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Direckshun 01-23-2023 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by boilertiger (Post 16759093)
Rewatched a few Bengals games from the offensive side of the ball (Burrow on the field).

Bills played by far the most soft zone coverage (we've seen this from them in the past). Just a miserable gameplan against Burrow with a banged up oline.

The Bengals WR's were open and Burrow was on time because the Bills REFUSED to slow them down at the line of scrimmage. Burrow was never bothered because everything was on time. Nothing was disrupted at all.

Watch the Chiefs game vs. Bengals and its the total opposite. Press man almost every drive. Not ideal but it definitely created some timing issues and will probably force Burrow to hold on to the ball a bit longer. Chiefs generated more pressure than the Bills and should be able to pressure Burrow at least a little bit this week. Bills defensive game plan was not good.
That Bills gameplan was criminal.

5 yard cushions + blitzes = ????

RaidersOftheCellar 01-23-2023 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16759007)
The Chiefs actually have the most batted passes in the NFL.

Clark/Karlaftis/Dunlap/Jones and others are built for it.

God, I am so hungry for this game.

On paper, I just like the Bengals too much, but I'm starting to talk myself into KC all of a sudden.
Posted this earlier, but there was a pretty drastic difference in the defensive effort between the two games last year. 5.4 yards per play at home vs 7.5 in Cincinnati. 2.7 points per drive vs 3.8. 359 yds vs 475. 6.2 yards per pass vs 9.4. Almost half their drives in KC ended with a punt or turnover and they only reached the endzone twice.

Arrowhead could be a big factor. The revenge factor shouldn't hurt either.

MahomesIsTheMVP 01-23-2023 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16758695)
They're some cocky mofos. Alot of assumptions they're going to dominate Sunday.
They aren’t going to dominate the Chiefs, they never have. Every game has been a FG difference and this one will be the same.

ptlyon 01-23-2023 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16759106)
That Bills gameplan was criminal.

5 yard cushions + blitzes = ????
Mil an O

dirk digler 01-23-2023 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by boilertiger (Post 16759093)
Rewatched a few Bengals games from the offensive side of the ball (Burrow on the field).

Bills played by far the most soft zone coverage (we've seen this from them in the past). Just a miserable gameplan against Burrow with a banged up oline.

The Bengals WR's were open and Burrow was on time because the Bills REFUSED to slow them down at the line of scrimmage. Burrow was never bothered because everything was on time. Nothing was disrupted at all.

Watch the Chiefs game vs. Bengals and its the total opposite. Press man almost every drive. Not ideal but it definitely created some timing issues and will probably force Burrow to hold on to the ball a bit longer. Chiefs generated more pressure than the Bills and should be able to pressure Burrow at least a little bit this week. Bills defensive game plan was not good.
They played that way I bet because of the conditions. Offense has a huge advantage in the snow\slick conditions.

MahomesIsTheMVP 01-23-2023 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by boilertiger (Post 16759093)
Rewatched a few Bengals games from the offensive side of the ball (Burrow on the field).

Bills played by far the most soft zone coverage (we've seen this from them in the past). Just a miserable gameplan against Burrow with a banged up oline.

The Bengals WR's were open and Burrow was on time because the Bills REFUSED to slow them down at the line of scrimmage. Burrow was never bothered because everything was on time. Nothing was disrupted at all.

Watch the Chiefs game vs. Bengals and its the total opposite. Press man almost every drive. Not ideal but it definitely created some timing issues and will probably force Burrow to hold on to the ball a bit longer. Chiefs generated more pressure than the Bills and should be able to pressure Burrow at least a little bit this week. Bills defensive game plan was not good.
I’ve got the 2022 AFCCG and this year’s game on my DVR but not the 2021 regular season game.

Have you noticed how they changed their schemes in the second half?

BryanBusby 01-23-2023 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16759091)
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Yeah, thats what Im saying. Instant pressure, physical with the WRs right off the line. No cushion, tight coverage. And Yes, hit the WRs every chance you get!

Disrupt the timing! Its a couple seconds, if you can get him to throw an errant pass or hold the ball a little longer, BOOM!

Of course that isnt as easy as it would seem.
You're saying he isn't unflappable though when he can be shaken.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2023 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16758988)
Re-watched our offensive possessions in Cincinnati.

1st drive - Moved the ball relatively easily until a batted pass near the goal line. Settled for FG.
2nd - Sack on 2nd down. Nobody open on 3rd. Couldn't connect on a bomb.
3rd - Had to convert a 4th and 4 but scored a TD easily after.
4th - Several chunk plays followed by a TD.
5th - Multiple chunk plays. Defense tightened up near the goal line. Mahomes TD dive on 4th down.
6th - Moved the ball well until the Kelce fumble.
7th - Moving the ball until Mahomes was tripped up trying to run for the first on 3rd and short. Andy stupidly tries the FG
instead of trusting Mahomes to pick up 3 yards.

Only one punt. Two sacks. KC was able to get chunk plays fairly consistently, especially on the ground. Solid success in the screen game. Balanced attack overall.

I think Mahomes and Andy really know how to attack this defense now. They were a rare Kelce fumble and a batted pass from probably adding another 10-14 points. And they'd have likely kept the last drive alive had Andy not been a huge pussy and settled for the FG.

Also, Mahomes didn't do a whole lot of scrambling in this game. Mostly stayed in the pocket. Hopefully that will bode well for the rematch.
That was my take, too. I was looking closely at the rewatch at how much was done outside structure, and it really wasn't much at all.

That gameplan they went to in the second half really had the offense humming along. If anything, I think the only tweak I see is to be more willing to run the ball in 3 and 4 yards to gain situations. If you're at 3rd and 3 in long FG range, handing it off to Pacheco is not a bad approach to take (and if you want to throw, subbing him in and seeing if the opponents go to a more run-focused look and adjusting to that works, too).

T-post Tom 01-23-2023 02:54 PM
So sick of hearing about last year's AFCCG. I won't shed a tear if the only remnants of the Bengals after Sunday is a stain on Arrowhead's turf. F Joe Burrow. F Zac Taylor. F Lou Anarumo. F Brian Callahan. F anything sporting tiger stripes on Sunday. :#

Imon Yourside 01-23-2023 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16758851)
Check out Mahomes’ performances in his return games from injury:

2019 Week 2 vs the Raiders (after suffering a high ankle sprain in Week 1 vs Jacksonville): 30-44, 443 yards passing, 4 TD’s 0 INT’s.

2019 Week 10 vs Tennessee (after suffering a knee injury in Week 7 vs Denver and missing the next two games): 36-50, 446 yards passing, 3 TD’s 0 INT’s.

2020 AFC Championship Game vs Buffalo (after suffering a hit to the head injury and turf toe in the Divisional Round vs Cleveland): 29-38, 325 yards passing, 3 TD’s 0 INT’s.

Not bad.
LMAO not bad he says

RunKC 01-23-2023 02:55 PM
I just watched the game again on the condensed 40(ish) minute rewatch and I gotta say fellas….I’m confident this offense is scoring 30+ on they ass.

As long as Andy uses the formula he did in Cincy earlier this year, we’re getting 30+ points. We had 7 offensive drives not counting the end of the first half drove to run out the clock. This was our drive chart:

FG-65 yard drive
Punt
TD-77 yard drive
TD-53 yard drive
Fumble-10.5 yards per play on 2 plays
Missed FG-38 yard drive

The only reason our first drive wasn’t a TD was a lucky batted pass in one’s the 10 and Kelce was wide open as the intended receiver.

Guys, we drove the ball at will on these assholes. Literally. Our own stupidity killed us with the fumble and missed FG. And that was with Orlando Brown getting his sphincter enlarged by Trey Hendrickson.

Oh and I would like to point out that neither Hardman or Toney played in this game.

Those 2 on the field together are going to cause massive problems

Imon Yourside 01-23-2023 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16759143)
So sick of hearing about last year's AFCCG. I won't shed a tear if the only remnants of the Bengals after Sunday is a stain on Arrowhead's turf. F Joe Burrow. F Zac Taylor. F Lou Anarumo. F Brian Callahan. F anything sporting tiger stripes on Sunday. :#
Solid take would watch over and over.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-23-2023 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16759081)
OK, bud. Given our recent matchups, I think it's more likely that we won't make Burrow uncomfortable at all.

I hope you're right though!
LMAO Not if he throws it in 2 to 2.5 seconds like he has been, but that limits there offense. Bills D is trash with Von out and all their secondary injuries.

FringeNC 01-23-2023 03:06 PM
As good as Cinci looked yesterday (and let's face it, they looked great), they looked terrible against Baltimore the week earlier. 234 yards of total offense. 4.3 yards per play. Just brutal. And Baltimore had about 350 yards of offense.

And I don't buy the division game nonsense. NYG got annihilated against Philly.

I'm not confident in a win, but it'd hardly be a big upset if we do.

MahomesIsTheMVP 01-23-2023 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16759143)
So sick of hearing about last year's AFCCG. I won't shed a tear if the only remnants of the Bengals after Sunday is a stain on Arrowhead's turf. F Joe Burrow. F Zac Taylor. F Lou Anarumo. F Brian Callahan. F anything sporting tiger stripes on Sunday. :#
Probably need to turn off your tv and radio then because you are going to hear about the 3 previous games a lot. I’m sure the NFL Network will reshow the games too.


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