The whole time people were bitching about the #2 WR here, it was always gonna be this way.

Hill and Kelce suck up targets as they should.

The tough thing about Hardman was there were incredibly gifted WR's still on the board.

Imagine if we had Terry McLaurin?

Hill, McLaurin, Kelce ...

I think Veach fixes this next draft/free agency.


Darnell Mooney went in the 5th last year and he is better than Mecole.

DK Metcalf, Kareem Hunt, Frank Clark helped in the Super Bowl run, 49ers weren’t going to lose Trent Williams.


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Yes. Hardman is a hustle double right now. He played a critical role in the Super Bowl run (big plays/explosion while Hill was out, return game, huge return against the Texans), critical enough you can make a case they fall short without him.

Most offenses would take a step down if they lost their #1 or #2 WR. Also, the last time one of them missed significant action (Hill in 2019) Hardman slid into that role and had good production.

This is a simple concept. People seem to overlook it. If Travis Kelce was a WR and Hardman was a TE, would people freak out about his production?

If the Chiefs had Terry McLaurin, Chiefs fans still wouldn't be happy with his production because he'd been getting 5-6 targets a game.

We have no idea how half of those players will turn out. I'm pretty optimistic about a few of them but who knows. Brown is a better run blocker and poorer at pass protection than Fisher, but he's young, he'll get better.

Will people ever stop bringing up DK Metcalf instead of Harman? Maybe one day we can dream.

Probably about the time when people start forgetting about Dan Marino instead of Todd Blackledge.


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I fear we would step down farther than most

Hardman thus far remains hit and miss, we know what DRob is, and who knows with Kemp and Pringle... they might be able to elevate their ceiling, but we haven't seen them do it yet

Definitely in agreement with those saying the WR and DE rooms are gonna look a LOT different next year

If the Chiefs has Mclaurin there would be question mark who our #2 WR is.

Mecole isn't even better than Chris Conley who we let go of a few years ago.

Would you take targets away from Hill or Kelce to give to him if he were here?

Thats the question we need to think about. In order to take touches away from those two, you need to be able to show it that way.

If Alex Smith was still here, you would be blaming him for Hardman's production. Now people are saying that Mahomes doesn't want to throw the ball to Hardman? There's not enough footballs for more than 2 targets? Smh

I think Mahomes would love to spread the ball around more. Defenses are able to focus so much on Hill and Kelce because we don't have anyone else. Throwing to Hill/Kelce would be easier for Mahomes if Hardman was a legit weapon. Mahomes didn't have a problem throwing it to a healthy Watkins. We haven't seen that same firepower with Hardman in there.

People need to stop making excuses for Hardman. If he can't make it work with a HOF Quarterback then he's in trouble.

It's completely unfair to compare Robinson to a first ballot HoFer, but did anyone else notice what Kelce did on the go-ahead touchdown?

As he's catching the ball he's keeping his shoulders square to secure the catch but he's setting his feet to start his turn upfield even as he's bringing the ball in. He knows where he is on the field and what he needs to do. He executed it so flawlessly that the DB got caught off-guard, delivered a bit of a glancing shot and Kelce could crash into the next guy to power into the end zone.

It looks like a pretty basic TD but if Kelce didn't do exactly what he did there, he's probably down at the 3. It was his footwork that made that possible. I'll try to find the clip.

Here's the touchdown - the 'quarterback view' is the best one to demonstrate it. Look at about the 36 second mark how he pivots his hips and sets his feet to turn upfield and deliver a blow before the ball gets there. It's brilliant stuff.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes. Kelce. The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> take the lead! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a><br><br>��: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CLEvsKC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CLEvsKC</a> on CBS<br>��: NFL app <a href="https://t.co/OreaPoNQHU">pic.twitter.com/OreaPoNQHU</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1437190795073765379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Now again, I'm not saying that Robinson needs to be this good at that sort of thing, but it demonstrates how important those little things can be (and how obscenely good Kelce is at it).

Sure but when Sammy was here, if he played all 16 games, he was a 90-100 target guy. I don't think hill and Kelce get so many targets just because they're the best, but also because they're literally the only guys Mahomes can count on. If he could he would throw them the ball just like he did when Sammy was healthy.

Is Hardman as good as a healthy Sammy Watkins?


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