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DaneMcCloud 12-22-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6369475)
God you are so unbelievably dense.

Hey Crackhead, let us know the next time you sit down with some NFL execs, okay?

You REALLY don't have a ****ing clue.

Seriously.

Fish 12-22-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6369876)
Sure as shit, they dropped the lead-in's to those questions:




Nothing like censoring press conferences...

Wow... that reeks of a coach blaming WRs for his QB's ineptness...

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Originally Posted by We Todd
Coming off that game I believe there are some encouraging signs.

Just ****ing chew on a loaded shotgun already....

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6369793)
Yes, he's made some boneheaded in-game decisions, but to me, it comes back to talent evaluation.

It took LJ mouthing off for us to learn that Charles is capable of being the man.

It took injury to find our best 5 offensive linemen.

We're still starting Vrabel over Studebaker.

And then yesterday, I hear this beauty:

Cassel was speaking with a reporter about his past performances being sub-par, and Cassel told him that he was graded out as having ZERO ERRORS during the Buffalo game.

This is a game in which Cassel threw 4 INT's and had a 35.4 QB rating.

I have a hard time trusting the guys doing the grading after that.

I decided the guy needed to guy immediately after hearing that nonsense.

When asked whether or not Cassel had been intellectually honest about his play and could look in the mirror, Haley said "I don't worry about such things".

Yeah, that Todd Haley. He's QUITE the QB coach.

:shake:

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6369804)
Link??

It was spoken by Haley during his PC yesterday.

I have no idea if it's up on the site.

OnTheWarpath15 12-22-2009 10:51 AM

They didn't cut it out of the video:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/12...ference__1221/

DaneMcCloud 12-22-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6369836)
Pretty much EVERYTHING is new! So the players have to adjust accordingly.

More bullshit.

There are 45 new players. The overwhelming majority come from the SAME EXACT SYSTEM, whether it be from Miami, Arizona or New England.


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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6369836)
The Steelers are an example of sticking with their plan, and are rewarded for it.

Again, more bullshit.

The Pittsburgh Steelers ARE the Pittsburgh Steelers for one reason and one reason alone:

Ownership. PERIOD.

Chiefnj2 12-22-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6369913)
They didn't cut it out of the video:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/12...ference__1221/

Thanks.

Cassel supposedly said he had zero "mental" errors in the Buffalo game. That first pick looked like a huge mental error to me. The others may have been tipped and/or a Hail Mary, but that first one was definitely a mental error.

OnTheWarpath15 12-22-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6370011)
Thanks.

Cassel supposedly said he had zero "mental" errors in the Buffalo game. That first pick looked like a huge mental error to me. The others may have been tipped and/or a Hail Mary, but that first one was definitely a mental error.

Here's the other thing:

Did every pass, INT or not go where it was supposed to go? Did he make the right decision EVERY time?

As you've pointed out, the first INT was without question a dumb decision.

You can't tell me he made the right decision 40+ times in a game he was picked off 4 times.

BigChiefFan 12-22-2009 11:55 AM

Most knew this season was going to be trash. Welcome to reality. Haley's the coach and will continue to be. Time to move on. It's been 14 games, with the worst roster in the entire NFL and some act like he's been here for years ****ing things up. Newsflash-he hasn't.

This is just spillover of years of ineptness and it's coming to a boil.
Reality is, we are a horrible team and have been for some time. We've been on the downward spiral for a long time and people are fed-up and figured Haley as the scapegoat. It's a sad tune that needs to be changed, because it's not giving him a fair shake to establish his system, with his guys.
Give the guy a break, for God's sake.

Fish 12-22-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6370161)
Most knew this season was going to be trash. Welcome to reality. Haley's the coach and will continue to be. Time to move on. It's been 14 games, with the worst roster in the entire NFL and some act like he's been here for years ****ing things up. Newsflash-he hasn't.

This is just spillover of years of ineptness and it's coming to a boil.
Reality is, we are a horrible team and have been for some time. We've been on the downward spiral for a long time and people are fed-up and figured Haley as the scapegoat. It's a sad tune that needs to be changed, because it's not giving him a fair shake to establish his system, with his guys.
Give the guy a break, for God's sake.

How do you explain the fact that well over half the team is Pioli picked players and we're still the worst roster in the entire NFL. Worse than last year. The best playmakers on the team right now aren't even Pioli picked players, they're Herm picked players. It's as simple as that.

BigChiefFan 12-22-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6370175)
How do you explain the fact that well over half the team is Pioli picked players and we're still the worst roster in the entire NFL. Worse than last year. The best playmakers on the team right now aren't even Pioli picked players, they're Herm picked players. It's as simple as that.

You act as if we went out and signed all of these hand-picked players to huge contracts, as if they were some kind of huge acquisitions and staples of the team, when nothing could be further from the truth.

The team was HORRIBLE, EVIDENCED by a team total of 10 sacks on defense last year. The offense was just as inept, as we had to run a gimmick offense just to stay close in games and do we really need to talk about Herm's carousel of kickers on special teams? All three phases of the game we're attrocious.

They(current FO and coaching staff) KNEW what they had, wouldn't work, so they had to take a conservative approach to see if any low-cost free agents could actually upgrade the roster, making the monumental task of over-hauling this roster, slightly easier, in the hopes that a few could pan out-

I would say that move has actually paid off, in now knowing there's a few players, who deserve a shot back at making this team next year. Others CLEARLY DON'T and now we can easily walk away from those, that don't, with little to NO cost.

Chiefnj2 12-22-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6370031)
Here's the other thing:

Did every pass, INT or not go where it was supposed to go? Did he make the right decision EVERY time?

As you've pointed out, the first INT was without question a dumb decision.

You can't tell me he made the right decision 40+ times in a game he was picked off 4 times.

1 pick was a hail mary, and two were tipped balls. I guess he doesn't count those as mental errors.

Fish 12-22-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6370244)
You act as if we went out and signed all of these hand-picked players to huge contracts, as if they were some kind of huge acquisitions and staples of the team, when nothing could be further from the truth.

So we had the least talented team in the NFL and they knew it. And even though they turned over more than half the roster, they couldn't find a "Staple" player out of that that turned out better than the least talented team in the NFL?

That indicates very poor talent acquisition if you can't find a "Staple" player when turning over more than half the roster of the least talented team in the NFL. That's basically saying the team was the worst, yet after replacing half of the worst team, we still have the worst team in the NFL. Think about that.

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6370244)
The team was HORRIBLE, EVIDENCED by a team total of 10 sacks on defense last year. The offense was just as inept, as we had to run a gimmick offense just to stay close in games and do we really need to talk about Herm's carousel of kickers?

They(current FO and coaching staff) KNEW what they had, wouldn't work, so they had to take a conservative approach to see if any low-cost free agents could actually upgrade the roster, making the monumental task of over-hauling this roster, slightly easier, in the hopes that a few could pan out-

And you think the current FO and coaching staff went into the season knowing what they wanted to do wouldn't work? They "hoped" that a few out of more than half the roster would "pan out"? **** me, how low of expectations can they possibly have? That sounds like the approach of a completely inept franchise, not one that is supposedly headed in the right direction under new management.

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6370244)
I would say that move has actually paid off, in now knowing there's a few players, who deserve a shot back at making this team next year. Others CLEARLY DON'T and now we can easily walk away from those, that don't, with little to NO cost.

Baffling. Totally baffling. They wasted an entire season for the benefit of evaluating "a few players" that should come back. And you say it actually paid off. We were the worst team in the NFL last season, by your own words. And the only positive to come of this entire season is knowing "a few players" should be back.

Holy hell.

Chiefnj2 12-22-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6370325)

That indicates very poor talent acquisition if you can't find a "Staple" player when turning over more than half the roster of the least talented team in the NFL. That's basically saying the team was the worst, yet after replacing half of the worst team, we still have the worst team in the NFL. Think about that.


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Did you honestly believe that the WRs they brought in (Lelie, Long, etc.) were going to be some long term solution? There is a reason why those guys were on the market and some are still without a home. There's also a reason why so many of the players released are still without a job as well.

SDChiefs 12-22-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6370354)
Did you honestly believe that the WRs they brought in (Lelie, Long, etc.) were going to be some long term solution? There is a reason why those guys were on the market and some are still without a home. There's also a reason why so many of the players released are still without a job as well.

Its because they sucked, and everyother franchise knew they sucked. Except Scott Pioli. Masterful.:doh!:


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