If he's healthy, he goes. Upgrades two positions. This isn't really a tough decision.

No it doesn't. He's played one decent half of football.

Play Humphries until he gases out and sub Morris in? Maybe swap turns in the big game so Humphries plays in the second half? lol we can play LT by committee with hockey substitutions so we’re always fresh. I’ve always wondered why OL doesn’t do this bc DL swaps guys fairly frequently.

Start him and at halftime switch to Thuney at LT.

He's played like 8 years of decent football.

NOT RIGHT NOW! Holy crap dude. He literally got worked the whole second half.

The playoffs aren't for getting into game shape. Some of you are f'n delusional.

Yeah, some of you are.

Haven’t caught up on the last few pages but…. DJ had some excellent reps in the first half. He likely hasn’t been conditioning the last few weeks. Hes now got 2 weeks to work on that. You give him the help we’ve given Thuney and keep the quick game for the most part and I feel good about it.

You are missing one minor thing.

LG doesn't really matter if you have shitty tackles.

And if Mahomes trusts Thuney and it makes him confident. Who am I to say otherwise

Then I'll guess we will find out who that is in two weeks

The narrative that Thuney was getting a bunch of help has been debunked a ton of times. We didn't.

They just do walk throughs and extremely light practices in the postseason. Hard to build football conditioning doing that.

Got some more fake stats to back that up?

Mahomes has looked the most comfy with Thuney on the edge.

Trust in Thuney folks

I keep hearing this and some bullshit about 16 snaps on Netflix or something. Seth keysor said on their last pod that thuneys getting more help than any tackle in Reid’s run here. Do I believe you or Seth and my eyes?

So do people think Thuney is Trent Williams or something? DJ had one week of full practice and then faced the top sack team In the league after being out for weeks. And to make matters worse he had to play alongside backups. He had ups and downs today. That's to be expected. Now he has two weeks to get ready. I still believe DJ and Joe on the left side is what's best for this team.

Every time someone says this, I'm going to remind you that what you're actually saying is, "Trust in Mike Caliendo".

And also, Mahomes looked most comfortable when he had a legit man breaker WR to throw to in Hollywood Brown.

Liar.

Someone give me their nfl+ log in and I’ll chart them. I’m betting thuneys getting help on 30% or better of pass attempts.

Oh ok so some dude watching the game like the rest of us. Got it.

The funniest shit is you clowns in here saying the move is to put a guy in for the playoffs that pulled his hamstring in his first game back in a year after an ACL tear....and then got his shit pushed in for a whole second half today.

It's room temperature IQ shit, boy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some in-game pass block grading and numbers from PFF. They have Humphries with 5 pressures allowed, Hanson with 4, and Morris with 2. <a href="https://t.co/dEpgphSnCJ">pic.twitter.com/dEpgphSnCJ</a></p>&mdash; Shaun Newkirk (@Shauncore) <a href="https://twitter.com/Shauncore/status/1876056991908651313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


If that's what you're getting from DJ, then yeah you have to go with Thuney. And yes if that means going with Caliendo then that's fine seeing as Mahomes is wayyyyy less affected by bad guard play as he is with bad tackle play.

LOL no those "stats aren't real".

****ing morons.

Hollywood played like 50 snaps across the two weeks he played. Mahomes just looked comfortable period. With or without Hollywood in the game.

Thuney or bust fellers. Lets get that guy in the Hall by winning another Bowl.

I have a feeling we have been hiding our playoff offense.

I expect us to RPO the shit out of Baltimore or Buffalo in the AFC Championship game.

These takes are wild. Brown wasn't playing the bulk of snaps.

F'n clowns on this board.

You gonna threaten me old man lmao. Anyone with eyes can see the chips, TE and jets to that side. I’m fine either way but let’s not act like thuneys been a savior. He’s average. I’m optimistic for an upgrade. You’re the one having a low T melt down in here.

I’ll take solid LT with an average guard over a shitty LT and a good guard any day all day

Caliendo or bust

And you're going to play the "I watched the game" card?

**** yes he did. And honestly, Humphries got some help today. More than we had been given the LT.

I'm really not sure how one can even attempt to argue otherwise. I presume some other dipshit on Twitter told you that?

Moving Thuney out solidified the line. Yes.

Humphrie is not an upgrade now sit tf down and stfu

It's wild that you can say this. It diminishes everything Thuney has brought to our OL these past years.

Apparently we should have cut Thuney and kept OBJ.

And got wrecked. Got wrecked. We're not going with Humphrie. Why you morons keep banging this drum I have no idea. It doesn't upgrade the line.

My God you're overreacting to posts right now. We saw what below average LT play next to Thuney at guard looked like. It was game wrecking. We've also seen what below average guard play next to Thuney at LT looked like, we were fine on offense.

You can't ignore positional value.

This is why I laugh when these dudes claim to have even watched the game. The rest of the whole league saw the line get upgraded when Joe moved out to tackle. Up to that point Pat was getting sacked at the highest rate of his career. After Joe moved out, it stopped.

They didn't even see that DJ got absolutely wrecked in the whole second half today and clearly isn't in game shape. This AFTER he pulled his hamstring in his first go.

F'n MORONS.

I've already said I'm fine deferring to whatever the staff thinks. I don't really feel terribly strongly either way.

I just think it's funny that you keep making declaratory statements that are just ****ing wrong and then bopping onto the next one before getting all bitchy when people point it out.

You in the middle of a cycle, big-timer? Got some roid-rage you need to go pump out?

You'd been fairly sane since your return until whatever this lunatic shit-fit is.

Now I hope Andy goes with Humphries just so you can eat shit.

So we're going to stan for a dude who's barely played in the past year and has looked bad/out of shape vs a guy who when he was at LT the offense was humming. Yeah this is an easy one folks

LMAO I'm literally just responding to some of the dumbest takes on here when we all just watched Humphrie get destroyed for a whole half of football.

My statements haven't been wrong. There's the stats. He got wrecked. The offense immediarely improved when Joe slid out to tackle.

So yes, it's a dumb take to keep saying that DJ upgrades the line when the dude has played 1 decent half of footbal in two games and in one of those games got injured.

Yes. All of that, is galactically stupid. You don't need to be on a cycle in order to throw some inflammatory language at takes that brain rot stupid.

I just want our all pro guard to be an all pro player rather than a mediocre player. It's weird to me that people find that to be a controversial take.

I'm not saying that it's Humphries or bust. All I'm saying is that the best version of our OL for a Super Bowl run has Thuney where he's supposed to be and Caliendo on the bench. If Humphries can't handle it, it is what it is, but I'm hesitant to bail on that possibility when he mainly just looked like he needs to get back into playing shape.

If it was early in the season I'd agree. But the playoffs are literally one and done. This isn't the time when you gamble on a guy getting back into playing shape.

I’ll trust whatever choice they make, but for me personally it would be hard not to roll with Thuney.

There’s proof of concept. We don’t have that yet with Hump.

I'm okay with whatever the staff thinks as well.

If they want Humphries, that's fine. But if we lose and it was because Humphries was out there stinking it up, I will absolutely be sick to my stomach. Starting Humphries with the intention of pulling him in a playoff game feels like we're still ****ing around, and this isn't the time to do that.

As I understood it if Humphries was solid and could get in game shape in time there were rolling with him.

Looks like that might not be the case. Worst case the guy is depth if someone gets hurt and he has to go in. Seems like he's good for about 1/2 anyway.

My guess is that DJ is just depth for the playoffs.

I would like him to come back next year though and give the guy a full offseason/camp/preseason. If only to hold it down until Kingsly is ready. He's got probowl upside so...

Best version of our offense this season has been with Thuney at LT. You can't ignore how the offense has looked with him at guard and a turnstile at LT.

Tbh, I'd rather we play Morris at LT than Humphries right now if we're putting Thuney back at LG. Morris has never looked this bad or been rated as low as Humphries was today. And overall PFF has given him a 58 grade on the season. Humphries has a 35 grade.

Even if you want to use the argument that Humphries was affected by bad guard play today, and he'll be better, Wanya had an even worse guard next to him and played well at RT. So I don't buy that argument.

Let Pat make the decision. That’s what I would do if I was the coach. He is ultimately the one who needs to be most comfortable with it.

I thought the same.

I'd rather have Morris out there healthy than DJ after today. Dude got WRECKED.

Wayne would at least have games here and there that were average.

So if it were about sliding a tackle out there IMO it's Morris. NOt Humphries.

Nate Taylor was saying that it's most likely going to be Thuney because Pat trusts him to do whatever it takes to give him time and while he might get pushed back, he won't allow the free runners that Pat hates to get to him. He'll put his body on the line to protect Pat.

He gave it a 60% odds Thuney starts at LT unless DJ Humphries absolutely dominated today.

I'm not a fan of that at all. Now, you want to keep Wanya at RT instead of the penalty factory (or perhaps motivation) I could see trying that. He's looked much better at RT.

I don't ever want to see him back at LT. Period. RG or RT...

Can you walk me through your assessment of Thuney’s performance at LT in light of the fact that the game against Pittsburgh was Mahomes’ fastest time to throw in his entire career and the game against Houston was his fastest since early in the 2021 season? Please walk me through how that’s a testament to the success of the line - and LT in particular - rather than overtly trying to mask its deficiencies.

Thanks in advance.

And that’s everything right there. I saw Hump throw a couple more no-hitters out there today. Those get your QB killed and lead to fumbles, at best.

Thuney always makes it a battle. I don’t think there’s much choice here but again, I’ll defer to Andy and Pat to know best.

I expect its Thuney.

You're right, the line probably is weaker going with Thuney than if Humphries could give us passable LT play.

But it's just too god damn late. Putting Humphries out there is banking on hopes and prayers that his conditioning improves and that he can put up serviceable LT play, which he has yet to prove. It's all hopes and dreams. I don't want to bank our season on that.

This shouldn't be about the ceiling of our OL play, it's about going with what works and winning 3 games.

I think Today sealed that.

Still glad we have Humphries.


He's a far better option than Wanya.

He will be much better with a proper TC and preseason. It doesn't appear that his injury impacted him. He's just not in shape. He's not ready to compete against the league's best right now.

But if he can solve that LT problem for us next year and buy us time to develop someone behind him...

Wasn't Patrick coming off an ankle injury 5 days prior?

Don’t get me wrong: I think Thuney will be the starter at LT in the playoffs and I’m fine with that. But TheGuardian’s complete minimization of basic facts matters here. Moving Thuney there with Caliendo at LG and sacrificing our running game while changing our offense to a quick-release version of Mahomes could win us a SB. Or it could end up limiting Reid’s creativity and find that it’s something other DCs are able to adjust to in the playoffs.

We shouldn’t overstate how good Thuney has been there.

Sure.

In the 3 games that Joe started at LT Pat was sacked 1 time.

In the previous 6 games he was sacked a total of 23 times.

You have to go back to 3rd game of the season to find a game where he wasn't sacked at all, all year...until Thuney slid over to tackle.

That's the only thing I need to know, dipshit.

If they changed the offense to help the protection out as well, GREAT! The fact is, things got better and everyone knows it.

You're welcome in advance.

So how did the offense look all season with Thuney at LG? And horrible tackle play....

No, we don't have a serviceable tackle right now out side of Thuney and DJ AINT IT. that's the point.

Yeah I don't love agreeing with Guardian lol.

Brady beat us on way to a SB with a basic quick release offense and solid defense. It can be done. It's only 3 games.

The good news is Andy and Mahomes will be very smart about this and do what's best for the offense. It would be fun to have a binary poll and see how well this board can predict that decision based only on where things stand now.

Yea, only three games and I doubt we face any body too tough.

Well one game won't be. It'll be some team we already beat most likely.

And then we get 1 hard game and none of these NFC teams look like anything than a bunch of break dancers.

Eh, everyone has a weakness around this time. Thankfully Andy and Patrick can do a lot to mask our particular weakness.

Threepeat likely comes down to a handful of plays in the AFC Championship game.

This will be like the early 90s when the NFC Championship between Dallas and SF was the real Super Bowl.

Lol this guy really seems to think that Thuney cannot get beaten :LOL:

A quickpass offense was the adjustment the offense needed after we lost Fisher in the AFC championship game in the Superbowl against the Tampa. The fact that Reid never made the adjustment pissed me the eff off.

With that being said, Hollywood, DHOP and Worthy along with Kelce we should be able to make this work.

Doesn't he have 24 days to get into shape?

This is total hyperbolic nonsense. It's ****ing nonsense.

You're really going to compare the Wince offense today to the last few weeks of Mahomes with a full complement of weapons and come to the conclusion that DJ was the problem? Ok.

Andy's going to do what is best for the team, and I trust him to make the best decision, but some of you guys are off your rockers.

This is what I guess will actually happen


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His conditioning ain't there as of right now.

There is zero chance in living hell Andy is trotting this dude out at left tackle for the playoffs after what we just saw. He needs his head examined if he does.

I wanted this dude to work out more than anyone, but it just didn’t happen. The guy isn’t starting another game for this team.

No matter the gameplan if you can't handle the man in front of you....you shouldn't be starting.

Chargers in the first round is not a great matchup for our offense.

I thought Thuney was an upgrade at LT as well but our run game sucked. I'm not sure how much was him being out of position and Calliendo being a JAG or scheme/defenses etc.

Also, the Chiefs altered their offense and got the ball out very quickly compared to the rest of the season and they provided some help (finally) to the LT, which has something to do with it.