Td throws aren't in A Smith's DNA.

Don't expect that to continue.

Geno also was his teams leading rusher with about 60 Yards

I'd take Alex Smith 1,000 times over Geno Smith. This thread is stupid imo.

The Geno butthurt in this thread is SO ****ing delicious.

"He was given the game"!
"Sanchez beat Tampa too"!

What a bunch of ****ing ****s.

Geno Smith INT 1
Alex Smith INT 0
Alex Smith WIN!

Geno Smith: Rookie taking his lumps
Alex Smith: will not get better than what he was for San Fran

Are you gonna pay Claynus royalties for shamelessly ripping off his act here?

So desperate for attention

Fair enough, but if Alex plays here in KC like he did last year in San Fran, that ain't too shabby.

He's much better than Cassel thus far and I'm in his corner because like it or not he's our QB. I will root for the guy but do not expect miracles. Hopefully Bray can fulfill the role of QBOTF.

LMAO It is so awesome. Truth be told I thought there was no way possible with the team he's on he could pull off what he did this week.

Alex Smith showed me basically exactly what I expected yesterday. He was fine. He didn't make any huge mistakes. He checked down a lot. He showed good short-area accuracy.

He was OK working from a mostly clean pocket and made some nice, short throws. His defense set him up with short fields multiple times, and the O took advantage.

It wasn't an "Oh wow" performance, but it's one that I suspect will be far more normal for Smith as a Chief than an actual "Oh wow" performance.

I didn't see any of the Jets game, but from what I heard yesterday from analysts, what I read, and what I can glean from highlights, it was a performance that highlighted some of his strengths and also some of his weaknesses.

He still has a ways to go in terms of development and being ready to be an NFL starter (see his rough start). But he also has a lot of physical ability and is an accurate passer, as we saw from his final passing numbers.

I'm sure the anti-Geno crowd was licking its chops after his early fumble and INT. The way he played the rest of the game/finished the rest of the game is something that he shouldn't be able to do, if all the criticisms of his character (he's a whiner/pouter/blames his teammates/gives up) were true.

Pretty much what I'm thinking. I'm completely willing to support Alex if he plays well consistently. But yeah, I'm really hoping we have something special with Bray.

I hope so to, but it would be nice for once to hedge our bets at the QB position and have Geno or EJ paired with Bray to compete for the position with Alex next year or in 2 years.

It also isn't enough to win in the playoffs without a legendary defense.

What's the point, really, of "Win now" if its expiration date is the end of the regular season?

I was on that bandwagon and Hope Geno does well so i can throw that back in some faces(Namely a Giants fan at work). I am however a Chiefs fan first and it wouldn't bother me a bit if Alex Smiff sniffed an MVP here. :D

We'll see. Hopefully it is.

There is no shame in rooting for both Alex Smith and Geno Smith.

Exactly, unless the Jets played the Chiefs.

Quite frankly, EJ Manuel did better than Geno, or Alex. Yes, he lost, but he played exceptionally well, for a rookie against the Patriots and barely lost. Geno barely won against the Bucs.

Maybe we should be upset we didn't draft EJ Manuel...

I would bet over 90% of the people that wanted Geno would have been as happy with Manuel on draft day and now.

Passer ratings
Alex Smiff 94.4
Geno Smiff 80.6
Winner Alex Smiff

LMAO, no they wouldn't have. Nobody and I mean nobody was pushing for Manuel at 1.1

I thought his performance was pretty much identical to Alex Smith's.

Granted, Manuel did that against New England while Alex Smith did it against Jacksonville, but still, the numbers are very similar.

I would have been fine with Manuel, but I think Geno Smith has more long-term upside. Manuel is huge and has the big arm, but his playing style doesn't always fit that.

Go back and look. I remember post after post about prefering Geno, but being happy with just taking a QB in the first instead of a RT. I know SNR stated that time after time.

Milkman put it well as usual. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=140

I know..I'm just being sarcastic. :evil:

Bray will be better than both of then

It is telling that none of you Alex Smith haters mention the long passes he threw. One dropped by Fasano and one caught by McCluster. You just dwell on the short stuff as if that is all he did. Cherry picking mofos.

What long pass to McCluster? I remember a 15-yard (or so) dig/drag route.

I missed the pass to Fasano... was still on the road until the free kick for the safety. Radio guys did not make a big deal about Fasano dropping it... and it sounded like Len thought it was not a great throw, so I didn't put much stock in that.

Fisher looked better than Geno yesterday.

Pretty sure McCluster had a nice grab in the seam. Wasn't a dig or a drag. Don't remember the concept, alignment, or coverage.

Yards per attempt?

I would of been fine with Manuel at 1.1. I thought the fact that he had gone through some tough times and still displayed some really good leadership qualities might make him a good fit in KC. I thought his athleticism would mesh nicely with Charles and Bowe as well.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...ghlight=manuel

FWIW, I also thought that the Chiefs would still draft Geno at 1.1 after we traded for ASmith.

While I'm called a "truefan," I really wanted a QB in the first round.....

Wasn't real impressive, what WAS impressive was 3 trips to the Redzone and 3 TD's scored.

I care about one stat and that is wins.

1-0.

This. It looked like the offense took their foot off the pedal after gaining a substantial lead. Saving it for Dallas or just no killer instinct, I guess everyone can have their own theory.

If it they are saving it, this whole season might be reminicent of the 49ers in 2011. Meaning that we'll only see enough of Alex to get wins...until the play-offs. I think this defense has demonstrated that they are good enough to try and imitate that team and season.

Um, no. Jets won because of their D and the ineptness of the Buccs offense. A snapped ball past the QB gave them a safety, and Geno single handedly gave the Buccs points on a fumble inside the 5 yard line. He also threw a horrible pick, and was lucky that the Buccs D decided to hit him (barely) going out of bounds, or its a Jets loss.

Absolutely

So no credit for going 35 yards in 25 seconds with no TO's? He still had 7 seconds left to get 10 yards and put them in FG position with out the penalty. Not bad for a rookie surrounded by a pyle of shit. I guess Russell Wislon shouldn't get any credit for that Seahawks win either. I'm be yearning for a QB that can pull a game like that out for a decade and people here piss it away LMAO

I also think Geno deserves come credit for drawing the penalty by putting pressure on the defense. Similar to a pass rusher drawing a holding penalty. When a 4.5 guy is hauling ass down the side line the defense is flying over to try to make sure he doesn't bust one like what happened with Matthews/Kaep.

Did you give credit to Tebow? I'll bet you didn't. This week's Geno hype is basically comparable to Tebow imo.

Some will argue that Geno was the man and some will argue he was incredibly lucky.

In the end, both will have lackluster careers and all of this typing will be a big waste of time. Actually, Geno will be lucky to ever make a playoff game like Tebow did.

This thread just needs to go away.

Tebow couldn't complete 50% of his passes. You're talking apples/oranges.

I'm pretty sure you need to go away for the 13th time and come back with a better user name Bobby.

In the end it doesn't matter.

People who have hated Geno from day one based on hype will continue to be haters and just can't wait to see him fail to say "I told you so."

People who wanted the Chiefs to draft and develop Geno in KC will still always wonder what it would be like to go with the best QB prospect in the draft (to some) and see how it panned out after Alex's tenure. I think the majority of Geno supporters on this forum are happy that Reid went after BRAY and didn't totally ignore the possibility of a rookie QB being developed on this team.

Despite what the haters say; Geno has the tools to get the job done. Will he make the excuse that his team is one of the worst in the league and use that as a crutch, or will he put them on his back and go make new superstars? He wanted the job and it is his. Time will tell.

It was a Tebow like scenario and that was my point. Some will argue that Geno was the man and some will argue he was incredibly lucky.

I really didn't like the guy coming out of WVU. I knew we wouldn't draft him and I was happy when we didn't. I don't feel the need to say "I told you so." I feel like I won when we didn't draft him and he dropped like a rock in the draft.

I think you are wrong about the last part though. There are several people here to truly believe we have to draft a QB to ever win a Superbowl. Bray will never be enough for them.

Ultimately, none of this is worth talking about. We have three quarterbacks the new regime likes, Geno is far from KC, and it realistically appears that we won't be drafting or signing a QB for a while. If we start winning consistently, the "draft a QB" dead horse beaters are going to look like idiots.

I guess it's time for me to move on from the Geno talk. It's a waste of time.

I don't understand why so many here have painted themselves so deeply into the Geno Smith corner. He might be ok after some experience, yes. But I thought the consensus here was that we wanted a QB like the Rodgers, Brees, Mannings, Brady? And it's pretty obvious to me that Geno will never be elite like those guys. So what's the ****ing point? What am I missing? Don't even come back at me with the "Geno COULD be as good as the elite QBs in this league" because that's weak sauce and borderline reeruned.

LMAO Geno leads his team to a miraculous 4th quarter win with less than a minute to play in his first and you won! LMAO If that's winning I want to be a loser.

You understand those guys all sucked or didn't play at the same point in development as Geno, right? But yet everyone knew they were all going to be HOF'er from day 1?

Didn't say that. Yes he gets credit for a nice scramble. He doesn't get credit for a stupid penalty on the other team. Also, if he didn't turn the ball over inside the five yard line on a terrible pocket presence play, and throw a horrible pick, he wouldn't have had to have that scramble because the Bucs were so inept.

we know exactly how you feel about geno bob.

Good post. Really and truly the poll results say it all.

So late heroics don't make up for early turnovers? Interesting theory. I'm sure all those legends with dozens of 4th quarter comebacks had nothing to do with being behind in the 4th quarter to begin with.

he was a rookie playing in his first game...

But but Rodgers, Brees, Mannings, Brady??? They all kicked ass their rookie years!

yes he was. But Alex smith had a more efficient game, no turnovers that kept the game close, and a higher QB rating for the one game. I'm not a Geno hater or Alex Smith lover. I think the chiefs did the best for them at the time. I'm responding to Claydusche because he proclaims victory on total yards passed, and looks like an idiot doing so.

Yeah I understand that. I love Geno's physical tools. I just don't think he can command an offense and pick apart a defense the way those guys can. If I'm wrong I'll be the first one in here to eat crow.

What does ESPN's QB rating say?

The stupidity in this thread knows no bounds.

Better than Brady! **** yeah!

It says Alex Smith played at a low end Pro Bowl level, and Geno Smith played at a just barely below average level (of course, that's just their assumption that 60+ = Pro Bowl worthy and 50 = average).

Nah, I'll just continue to watch fools squirm.

Oh......you mean that trait I hyped up? The one where the guy gets in to gear when the chips are down, and pulls the rabbit out of his ass?

That one?

Yeah, who the **** would want THAT?

If Geno doesn't get that 15 yard flag and the Jets lose, are we having this discussion?

If's and buts and candy and nuts, and kiss my ass, and suck a choc-o-late peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen.

Thank you.

:D

The facts really don't matter anymore when it comes to Geno.

That doesn't change the reality that Geno got seriously bailed out of a losing effort.

He may turn out to be decent or even good one day... but to give him exaggerated praise for this game is where the chocolate peeeeen sucking is occurring. Wipe off your chin, Sweet Pussy Hate. :dom:

So when Axl gets the inevitable ref bailout in a big way at least once this season, I can count on your strong moral fiber to see it for the gift it is, right?

Right?

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright...

It's a bit ironic, because Geno Smith had more interceptions than touchdowns, not many passing yards, played a pedestrian game, and had to be bailed out by this decade's Dwayne Rudd to squeak out a win against a Bucs team that is pretty bad.

And by the way, this week proved Alex Smith still sucks. He had a pair of TD passes, no interceptions, completed above 60%, rated above 90.0, but none of that counts because they were playing a team that is pretty bad.

Everyone just sees whatever they want to see.

If Geno threw 5 picks next week, big deal. He needs to mature.

If he sucks all year and gets benched for Sanchez, well, it's only his first season.

If he sucked for 3 years and got released by the Jets and was out of football, it was only getting drafted by a bad team that kept him out of the hall of fame.


etc

Hiding the nuanced truth in hyperbole; you sir are a true Planeteer.:clap:

truth!

Too many Jets fans here on CP for my liking. :shake:

Hiding what?

You know, all of you were slobbering on Terrell Pryor, he had a much better game against a better team, playing for a garbage team, and he's a schmuck who would have been cut from any other franchise.

This is the post of the year. There is nothing left to say in this thread.

Who the **** was slobbering over Pryor? Not this dude.
The disease of Alexcusim has spread to the entire NFL.

this is exactly the same shit from the same people when it was Sanchez...and where is he now?

iooooooh the chiefs didn't pick Geeeeno...oh boohoohoo

and the chocolate penis mantra? wtf?

just come out of the closet already.

I'll go with, "No one actually GIVES A **** what is or isn't to Mac-Niners liking, for $500, Alexsexual".

Yeah.

so now one is more than one? 256 yards aren't that many?


You might want to reevaluate that, especially when bob agrees with you.
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Backin' up the hottest chocolate in the NFL, bitches!

Hell when was the last year Alex Smith averaged 250 yards per game?

200?
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you sound like a blonde white chick

...sooo important.

And actually there are a lot of guys who wanted Sanchez badly, not many defending him around here are there?

I think most of that post was flat ass wrong.

Like I said, when bob agrees...
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Maybe not dude, but the guy said Geno threw for not many yards.

compared to what?
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