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O.city 03-24-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601165)
The kneecap wasn't due to offensive line play. Neither was the head.

The toe was.

So let's not pretend the only reason Mahomes is getting hurt is because he's getting pounded because of a lack of protection. That's not the case.

Whether you think it was or not, they're actions seem to say they feel it was/is.

He also got mangled in the Superdome this year and against the Bucs in the SB.

When they've played good defenses, they've kicked the OL's ass. Hence the offseason changes.

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 15601200)
The head wasn't directly caused, but...

The crappier the line, the more Mahomes uses his feet to make plays and exposes his head and body...

That play was a designed option run. There was no failure in protection, he would have been exposed no matter who was blocking.

O.city 03-24-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601192)
Then I guess we might as well prepare for them to not get one because they really don't have the assets to go get one.

Next years first and a third will get it done.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601192)
Then I guess we might as well prepare for them to not get one because they really don't have the assets to go get one.

LMAO You did the same shit before they blew the OL to smithereens. "Guys, prepare to have Wylie be a starter next season. Veach won't use assets on the IOL. It's not going to happen."

Brett Veach:
https://j.gifs.com/vnzebz.gif

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601201)
Whether you think it was or not, they're actions seem to say they feel it was/is.

He also got mangled in the Superdome this year and against the Bucs in the SB.

When they've played good defenses, they've kicked the OL's ass. Hence the offseason changes.

You're conflating two different things.

Patrick needs better protection to make the offense more efficient. Yes.

Patrick injury issues have very little to do with the offensive line play, however.

He's getting injured primarily due to play calling and terrible luck. He lost 5 weeks with an injury that I've never seen happen before in 30+ years of watching football - on a QB sneak.

O.city 03-24-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601191)
There's no reason to be pigeon holed into anything. The Chiefs can take any number of players at 31 and be just fine. There's no reason for "fear" at all.

Trading major assets is the definition of "pigeon hole", not only this year but next year as well.

I'm not sure why people don't get that. Trading assets gives you LESS options, not more.

It also allows you to get a prospect you think can fill a spot for the foreseeable future.

A spot thats just under QB in terms of importance for this offense to operate.

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601204)
Next years first and a third will get it done.

You want to trade this year's 1st, next year's first, and next year's 3rd for a CHANCE at a starting LT?

I'm so glad you're not a GM.

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601207)
It also allows you to get a prospect you think can fill a spot for the foreseeable future.

A spot thats just under QB in terms of importance for this offense to operate.

And if that prospect fails or gets injured, you have no means to replace him.

Sounds like a solid plan.

Why pivot when you can just veer off into the ditch...

O.city 03-24-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601206)
You're conflating two different things.

Patrick needs better protection to make the offense more efficient. Yes.

Patrick injury issues have very little to do with the offensive line play, however.

He's getting injured primarily due to play calling and terrible luck. He lost 5 weeks with an injury that I've never seen happen before in 30+ years of watching football - on a QB sneak.

You don't think them calling sprint out options on 3rd and short have anything to do with the OL?

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601205)
LMAO You did the same shit before they blew the OL to smithereens. "Guys, prepare to have Wylie be a starter next season. Veach won't use assets on the IOL. It's not going to happen."

Brett Veach:
https://j.gifs.com/vnzebz.gif

In case you haven't noticed, this team still doesn't have a left tackle and people are ****ing SCARED because of it.

This board is laughably emotional. It's like Twitter for old men.

staylor26 03-24-2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15601183)
So in other words, you want Chiefsplanet to be an echo chamber where everything is completely in agreement with how you think. If not those who dare disagree with your fragile ego are ****ing idiots.

You've got problems dude.

Literally nobody is saying that. This is 100% a strawman.

If you say something stupid, and I call you out on it, then defend your argument. I didn’t just call you stupid. I pointed out things like the Rams and Veach’s drafts, and you didn’t do a very good job of defending either. You actually ignored the part about the Rams, probably because it’s true and you don’t want to defend it.

And yes, saying you’re prepared for the Chiefs to take a step back in March when they aren’t even remotely done is ****ing stupid and defeatist attitude.

That doesn’t mean I want this place to be an echo chamber. I want you to be able to say your stupid shit. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be allowed to. If I cared that much, I’d put you on ignore.

htismaqe 03-24-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601212)
You don't think them calling sprint out options on 3rd and short have anything to do with the OL?

Do you think them calling QB sneaks does?

O.city 03-24-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601208)
You want to trade this year's 1st, next year's first, and next year's 3rd for a CHANCE at a starting LT?

I'm so glad you're not a GM.

Yeah. I'd imagine our GM would as well.

Stop overvaluing the end of the first round picks.

O.city 03-24-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601211)
And if that prospect fails or gets injured, you have no means to replace him.

Sounds like a solid plan.

Why pivot when you can just veer off into the ditch...

You sound like the old "don't trade up for a QB, it's too risky" guys here man.

If they evaluate and think the LT is worth it, go for it. The value of having that spot locked down is worth more than those picks.

Bearcat 03-24-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601213)

This board is laughably emotional. It's like Twitter for old men.

Two decades and running strong of "what just happened will now happen forever if we don't do something about it!"


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