Now you might be onto something.

Hicks.

Hicks COULD spy Allen, couldn't he? Hadn't really thought about him.

Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17925100)
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Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace Frog (Post 17925056)
Stay classy.

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Straight, No Chaser 01-20-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17925184)
I’m pretty convinced that in the first matchup they went to Worthy early and often to see what would work and once they saw the results they just completely shut down plays to him to reduce future tape for the matchup. It’s the only explanation for going away from something that was working so well.

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Iconic 01-20-2025 11:40 AM

what lost us the game in the regular season was self-inflicted. mahomes int came off an accidental over throw as he fell face first in the ground. td bomb to worthy was mahomes just leading him too far out to the sideline. and in the most important play of that game, spags decided to run a vanilla shell with no spy to stop allen when they only needed 3 yards for a first.

these are things we just simply never do in the playoffs. the gear will be put into overdrive. on paper we are more talented. our coaches are better. our qb is better. far more experience. there's no excuses man - get the job done. we should and will clock these ****ers in the mouth at arrowhead and punch our ticket to a 3-peat.

RealSNR 01-20-2025 11:42 AM

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Mr. Plow 01-20-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17924826)
We’re going to knuckle **** their taints

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TEX 01-20-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17925308)
what lost us the game in the regular season was self-inflicted. mahomes int came off an accidental over throw as he fell face first in the ground. td bomb to worthy was mahomes just leading him too far out to the sideline. and in the most important play of that game, spags decided to run a vanilla shell with no spy to stop allen when they only needed 3 years for a first.

these are things we just simply never do in the playoffs. the gear will be put into overdrive. on paper we are more talented. our coaches are better. our qb is better. far more experienced. there's no excuses man - get the job done. we should and will clock these ****ers in the mouth at arrowhead and punch our ticket to a 3-peat.

The most important key to winning the game, will be to protect Mahomes. If he has time to throw, the KC wins.


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