Roethisberger is better than Manning because he has 2 rings / Certain factions of CP

Peyton Manning is a great quarterback. Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time because he was great in clutch situations. Montana was 4-0 in Super Bowls with eleven touchdown passes and ZERO interceptions.

Peyton Manning will eventually own all of the lifetime quarterback records if you exclude Super Bowls. When you include Super Bowls, Manning isn't even close to Montana.

dont u guys understand? wins mean nothing. its all bout statistics and how awesome your throws look. dumbasses

Who's better, Brady or Manning?

Put Brady on the Colts and Manning on the Pats and I'd bet Peyton Manning would have more SB's than Tom Terrific right now.

This.

you know how you can make this objective analysis dont you? by how awesome his passes look. i mean they just want to make me blow my load on the screen when ever he completes a 15 yard crossing pattern with clark.

THATS how i know hes better than brady

Montana has long been my go to answer for GOAT, but his teams were stacked to a point that modern QBs almost never get. Once FA and cap brought parity into the league, it made it difficult for anyone to eclipse the success that Montana had. I still think Peyton needs another SB or two, but he still definitely has time in his career to seal GOAT. Hell, if Favre's in the discussion, Manning sure as hell is. You wanna talk about season ending INTs...

Montana will always be the GOAT.

The passing game when Montana played and the passing game now are completely different.

I dont even know how to respond to this.

Pats won their sb's more so because of their defense, than Tom Terrific being great. That and the most clutch kicker I've ever seen in Vinatieri.

Peyton's been on some teams that have had defenses that are borderline, 2002 Chiefs bad. That 2003 game at Arrowhead where no one punted the entire game is a good example of that. Manning played great, but had to have a few things go their way for them to come out as winners in that game. Priest's fumble, the horse shit offensive PI call on TonyG (one of the most horse shit calls I've ever seen in my life btw) etc.

They're both great QB's. But I'd much rather have Manning as my signal caller. He's just a better QB.

So basically Matt Cassel is horrible then. No wins....shitty stats.

ROFL

No, but he has proven to be more clutch than peyton. Doesn't he have more comebacks than peyton despite playing in less games?
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yeah, true.

but from the standpoint of 'who would you rather have' as your QB, I think a majority would want Peyton.

they're different QBs with different skills and different offensive philosphies so the argument could be made either way.

I do like talking about these sort of things because there are good arguments for each.

I'd rather have peyton. I like the guy honestly. He's one of the best ever, but he is no montana to me. He has to prove that he's clutch in order to be considered in the same sentence. Roethlisberger has shown that he is clutch so in a 2 minute drill of a superbowl, id rather have him. But in all other areas, I take peyton.
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i'm pretty much of the same thought.