No, you're not. You're saying build to the strength of only your current QB.

That QB could be replaced. Then we'd have a QB who doesn't struggle with the long ball, but still no WR with speed enough to stretch the field. And still no return man to field kicks.

Give the most important position on the offense the best and most versatile weapons available. That includes a WR with speed. One who could also return kicks would be a great asset at the moment. We have a big slow possession WR already in Bowe. Compliment that with other skills... like speeeeeed....

You act like praise isn't given, and that's flat-out bullshit.

Praise is given when something is done to earn it.

Succop has turned out to be a great pick.

Chambers has as well, though I think Pioli was not the only GM in the league willing to take a "chance" on him. Picking him up was a no-brainer.

Otherwise, show me what they've done to deserve praise that we've missed.

There's a difference between fact and fiction, Champ.

zilla,

I have praised Pioli for several things:

1) Firing Herm
2) Trading Gonzalez
3) Cutting Johnson
4) Trading Thigpen

It's absolute bullshit to claim that none of us ever give him credit for things that he does. I have several times, and the times that I was lukewarm or mocking of a move that he made that did work out (Chambers), I gladly ate my crow.

The most angering thing about this site is that there are people who view the Chiefs like a five year old who loves his dad and how a 25 year old loves his dad.

Both still care for the person/team, but one does so through an intentional lobotomizing and removing of all critical thinking.

You can still be a Chiefs fan and be highly critical of the moves you want them to make. I don't bitch about these moves to bitch, I bitch about these moves because I want the team to win.

When the Chiefs missed the playoffs in '96, I took off my Chiefs hat, doused it in lighter fluid, set it on fire and pissed on it.

When they got eliminated from the playoffs in '97, I took my magnetic NFL schedule and dry erase board and took a bat to the ****er.

When Tomlinson broke that run after the ****ed up blocked punt call on SNF in 2006 I broke a coffee table.

People mistake critical thinking for not being a fan because it's easier to assume that everything is perfect and that the people behind the curtain know what they are doing. You don't have to deal with the reality that Pioli is a charlatan, Haley is incompetent, and that this team is headed for another half decade of irrelevance. But that doesn't change the fact that if these moves continue to happen that the Chiefs will continue to suck in perpetuity.

On that list, most of those guys didn't have much positional value, and of those who have, only Harvin has played well enough to suggest that he's a "foundational" player.

Hell, I think you're being generous by giving him praise for doing 4 things any GM in the league would have done in his position.

And Jackson had positional value?

You're missing the point - if we were going to ignore positional value, why not get a ****ing playmaker?

I'm sorry, but your delusional if you think those players aren't "core" or "foundational" players.

Crabtree and Maclin both came from the spread and Crabtree just had ungodly numbers in it. Like 40tds in 2 years

I wanted Orakpo and feel he or Crabtree would have drastically upgraded our team. DRASTICALLY

I still cant fathom how much this board hated Orakpo, before I showed up here I thought he would be the consensus favorite of the board. I wish I would have spoken up about him more, but I was kinda intimidated because of the consensus hatred for him here and was still (and kinda am to some here) an outsider.

speed
production
strength
size
intensity

What was the "selling case" of why the hatred ran so deep for him? Had to be more than "because he was from Texas and he sucks"

Oh well...

I wanted nothing to do with Orapko because Texas players have not translated well to the NFL in recent years. Far too many busts.

The fact is that Orapko plays on a pretty good defense with a decent push up front. He may or may not continue at this pace but to date, he's been a very solid pass rusher.

That was it for the most part. The local gurus said Texas players don't live up to their hype and everyone got on board. I kind of went with'em on it.

PhilFree:arrow:

The burn from Derrick Johnson still stings.

There's a larger trend for sure, and we have a local example. There was also talk of him disappearing in big games, IIRC.

But with Charles emerging, most of CP will probably be pro Texas...LMAO.

Hey if LJ hadn't been cut Charles would still never be playing.

Thank you, Scott Pioli. Glad to see the evaluations have been spot on.

But, in fairness, he had only seen LJ in about 6-7 games or whatever the **** it was.

The proof is in the pudding.

Guys like DJ, Mike Williams, Limas Sweed, VY (until 7 games in this season), etc. haven't exactly set the league on fire.

Yeah it's definately Crabtree thats causing the 49ers to lose more when he's played. :rolleyes:


Comments like this make me want to barf......everywhere.