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RustShack 08-08-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15775277)
We good

No you aren’t.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-08-2021 04:29 PM

Daurice Fountain is just a straight up athlete. Interesting battle between him and Pringle. With that said the Colts let him go for a season. We'll see.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dauric...c-a73ee02f382e

Easy 6 08-08-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15775287)
No you aren’t.

Well that’s no way to talk to a friend :harumph:

Bowser 08-08-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15775171)
Word coming out of camp over the last few days is Daurice Fountain is really starting to impress people. His physical make-up and speed could be deadly in this offence if he manages to learn the playbook quickly.

I had legitimately never heard of this kid.

https://www.chiefs.com/team/players-...rice-fountain/

Bowser 08-08-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15775273)
Tanoh Kpassagnon covered CJ Spiller on a wheel route.

Dexter McCluster juked so hard that he blew his shoes out.

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15775275)
No Printers to Sippio with Grigsby and Bennie Sapp in coverage?

Siavii, Tank, and Turk collapsing the pocket?

https://www.analyticsmania.com/wp-co...-flashback.gif

CasselGotPeedOn 08-08-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15775284)
Mahomes showing off his MOVES

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cringe <a href="https://t.co/tWhIrNzAP3">pic.twitter.com/tWhIrNzAP3</a></p>&mdash; Cable Haver (@SullyChiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/SullyChiefs/status/1424494380476518402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Someone needs to figure out how to get him banned from tik tok.

Kman34 08-08-2021 04:54 PM

Snoop Minnis is putting clown shoes on the defense this camp..

RustShack 08-08-2021 04:57 PM

Not Chiefs TC news, but I was blown away to see the Seahawks signed a TE, who was a Center/F on a bad Iowa State basketball team, after transferring from a bad Nebraska team.

Obviously rooting for him to make their PS, just didn’t expect it lol.

Dayze 08-08-2021 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 15775306)

LMAO

Marcellus 08-08-2021 05:16 PM

The old training camp references have jumped the shark.

(The gifs not so much).

CasselGotPeedOn 08-08-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 15775340)
The old training camp references have jumped the shark.

(The gifs not so much).

Blackledge looks awesome. Could end up as the best QB in his class.

smithandrew051 08-08-2021 05:37 PM

David Mims is the LT of the future. Dude pancaked Glenn Dorsey. Dorsey even faked an injury afterwards.

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15775284)
Mahomes showing off his MOVES

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cringe <a href="https://t.co/tWhIrNzAP3">pic.twitter.com/tWhIrNzAP3</a></p>&mdash; Cable Haver (@SullyChiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/SullyChiefs/status/1424494380476518402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Are TikToks made to be as cringe worthy as possible? I genuinely don't understand what the **** the point is if that's not the case.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-08-2021 06:12 PM

I didn't realize Andrew Wylie was 6'6" and 310 pounds. Perhaps they only keep him around because he's huge.

Skyy God 08-08-2021 06:13 PM

Boericter smoking CBs on go routes.

Titty Meat 08-08-2021 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15775284)
Mahomes showing off his MOVES

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cringe <a href="https://t.co/tWhIrNzAP3">pic.twitter.com/tWhIrNzAP3</a></p>&mdash; Cable Haver (@SullyChiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/SullyChiefs/status/1424494380476518402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That dude is wild homo

RealSNR 08-08-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15775399)
That dude is wild homo


“Look I know I sound gay and I’m into gay shit but I’m not gay.”

That must be one faaaabulous closet he’s in, because he apparently doesn’t want to leave

ThyKingdomCome15 08-08-2021 06:29 PM

I kinda feel bad for him. He lives his life in Patrick's shadow.

BryanBusby 08-08-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15775322)
Not Chiefs TC news, but I was blown away to see the Seahawks signed a TE, who was a Center/F on a bad Iowa State basketball team, after transferring from a bad Nebraska team.

Obviously rooting for him to make their PS, just didn’t expect it lol.

Riveting!

Dante84 08-08-2021 06:50 PM

Boomer Grigsby is looking like the next Peyton Hillis!!1

KCUnited 08-08-2021 06:56 PM

Zach Thomas looking like Lance Armstrong

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2021 07:15 PM

Hmm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A surprise: Multiple team execs believe <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> corner C.J. Henderson -- the ninth overall pick in 2020 -- is available via trade. Jacksonville has given impression in some league circles that it&#39;s shopping Henderson, a high-pedigree player one year into rookie deal.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1424510338918084615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 08-08-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15775448)
Hmm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A surprise: Multiple team execs believe <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> corner C.J. Henderson -- the ninth overall pick in 2020 -- is available via trade. Jacksonville has given impression in some league circles that it&#39;s shopping Henderson, a high-pedigree player one year into rookie deal.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1424510338918084615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just saw that.

If Veach and our FO/scouts liked him a lot last year, it’s worth a shot.

chop 08-08-2021 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15775174)
Literally said this the instant he was signed. Dude is a beast.

Define "beast" because I haven't seen any stats that would make me see him as a promising prospect. I've never seen him play so I'm just curious, what has he done that anyone would consider him a beast? I'm not attacking you, I'm just looking for your insight on the player.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-08-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15775448)
Hmm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A surprise: Multiple team execs believe <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> corner C.J. Henderson -- the ninth overall pick in 2020 -- is available via trade. Jacksonville has given impression in some league circles that it&#39;s shopping Henderson, a high-pedigree player one year into rookie deal.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1424510338918084615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I value fluidity in corners. He's kinda stiff. With that said I would trade them Andrew Wylie and a bag of chips.

BigRedChief 08-08-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15775119)
It'd be sad to see Tyran go but I do understand it.

I'm wondering if this could be Tyreek's last year too. I certainly hope not. But he would bring a lot of draft capitol.

If you are not going to make Hill a gigantic long term contract, my as well trade him a year early and get the huge draft pick haul he would bring.

My preference is to pay the man but in Veach we trust.

ThyKingdomCome15 08-08-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775469)
If you are not going to make Hill a gigantic long term contract, my as well trade him a year early and get the huge draft pick haul he would bring.

My preference is to pay the man but in Veach we trust.

I agree with that.

Megatron96 08-08-2021 07:54 PM

Hill isn't going anywhere for several years at least.

Chief Roundup 08-08-2021 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775469)
If you are not going to make Hill a gigantic long term contract, my as well trade him a year early and get the huge draft pick haul he would bring.

My preference is to pay the man but in Veach we trust.

If we want to extend him we should do it basically before Davante Adams, Smith-Schuster, and whomever else I am forgetting, get new deals and drive the price up any higher. It will probably take between $20 and $25M AAV with half guaranteed to keep Tyreek. He will be 28 when this contract expires in 2022.

BigRedChief 08-08-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15775472)
I agree with that.

you don’t want to go the “franchise tag” route. He holds out and the negative energy bleeds over into the locker room. One side knows it’s a business, salary cap etc. others think he is a great locker room guy, future HOF player, pay the man.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-08-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775485)
If we want to extend him we should do it basically before Davante Adams, Smith-Schuster, and whomever else I am forgetting, get new deals and drive the price up any higher. It will probably take between $20 and $25M AAV with half guaranteed to keep Tyreek. He will be 28 when this contract expires in 2022.

I don't think Hill will demand an outrageous contract . We have the Mahomes effect going on here. Hill is no dummy and knows he's in the right place for a HOF career.

Megbert 08-08-2021 08:14 PM

First unofficial depth chart https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4fcad10ea0.jpg

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BigRedChief 08-08-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775485)
If we want to extend him we should do it basically before Davante Adams, Smith-Schuster, and whomever else I am forgetting, get new deals and drive the price up any higher. It will probably take between $20 and $25M AAV with half guaranteed to keep Tyreek. He will be 28 when this contract expires in 2022.

If you are going to sign him, you have to do it early in the off season. To avoid what you said. And you need to do Brown in the off season too. The cap will go up with the new deal but we can’t pay both of them top $ and resign the honey Badger too. There is just no way you can fit all those top $ salaries under the cap.

BigRedChief 08-08-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Megbert (Post 15775489)
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Reid goes with 3 rookies on the same side of the OL?:hmmm:

Dante84 08-08-2021 08:28 PM

Man Key jumped Watts already. He’s legit making this roster.

Jamie 08-08-2021 08:34 PM

I know we shouldn't read too much into an unofficial training camp depth chart, but Remmers at #2 LT makes me think that Niang is actually in the lead for starting RT and it's not just Remmers' injury. Also god help us if Remmers' actually has to play LT this year.

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15775507)
I know we shouldn't read too much into an unofficial training camp depth chart, but Remmers at #2 LT makes me think that Niang is actually in the lead for starting RT and it's not just Remmers' injury. Also god help us if Remmers' actually has to play LT this year.

Niang would slide to LT I'm assuming. No way you out Remmers at LT ever again unless it's an absolute last resort.

OKchiefs 08-08-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Megbert (Post 15775489)
First unofficial depth chart https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4fcad10ea0.jpg

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Going to resist the urge to read too much into this being an unofficial depth chart in early August, but come week 1 I'm going to be thoroughly pissed if Sorensen still has the starting role over Thornhill.

Also, OL depth chart is night and day from last year but seems like we got a lot riding on Brown staying healthy at LT. Doesn't really seem like there is a swing tackle option, does Niang switch over to LT if Brown is unavailable at all? I think by now we should know well enough that they should want no part of Remmers playing at LT.

RealSNR 08-08-2021 08:42 PM

Who the **** is Chris Lammons?

PattyFlakes 08-08-2021 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775500)
Reid goes with 3 rookies on the same side of the OL?:hmmm:

If those three are outperforming their veteran competition going into the regular season then sure. Still got a ways to go though.

sedated 08-08-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15775509)
Niang would slide to LT I'm assuming. No way you out Remmers at LT ever again unless it's an absolute last resort.

Remmers isn't listed as the backup RT, don't think that depth chart means much

OKchiefs 08-08-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15775509)
Niang would slide to LT I'm assuming. No way you out Remmers at LT ever again unless it's an absolute last resort.

That's probably the better option, but I kind of feel like having to switch multiple players because of a single injury creates additional problems.

Kiimo 08-08-2021 08:55 PM

Who cares what videos Mahomes' brother makes on Tik Tok? Who cares what his sexuality is?



It's way more cringe the fact that you old white rednecks give a shit and follow him (or anyone else in Mahomes' entourage) around on social media.

OKchiefs 08-08-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15775523)
Who cares what videos Mahomes' brother makes on Tik Tok? Who cares what his sexuality is?



It's way more cringe the fact that you old white rednecks give a shit and follow him (or anyone else in Mahomes' entourage) around on social media.

What the **** are you talking about?

saphojunkie 08-08-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15775527)
What the **** are you talking about?

Go back one page

RealSNR 08-08-2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15775521)
That's probably the better option, but I kind of feel like having to switch multiple players because of a single injury creates additional problems.

Is Niang the best RT? Then play him at RT.

We won a Super Bowl with Cameron ****ing Erving as our swing tackle.

Kiimo 08-08-2021 11:39 PM

God I remember the day I tried to talk myself into Cam Erving being okay.

Rare swing and a miss for Veach

Skyy God 08-08-2021 11:56 PM

6 rookies with the 1s and 2s, with our roster, is impressive.

Jamie 08-09-2021 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15775592)
God I remember the day I tried to talk myself into Cam Erving being okay.

I don't know if this is more sad or funny, but Carolina has Cam Erving penciled in as their starting left tackle right now. Not because of injury either, that's their plan.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-09-2021 12:15 AM

What ever happened to Osemele? Did he end up signing with another team.

UChieffyBugger 08-09-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Megbert (Post 15775489)
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People are talking about the back-up LT spot but right now Prince Tega has been taking all the reps at LT with the twos so maybe he has a chance of making the roster?? It's been well known within the game that Prince has tons of talent...his only issue has been injuries. I hope he gets plenty of chances in the preseason games and if he comes through them well he should make the roster imo.

Devon Key looks like a lock right now for sure as does Fortson. Excited to see how everyone does in the games coming as that's we'll see who rises to the occasion.

ChiefsFanatic 08-09-2021 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15775523)
Who cares what videos Mahomes' brother makes on Tik Tok? Who cares what his sexuality is?



It's way more cringe the fact that you old white rednecks give a shit and follow him (or anyone else in Mahomes' entourage) around on social media.

This. So much this.

Pro Tip: If you don't like Patrick's brother, and don't like his social media posts, including TikTok, don't follow him or watch his videos. It's that simple.

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ThyKingdomCome15 08-09-2021 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15775523)
Who cares what videos Mahomes' brother makes on Tik Tok? Who cares what his sexuality is?



It's way more cringe the fact that you old white rednecks give a shit and follow him (or anyone else in Mahomes' entourage) around on social media.

If it's no big deal then don't make it one.

BryanBusby 08-09-2021 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15775606)
I don't know if this is more sad or funny, but Carolina has Cam Erving penciled in as their starting left tackle right now. Not because of injury either, that's their plan.

Oh my god

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15775507)
I know we shouldn't read too much into an unofficial training camp depth chart, but Remmers at #2 LT makes me think that Niang is actually in the lead for starting RT and it's not just Remmers' injury. Also god help us if Remmers' actually has to play LT this year.

Some intern making minimum wage makes these charts.

JPH83 08-09-2021 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15775510)
Going to resist the urge to read too much into this being an unofficial depth chart in early August, but come week 1 I'm going to be thoroughly pissed if Sorensen still has the starting role over Thornhill.

Also, OL depth chart is night and day from last year but seems like we got a lot riding on Brown staying healthy at LT. Doesn't really seem like there is a swing tackle option, does Niang switch over to LT if Brown is unavailable at all? I think by now we should know well enough that they should want no part of Remmers playing at LT.

Agree re Brown. The others I'd like to see would be Baker pushing Lammons and/or Keyes down. Gray edging ahead of Bell. Maybe Charlton or Kaindoh pushing down Okafor, who I'm not keen on.

If this is anything like accurate it would be great to see Mike Hughes work out. Dream situation is both he and Baker are serviceable but if one steps up that's been great business.

-King- 08-09-2021 03:56 AM

The marketing/pr department makes the first few depth charts. The real one likely won't be released until after the 2nd preseason game

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-09-2021 04:21 AM

Jones really is a full time DE now. Wow. He may not make the pro bowl now. He was the second best DT in the league and now he’s probably only the 5th or 6th best DE in the league

Red Dawg 08-09-2021 05:13 AM

Good to see Mahomes is leading in the QB competition. I think he's our best option.

duncan_idaho 08-09-2021 06:43 AM

The depth I hope to see by the start of the actual season:

QB Mahomes/Henne
RB Edwards-Helaire/McKinnon (Darrel Williams)
WR Hill/Powell(Pringle)
WR Hardman/Powell (Pringle)
WR Robinson/Powell (Pringle)
TE Kelce/Gray (Bell)

LT Brown/Niang (Remmers)
LG Thuney/Allegretti
C Humphrey/Blythe
RG Smith/Long (Wylie)
RT Niang/Remmers

RDE Clark/Danna
DT Nnadi/Saunders
DT Reed/Wharton
LDE Jones/Kaindoh (Okafor)

MLB Hitchens/Bolton (Niemann)
LB Gay/Bolton(Niemann)

CB Ward/Baker
CB Sneed/Keyes
Nickel Hughes/Fenton
S Thornhill (Sorenson)/SorensonThornhill
S Mathieu/Key

Guys in bold are guys I expect to still, annoyingly, have a worse replacement listed. Guy in () are said replacement

ThaVirus 08-09-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15775648)
Jones really is a full time DE now. Wow. He may not make the pro bowl now. He was the second best DT in the league and now he’s probably only the 5th or 6th best DE in the league

Hopefully he has an 18-sack season and kills all this conjecture, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is still listed as a DT on Pro Bowl and All-Pro ballots.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15775678)
The depth I hope to see by the start of the actual season:

QB Mahomes/Henne
RB Edwards-Helaire/McKinnon (Darrel Williams)
WR Hill/Powell(Pringle)
WR Hardman/Powell (Pringle)
WR Robinson/Powell (Pringle)
TE Kelce/Gray (Bell)

LT Brown/Niang (Remmers)
LG Thuney/Allegretti
C Humphrey/Blythe
RG Smith/Long (Wylie)
RT Niang/Remmers

RDE Clark/Danna
DT Nnadi/Saunders
DT Reed/Wharton
LDE Jones/Kaindoh (Okafor)

MLB Hitchens/Bolton (Niemann)
LB Gay/Bolton(Niemann)

CB Ward/Baker
CB Sneed/Keyes
Nickel Hughes/Fenton
S Thornhill (Sorenson)/SorensonThornhill
S Mathieu/Key

Guys in bold are guys I expect to still, annoyingly, have a worse replacement listed. Guy in () are said replacement

I have to agree with pretty much all of this.

A few positions don’t have great depth, but that’s a pretty sexy set of starters on both sides of the ball.

The defense likely won’t be great, but they should be good. I expect the run defense to be much better this year. Pass rush should be better than last year. Secondary should be about the same, and they were really good last year.

Red Dawg 08-09-2021 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15775648)
Jones really is a full time DE now. Wow. He may not make the pro bowl now. He was the second best DT in the league and now he’s probably only the 5th or 6th best DE in the league

Bullshit. Jones is about to wreck shit and be the best DE in the league.

smithandrew051 08-09-2021 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15775716)
Bullshit. Jones is about to wreck shit and be the best DE in the league.

This. Plus who gives a shit about the Pro Bowl?

O.city 08-09-2021 07:47 AM

I'm just not counting much on Powell this year and that's ok.

oldman 08-09-2021 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775485)
If we want to extend him we should do it basically before Davante Adams, Smith-Schuster, and whomever else I am forgetting, get new deals and drive the price up any higher. It will probably take between $20 and $25M AAV with half guaranteed to keep Tyreek. He will be 28 when this contract expires in 2022.

I agree, you don't let PMII's #1/2 weapon walk at 28, especially when we don't know how much longer Kelce is good for. I'd hope another 4 years, but he'll be 32 in Oct.

Chief Roundup 08-09-2021 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15775487)
I don't think Hill will demand an outrageous contract . We have the Mahomes effect going on here. Hill is no dummy and knows he's in the right place for a HOF career.

Probably but it seemed odd that he didn't want to restructure his current deal to help the team either.

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Chief Roundup 08-09-2021 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775490)
If you are going to sign him, you have to do it early in the off season. To avoid what you said. And you need to do Brown in the off season too. The cap will go up with the new deal but we can’t pay both of them top $ and resign the honey Badger too. There is just no way you can fit all those top $ salaries under the cap.

Well since it is an extension we should not have to really pay anything extra out right now. It can be where his signing bonus is due on a certain date in the future.

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BigRedChief 08-09-2021 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775742)
Well since it is an extension we should not have to really pay anything extra out right now. It can be where his signing bonus is due on a certain date in the future.

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It's not about what he's paid next year. It's about the multiple years to come. Waiting until the contract runs out doesn't work like that with top NFL talent at their peak of their game. You don't go into the season as their last season. This isn't baseball.

Guaranteed there will be issues if Hill doesn't get an extension before the games start next year. It's his last chance to get generational changing money for his family. AND he actually deserves that money.

Dunerdr 08-09-2021 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775737)
Probably but it seemed odd that he didn't want to restructure his current deal to help the team either.

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I thought there was a break down that showed there was absolutely no benefit for hill with a restructure.

Chief Roundup 08-09-2021 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775774)
Doesn't work like that with top talent. You don't go into the season as their last season. This isn't baseball.

Guaranteed there will be issues if Hill doesn't get an extension before the games start. It's his last chance to get generational changing money for his family. AND he actually deserves that money.

Yeah I think you are missing my point. We can sign him to that extension anytime, but probably towards the end of this year. That would before his last year since he is signed through 2022 and Hill is someone that would definitely bet on himself. He just would not receive his signing bonus money until a date stipulated in the contract. Beach can word something that would be satisfactory.

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O.city 08-09-2021 08:29 AM

Ideally, you'd get Honey badger and Tyreek done this year, so you have the tag for Brown if needed.

Coogs 08-09-2021 08:31 AM

Remmers, LTD, Gay, and Williams still out today. Okafor too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t see WR Antonio Callaway (bone bruise), OL Darryl Williams (COVID list) out here today.<br><br>Willie Gay (concussion protocol), Kyle Long (knee), Laurent Duvernay-Tardif (hand), Mike Remmers (back), RB Darrel Williams (unknown), Evan Baylis (ankle), Malik Herring (knee) at rehab.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/1424736946748674048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRedChief 08-09-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15775799)
Ideally, you'd get Honey badger and Tyreek done this year, so you have the tag for Brown if needed.

Thats a one year fix. Your still paying $20 million+ for Brown and you still need Brown long term.

The Chiefs cant sign the honey badger, Brown and Hill to long term market value deals. I've seen the math done by others. The Chiefs are going to have to choose 2 of the 3.

Coogs 08-09-2021 08:36 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The OL is working on their double combo blocks and the pairing of Trey Smith and Lucas Niang is nasty. A ton of power coming from Smith. I love this guy.</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424739324692733954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 08-09-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775808)
Thats a one year fix. Your still paying $20 million+ for Brown and you still need Brown long term.

The Chiefs cant sign the honey badger, Brown and Hill to long term market value deals. I've seen the math done by others. The Chiefs are going to have to choose 2 of the 3.

Veach says, "Those guys can take the math and shove it up their asses"

kysirsoze 08-09-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775808)
Thats a one year fix. Your still paying $20 million+ for Brown and you still need Brown long term.

The Chiefs cant sign the honey badger, Brown and Hill to long term market value deals. I've seen the math done by others. The Chiefs are going to have to choose 2 of the 3.

Not saying you're wrong, but we've seen Veach pull off the seemingly impossible before.

Coogs 08-09-2021 08:40 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trey Smith and Orlando Brown are getting after it today 👀</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1424738041055301639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 08-09-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 15770217)
I've seen everything I need to see from Jones. Can we put him on ice until the season starts? It looks like the only thing capable of stopping this guy is injury.

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15775808)
Thats a one year fix. Your still paying $20 million+ for Brown and you still need Brown long term.

The Chiefs cant sign the honey badger, Brown and Hill to long term market value deals. I've seen the math done by others. The Chiefs are going to have to choose 2 of the 3.

You’re gonna have clark coming off the books. Hitchens too.

They can do it if they want

BigRedChief 08-09-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15775792)
Yeah I think you are missing my point. We can sign him to that extension anytime, but probably towards the end of this year. That would before his last year since he is signed through 2022 and Hill is someone that would definitely bet on himself. He just would not receive his signing bonus money until a date stipulated in the contract. Beach can word something that would be satisfactory.

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Of course we don't have to and I'm sure he doesn't expect to get $50 million next year. Thats not the issue.
Whatever the length, your committing/guaranteeing $100 million at least, to Hill. And he's worth it.

BigRedChief 08-09-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15775831)
You’re gonna have clark coming off the books. Hitchens too.

They can do it if they want

Come on man, thats $20 million. Hill is going to cost more than that. Now wheres your money for the Honey Badger? Brown?

Some Chief fans need a reality check here. In no scenario can we keep all of our good players in the long term.

The Chiefs need to start making choices. And maybe they already have by not signing the Honey Badger?


If a choice need to be made, I don't think anyone would disagree that Brown and Hill are more valuable to team's long term success of those 3.


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