Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601270)

Trading up for a QB that you think is a franchise player is always worth it. Mahomes cannot be compared to a left tackle.

Frank Clark was an established as well as young player. If we were trading firsts for Orlando Brown, for example, that would be similarly palatable.

You're talking about trading a future first for an unknown that isn't a QB. That's an extremely risky proposition. It doesn't often work out for a myriad of reasons and it almost never works out when your doing it for need instead of trying to grab a game changing player.

And by the way, I find it ironic that you're saying we can just sign blue chippers next FA period. We have money RIGHT NOW and haven't hit on anybody but Joe Thuney, with you being one of the most vocal critics. So for some reason, this offseason is stacking up to be a failure but next offseason is going to be a magical buffet of blue chip free agents? Come on man, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15601295)

What’s the worst that happens? A LT fails and we’re...where we are now? I think it’s actually more risk to count on a 2nd rd LT prospect.

And no I think this FA period is an outlier. It’s clear that the cap is going to explode but not until next year. This year players seem hesitant to leave unless they have to bc they’re scared of missing out on their paydays next year.

Players like Juju understand the scheme and are being risk averse to put themselves in a position to succeed in an environment they are very familiar with.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601298)

We're not where we are now if we don't have a 1st round pick next year. That's the whole entire point.

And I never suggested a 2nd round LT prospect. I have no qualms with drafting one at 31 or even trading up into the early 20's.

My appetite stops when next year's 1st rounder is involved.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601292)

when your doing it for need instead of trying to grab a game changing player.

Uh? Wut? The idea of trading up for one of the elite LT prospects is having a much better chance at a game changing player.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601306)

You're trading away what could be two elite prospects for the CHANCE at one.

The draft is already enough like the lottery and you want to make it moreso.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601305)

Ahh so I knock down OKchiefs strawman and force him to defend his stupid ****ing takes and he stops replying.

Go figure!

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601270)

Trading up for a QB that you think is a franchise player is always worth it. Mahomes cannot be compared to a left tackle.

Frank Clark was an established as well as young player. If we were trading firsts for Orlando Brown, for example, that would be similarly palatable.

You're talking about trading a future first for an unknown that isn't a QB. That's an extremely risky proposition. It doesn't often work out for a myriad of reasons and it almost never works out when your doing it for need instead of trying to grab a game changing player.

And by the way, I find it ironic that you're saying we can just sign blue chippers next FA period. We have money RIGHT NOW and haven't hit on anybody but Joe Thuney, with you being one of the most vocal critics. So for some reason, this offseason is stacking up to be a failure but next offseason is going to be a magical buffet of blue chip free agents? Come on man, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601303)

And likely at the end of the first out of reach of LT prospects.

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 15601312)

It all depends on who is available. But if two low firsts and a low third gets you someone who projects to be your starting left tackle they will do that deal in a heart beat. Problem is that compensation is not enough to get either of the projected top two tackles in the draft. Might not get the projected number 3 tackle... So yeah probably not going to work.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601306)

You're trading away what could be two elite prospects for the CHANCE at one.

The draft is already enough like the lottery and you want to make it moreso.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601223)

You sound like the old "don't trade up for a QB, it's too risky" guys here man.

If they evaluate and think the LT is worth it, go for it. The value of having that spot locked down is worth more than those picks.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601298)

We're not where we are now if we don't have a 1st round pick next year. That's the whole entire point.

And I never suggested a 2nd round LT prospect. I have no qualms with drafting one at 31 or even trading up into the early 20's.

My appetite stops when next year's 1st rounder is involved.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15601316)

Let's just say we could spend this year's first and next year's first and get Darrisaw. Or we could spend this year's first and this year's 3rd to get Cosmi.

Do you think Darrisaw's ability to be a "sure thing" is THAT much more than Cosmi's? Because if either of them turns out to be a bust, you're right back here next year.

In the 2nd scenario, you still have the ammo to trade up for a guy you'll like.

In the first, you can only sit and do nothing. You're done in the 2021 draft because you don't have a 1st round pick.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601305)

Ahh so I knock down OKchiefs strawman and force him to defend his stupid ****ing takes and he stops replying.

Go figure!