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chiefzilla1501 05-12-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 14265220)
I thought that too. I was hoping that. That, at least would have been just. I remember she said to Jon, when he wouldn't kiss her back, that she'd very well would choose fear then. Or she said, then fear it is! That indicated to me she was feeling very insecure. Hence the destruction she waged instead. The Starks will have to kill her then. Perhaps the queen Arya ends up killing will be Dany.

The story arc was there. It was definitely rushed. The question is if people would have tolerated another full season it deserved to get there. That goes for a good chunk of rushed story arcs people have complained about. It would take many many more seasons to close this thing cleanly. And I suspect a reason GRRM struggles to close this thing out. I suspect a lot of people bitching about the rush job on this would be bitching 5 seasons from now that the series seems to be way too slow to get to the ending.

kcpasco 05-12-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14265265)
Also, what's the ****ing point of Bran's character now. WHAT POINT DOES HIS CHARACTER HAVE? WHY WAS HE EVER AROUND.

Bran's whole "point" to being now is that he's reduced to a goddamn fishing lure.

It’s pacing and wanting to rush to the end.

Chiefspants 05-12-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 14265268)
The writing simply makes no sense and characters act like complete idiots to serve the story.

Why did the northmen not retreat when Jon told them to if they held him in such high regard? Because the story needs that to happen I guess?

On that last point, I’ll say this played out pretty faithfully to what can happen in War when a city falls. Nothing matters anymore. Everything goes to hell

mlyonsd 05-12-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14265265)
Also, what's the ****ing point of Bran's character now. WHAT POINT DOES HIS CHARACTER HAVE? WHY WAS HE EVER AROUND.

Bran's whole "point" to being now is that he's reduced to a goddamn fishing lure.

ROFL

BucEyedPea 05-12-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14265252)
The sad thing is all the feminazis are going to be pissed off about this, and now I have to agree with them.

ROFL

FAX 05-12-2019 09:51 PM

I'm disappointed ...

That this season didn't have another shot of Cersei standing on a balcony ...

FAX

kcpasco 05-12-2019 09:51 PM

Dany’s descent into madness makes sense. It’s the rushing that sucks. GRRM is gonna be called a misogynist for this ending.

Hammock Parties 05-12-2019 09:51 PM

At least we got memes LMAO

https://i.imgur.com/x1WCsTA.jpg

mlyonsd 05-12-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14265277)
I'm disappointed ...

That this season didn't have another shot of Cersei standing on a balcony ...

FAX

I thought for sure when Dany looked at the Keep she was going to scorch her off of it. Instead let's kill kids!

GloucesterChief 05-12-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14265273)
On that last point, I’ll say this played out pretty faithfully to what can happen in War when a city falls. Nothing matters anymore. Everything goes to hell

No, that did not happen and any competent commander would not want it to happen. Sack? Sure even then it would be based on how long a city held out. Long enough to satisfy honor? Not much if at all would happen.

See when you destroy a city that surrendered you make sure that no other city will ever surrender to you because it will not save their lives. They will fight to the death because you have proven they have no other option?

chiefzilla1501 05-12-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 14265278)
Dany’s dissent into madness makes sense. It’s the rushing that sucks. GRRM is gonna be called a mysoginist for this ending.

Agreed. She didn't go from 0 to 100. She was at about 60 when the episode started. It was super rushed but not illogical.

BucEyedPea 05-12-2019 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14265270)
The story arc was there. It was definitely rushed. The question is if people would have tolerated another full season it deserved to get there. That goes for a good chunk of rushed story arcs people have complained about. It would take many many more seasons to close this thing cleanly. And I suspect a reason GRRM struggles to close this thing out. I suspect a lot of people bitching about the rush job on this would be bitching 5 seasons from now that the series seems to be way too slow to get to the ending.

Well, I have felt this season was rushed. I agree with that criticism. I think it could have been done in two seasons not five though. I think 10 episodes for this season would help—especially after waiting two years and since it has been a slow moving show. I don't see why a two year wait was ever needed either.

Pogue 05-12-2019 09:54 PM

I knew Kings Landing was going to be torched once Messendrei said Dacary! before her head getting lopped off and Cersei sealed her fate then. Cersei being reduced to tears in the red keep wanting to keep her baby alive and was the proper way to send her out. Terrific acting too.

This episode was much better than the previous one.

mlyonsd 05-12-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 14265268)
The writing simply makes no sense and characters act like complete idiots to serve the story.

Why did the northmen not retreat when Jon told them to if they held him in such high regard? Because the story needs that to happen I guess?

Why did Jon have to kill a northman when he was about to rape a girl? Crazy had won the moment for some non-apparent reason.

BucEyedPea 05-12-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 14265281)
I thought for sure when Dany looked at the Keep she was going to scorch her off of it. Instead let's kill kids!

Now, it provides a motive for the Starks going after her and taking her out—just like Ned and Robert did years ago to her father. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go full circle ending up where it started but without corrupt Lannisters.


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