I'm not a Jackson County resident Bub. I have a good idea though that Jackson County isn't going to vote for this without seeing a plan. That would be completely stupid. If the Chiefs cant get an idea out before the vote in November then they deserve Kansas and their uncertainty of Star Bonds. Is Clark a gambler does he roll the dice? He doesn't strike me as the type. Kansas already has one fiasco on a developer defaulting on the star bond scam.

If they were building in Clay County and they put a tax vote out with no info I'd vote hell no. This is why we are called The Show Me State. Talks cheap put out your plan.

Red Dawg would buy that oceanfront property in Arizona!

WHO CARES WUT THE LANGUAGE SEYS JUST GIVE EM YOUR MONEY

At what point did I tell others how to spend their money?

Bring them on over to Johnson county. Most of the world thinks they are already in Kansas anyways.

Expecting zero potholes on the drive to Current matches now

Someone thinks the new airport is bad doesn't travel much.

LMAO

I do find it ironic that Jackson county won't even allow people to vote on it. Isn't that them telling people how to spend their money? Meanwhile they hike property taxes a ridiculous amount and are fighting with the state over rollbacks. But they care about the people huh?

We already voted

Not for a chiefs only stadium bill.

Yeah I have to say, the line I've heard so many times was they need to pull the Royals out of this and put forward a Chiefs-only tax and it'll pass. Today some people are moving the goalposts a bit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will be playing in Kansas City, Missouri for a generation to come. <br><br>The Royals will be playing in Kansas City, Missouri for a generation to come. <br><br>Don’t get distracted by the day-to-day sausage making. Good work is getting done to ensure a positive future for all.</p>&mdash; Mayor Q (@QuintonLucasKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1828184937951891818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You lost go move to Kansas if you want to subsidize billionaire sports owners

The people didn't get to vote.

.... and now that the rollbacks are being ****ed with, the goal posts have definitely been moved. And for good reason.

He's one of the last person I'd trust here.

The bottom line is Clark is looking for the most return from KC, and right now what the entire state of Kansas is offering him is much better than what one county in Missouri can muster. I'm sure Clark would be fine with the Royals moving to the park by Union station that's being talked about (and that's a GREAT idea and location) and leave the entire TSC for the Chiefs to be the only team in/on with a new domed stadium to rival what's gone in in L.A., L.V. and the likes. If Missouri wasn't silly they'd get it done, and make the facility that's built at the TSC SOOOOOO much more than a football venue, make it a multi-use facility.

And Missouri needs to know just how much the gambling thing is hurting their ability to compete. Say what you want but if Clark can skim some cash off of each bet placed, he'll be a happy man. Kansas has stepped up, Missouri needs to wake up.

I was wondering if sports gambling passing in November would help open up new money for the stadiums.

Didn't really know where to throw this. Doesn't REALLY apply here, but maybe kind of?



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buc-ee&#39;s submits details for Kansas City, Kansas, location, including 120 gas pumps, 560 parking spots:<a href="https://t.co/zr5jFbqFOL">https://t.co/zr5jFbqFOL</a></p>&mdash; KSHB 41 News (@KSHB41) <a href="https://twitter.com/KSHB41/status/1846264815800537141?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We will have updated stadium news for you tomorrow morning. Sounds like we could be hearing soon where the Royals and Chiefs will be playing! Tune in tomorrow <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a></p>&mdash; Bob Fescoe (@bobfescoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/bobfescoe/status/1856149753790116267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It sounded like the election results were important for this deal.

Which result and in what way?

Clark Hunt made reference to it a couple of weeks ago. There was indication that things we being discussed on the Missouri side. He made some reference to not being able to say much at the time because of the upcoming election.

Somebody in this thread called out that Mike Kehoe said something about being interested in the state helping.

Fescoe reporting Royals looking to Johnson County and the old Sprint campus is the leading site.

Sounds like a negotiation ploy by the Royals to get the MO side to give them more.

I guess the JACO population is about to find out if Kehoe was worth his vote...

Kehoe is a STL guy and I heard the Cardinals are asking for money for stadium upgrades as well. It will be interesting to see what happens- STL politics generally rule in Jeff City.

1) **** St. Louis...

2) You are correct, but I also recall Kehoe being the only candidate willing to talk about how he wanted to keep the teams in MO. I don't think he can wave a wand and make it happen, but I do hope that if KS lures either team away that in all other respects Kehoe unilaterally withdraw from any "agreements" that the two states once had and say it's open season on KS. Put Topeka on notice that with our ridiculously deeper pockets that we will, as a state, make sure any business that stays in KS has to be doing it for political reasons because MO is going to make it financially better to move (or start up) to/in MO.

Fans would lose nothing IMO, I sure don't mind driving over there occasionally for a game, but I'm sure ready for MO to quit being nice and being the only one to respect the bullshit accord the two states have.

And if we lose the team/teams and he doesn't go to war economically with KS, he's a useless piece of shit.

Finally DOWNTOWN BASEBALL.

Makes sense to me

KCMO for WNBA and women's soccer

KS for professional men's sports

Mayor Q was gonna save the situation though

What happened?

So...was there actually any news?

Royals are looking into Johnson County and Kansas with the Sprint campus the leading site.

Bob Fescoe is supposedly an insider with Royals folks so he dropped that “news” on his morning radio show.

I’d put him just a touch above Clay or Soggy Shane when it comes to information.

Pretty good summary in this article.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals could be looking at ballpark sites in Johnson County <a href="https://t.co/1CmM9gFOfe">https://t.co/1CmM9gFOfe</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1856411575013286292?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's a great question...

Mayor Q

More opportunity to spur economic development at the Legends. The development is already in place where the old Sprint Campus is.

I wanted to go pose a question to him on twitter but he's blocked me already.

Unfortunate

Crossroads marked safe from an MLB playoff team

The legends is already at capacity ROFL

nobody wants to actually go there

I do

Maybe you aren't familiar with all of the development going in there the next few years, but I can assure it's far from capacity.

damn I used to live in that apartment complex on metcalf that was walking distance to the sprint campus. there's a universe where I could walk to Royals games.

they'll need to fix metcalf to make this work though, that street is enough of a shit show during rush hour.

Intresting that some spots are always recycled for sports facilities. The Sprint campus spot, Overland Park tried to build a smaller arena there in the early 00s. Brookridge is close to where in the early 70s they wanted to build an arena for the Kansas City Scouts. That would have been in Corporate Woods area.

Royals are such assholes. We want a downtown stadium. Ohh look a suburban stadium. Let joco or the dotted have them.

Counties should be part owners with the billions they spend.

Build a new stadium and entertainment district at Truman. New arrowhead with same type of dimensions. Maybe 85 to 90k.
Entertainment district. Couple bars, rally house, couple restaurants. Top golf mini golf, mini casino, vr rooms, hotel. Small amphitheater. All the other stuff can run year round.

No one has ever thought of this before this post

That's a total of 3 home games in the last 9 years.

The OP Royals? That is so weird. I mean I understand the owners wanting their vanity project just down the street from their mansion but it's so unusual not to have it at least near downtown. Makes me wonder how sincere the interest really is. Google is telling me 17 miles from downtown.

Ok... Well. How about turning the taco bell into a kentacohut?

I'm going to go off the rails here so try and indulge me for a moment, if you would.

Who we're leaving out of this conversation is just as important as Mayor Q and the Royals. Frank Friggin' White.

He still has in roads with the organization, albeit not as many as he used to. You know, Frank Friggin' White, the county executive for Jackson County? The county executive who vetoed an ordinance that would have created a ballot measure on renewing a 3/8th-cent sales tax to subsidize sports stadiums for the Kansas City Chiefs and the Kansas City Royals? THAT Frank Friggin' White. So where is Frank Friggin' White in all of this?

I'll tell you where he is. He's trying to screw the cities in Jackson County out of nearly $58,000,000 in ARPA funds. Money he's been sitting on for years instead of getting it out to the towns and cities, as it was intended to be used.

For those of you unfamiliar, ARPA (American Rescue Plan Act) funds were specifically earmarked for the following things.

Responding to the pandemic: Supporting the health of communities and helping households, businesses, and industries recover from the pandemic's economic impacts. This is clearly not needed now.

Covering payroll and benefits: Covering the full payroll and covered benefits costs for employees or operating units primarily dedicated to the COVID-19 response. Also no longer needed.

Maintaining public services: Providing government services to the extent of revenue lost due to the pandemic. Again, no longer needed.

Providing premium pay: Offering additional support to essential workers. COVID related and no longer needed.

Providing emergency relief: Providing emergency relief from natural disasters or their negative economic impacts. Not a whole lot of those happening in Jackson County.

Supporting surface transportation projects: This program supports projects that improve surface transportation infrastructure in rural areas. Eligible applicants include states, regional transportation planning organizations, local governments, tribal governments, and multijurisdictional groups of entities. A noble cause which I gladly support, but the last one is what would really help the communities in Jackson County.

Investing in infrastructure: This is what the vast majority of cities want to use the money for. Things like: Improving access to clean drinking water, wastewater and storm water infrastructure, expanding broadband internet, roads and bridges, electric grid upgrades, public transportation, freight rail and passenger rail, climate change protection, airports, public transport, environmental cleanup, electric vehicles, transportation safety, and reconnecting communities.

There are a ton of cities and towns that could use a slice of that 58 million dollar pie to better their communities. This ARPA money has to be earmarked for projects by Dec. 31st, 2024. If not, it has to be returned, unused, to the Federal Government.

Frank Friggin' White is fighting tooth and nail to hang on to that money and not disperse it among the cities as it was intended. Do you know what Frank Friggin' White wants to do with that money?

He wants to use it to pretty up the Jackson County Courthouse!

You wont find "redecorating a courthouse" as a legal use for those funds, anywhere.

What's worse, he has the "If I can't have it, nobody is getting it!" mentality and he probably has the votes to get away with it. He'll stonewall this until Jan.1, then return the funds to the Federal Government and give every city in Jackson County the middle finger, just to spite everyone.

Frank Friggin' White lives to give Jackson County and the sports community the middle finger.

TY

Wtf are you even talking about? Some peoples' hatred is larger than simply politics.

https://www.kctv5.com/2024/10/21/jac...scue-plan-act/

1. This isn't about hatred. This is about White withholding funds for years that were earmarked for infrastructure, etc.

2. I'm a legislator somewhere in Jackson County. I have a bit more of an inside track than you do by citing an outdated article from KCTV5.

3. Look at the date on that article. Oct. 21st. Things have changed since then.

4. I'm going to the Dec. 2nd meeting, along with my fellow legislators and some constituents to discuss this very thing.

5. Also note this:
This means White can play hardball and let the deadline pass without action and the funds go back to the Federal Government.

6.Here's a snippet from a more recent article where First District Jackson County Legislator Manny Abarca was talking about those funds.
White can screw every city in Jackson County by doing nothing more than tabling the discussion.

So there are multiple legislators and not just frank? And it's not remodeling the court house it's actually to fix deferred maintenance? Don't they close that place all the time because of flooding?

Are you exaggerating to try to make a point?

Zero exaggeration, sir. White is the county executive for Jackson County. The boss. Again, the money is for infrastructure projects, all of which I listed. Fixing pipes in the courthouse might fall into that category. That certainly doesn't cost 58 million dollars. He's been sitting on that money for YEARS. There's zero excuse for that. The deadline to get that money out to the cities is a month and a half away and here we are.

It looks like there are a lot of cities without full obligation yet.

Are you Shaun Smith?!

https://x.com/farzin21/status/189261...hF5F7ITREaXXuA

Kevin Kietzman is back with all the inside scoops! On mobile so somebody can embed if they want

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Chiefs president Mark Donovan is reportedly “100% all in” on the Chiefs moving to The Legends in KCK because “it’s a better business deal, per <a href="https://twitter.com/kkhasissues?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kkhasissues</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/kcmotalkradio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kcmotalkradio</a>. <a href="https://t.co/dyeJXpUzq3">pic.twitter.com/dyeJXpUzq3</a></p>&mdash; Farzin Vousoughian (@Farzin21) <a href="https://twitter.com/Farzin21/status/1892618111506895053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm more surprised Kevin Keitzman is still alive.

This will be perfect.

I don't believe a damn thing Kietzman says. Still waiting for that drug ring to be exposed that will "shake the foundation of the NFL".

It could very well be what happens but yea I won't hang my hat on info from that dude and then all the echo chamber "media" people in the area just trying to be a part of something like Farzin

Just think people will finally be right when they say their from Kansas now. :thumb:

That’s a fun fact

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 BREAKING 🚨<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are leaning towards a move to Kansas and it is gaining momentum.<br><br>By the time November rolls around, ground will most likely have been broken in the state of Kansas if that is the direction they decide to move in.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/bobfescoe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BobFescoe</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFan965?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFan965</a>. <a href="https://t.co/VKiBceclaw">pic.twitter.com/VKiBceclaw</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1894045458390986899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

oh neat, this again

Texans stadium is 22 years old and plans for it's replacement is starting. Do domes have a shorter lifespan

I want a dome like the vikings

Hard to avoid politics on this one. Is it safe to say that the local MO politicians fumbled this one …w/o mentioning names? I’m not seeing a level of urgency that you might expect from them. We’re lucky we have ownership that isn’t pulling an Art Modell. Knock on wood, the team will stay local even with a new location.

No dome, part of HFA is playing in the elements

So much this.

No it's not.

The Dolphins game would suggest otherwise.

Even the Bills are keeping it ‘open air’

I wouldn't model ourselves after the Bills. Unless we want to postpone games, or move them altogether, that is.

It's going to be a dome because Clark Hunt is hell bent on bringing a Super Bowl to KC. May have a retractable roof though.

Domes have nothing to do with postponing/moving games... even Buffalo with their complete shit winters have dug out seats from feet of snow.

And KC rarely has storms that just make it impossible for players and fans to get to the game safely, even though the storm the first week of January does come to mind.

Bob Fescoe lol noted Kansas homer with no connections to anything.