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Spott 01-05-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16711195)
The NFL probably wants to come up with a solution that it deems fair-ish. If the game can't be played for whatever scheduling-related reason, going by winning percentage might look fair to a lot of Chiefs fans but it's not going to look super fair to the average NFL fan who will just understand that the Bills were the #1 seed, a game wasn't played, and then they lost the seed.

I realize there's this disconnect where everyone here is certain that it should be a forfeit/no contest and then we just go by winning percentage, and I fully understand that thought process. But I don't think that sort of logic resides with the average NFL fan and I can understand where they're coming from.

The game wasn’t played because they decided not to finish it. It was their choice to leave the field, fly home, and make absolutely no arrangements to continue the game. The game or the 1 seed wasn’t taken from them. They decided they didn’t care about it enough to finish the game.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16711164)
I agree with you that there was no greater than a coin-flip's chance. But there was still absolutely a chance, right? Maybe 35-40% chance the Bills win?

Wouldn't that be exactly a situation where compromise would make sense? It wasn't a 0% chance, right? If the Chiefs are given the option, they should OBVIOUSLY take the bye week as that gives them an advantage on par with the probablistic advantage they had when the game was postponed.

Phrased another way...
Would you prefer:
1/ allowing the Bengals/Bills game to be resumed and then determing seedings based on that?
OR
2/ being given the 1 seed with a bye but have the AFCCG played in Buffalo?

Probabalistically speaking, I think they put us in a similar place. And that's why it's a relatively fair compromise option.

Are you wearing your new Bills jersey right now? The Bills should have played Wednesday night as he was stabilized, they didn't... I have always liked your takes, but your Bills ball licking on this is ridiculous. You probably won't even give a shit if the Chiefs get flagged 13 for 154 and lose against the Raiders...

smithandrew051 01-05-2023 10:47 AM

Quite honestly, the circumstances regarding the outcome of the game shouldn’t even play a role in the League’s decision.

The protocol should be the protocol and let the chips fall where they may.

If they would simply rule it a no-contest for the Texans vs Colts and determine draft slotting based on win percentage, then they should do the exact same thing here.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16711214)
One less chance for their tendency of going full reerun at the most inopportune time costing us a game? Yeah, the bye is infinitely more important.

No, option 1/ was allow the game to be played through to completion rather than take this 'choice' option. I.e., which one puts you in a better position?

Gary Cooper 01-05-2023 10:48 AM

They're reporting that Carl Cheffers would be the referee of the AFCCG if KC manages to advance that far.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-05-2023 10:48 AM

Nice to see the NFL is down for rewarding teams because they have players that suffer serious injuries (not even really an injury, just a fluke event) during games because . . . . . . . . . feelings and reasons.

Wouldn't want to upset a few people and their feels or get the Twitter mob in an uproar, so we'll spread our cheeks and bend over and ask Buffalo just exactly what it is they want that will make them happy and make them feel like they can go on playing their games.

We all need to make sure to be extra sensitive to the Buffalo Snowflakes (this is their new nickname, due to this event and the whining about the snow games earlier this year) and their extra sensitive feels.

And for the record, the Bengals are getting screwed just as bad as the Chiefs, if not worse, if this scenario plays out the way the 'league circles' are suggesting.

Obviously, we won't know anything for sure until Friday afternoon, likely.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:48 AM

playing in a dome seems like a huge advantage for us TBH LMAO

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16711223)
They're reporting that Carl Cheffers would be the referee of the AFCCG if KC manages to advance that far.

BAN THIS PRICK

notorious 01-05-2023 10:49 AM

People have THE stupidest ideas.

Really ****ing stupid.

Buffalo decided not to play. That's it. DNP or forfeit. Move on.

-King- 01-05-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16711215)
Still complete bullshit. Buffalo didn't want to play on Tuesday or Wednesday. They should be grateful it isn't a forfeit.

Did cinci?

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16711217)
Are you wearing your new Bills jersey right now? The Bills should have played Wednesday night as he was stabilized, they didn't... I have always liked your takes, but your Bills ball licking on this is ridiculous. You probably won't even give a shit if the Chiefs get flagged 13 for 154 and lose against the Raiders...

We have different definitions of fairness. That's all. I come out on the other side of lots of things with people here I think as a result of that.

arrwheader 01-05-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16711125)
Lol no one knows how that game plays out

They were losing the game and refused to play it over. They get to just dodge a potential loss because of an injury? They also got a mini bye week by only playing half a quarter. So the Chiefs who played all their games, won 14 of them get to lose HFA because of that?

RunKC 01-05-2023 10:50 AM

Imagine if you’re a Steelers fan and your rival plays the Championship game is played in our house.

Imagine if that was the Raiders or Broncos playing in our house? Yuck

Gary Cooper 01-05-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16711236)
Imagine if you’re a Steelers fan and your rival plays the Championship game is played in our house.

Imagine if that was the Raiders or Broncos playing in our house? Yuck

I try not to imagine such things.

DaFace 01-05-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16711110)
jesus christ here we go

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Schefter also said that the NFL is considering options such as allowing the No. 1 seed to pick home-field advantage OR a bye week. Another option (an AFC title game between two teams with a differing number of games) is a neutral site. No decision made yet. (2/2)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1611033863332954119?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This still seems unnecessarily contrived, but if it'll appease the masses, let's do it. And give me the bye week without question.

HC_Chief 01-05-2023 10:52 AM

****ing Cincy & Buffalo received a <i>second BYE</i> this week. They can either accept the BYE & no contest, or they can play a makeup game prior to the playoff and receive no BYE prior. Anything other than that is wildly unfair to the rest of the league.

tredadda 01-05-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16711076)
"Per the physicians caring for Damar Hamlin at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, Damar has shown remarkable improvement over the past 24 hours. While still critically ill, he has demonstrated that he appears to be neurologically intact. His lungs continue to heal and he is making steady progress," the team said. "We are grateful for the love and support we have received."

Honestly that is awesome news. It looks like he is going to be ok.

RINGLEADER 01-05-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16711121)
Schefter also said that the NFL is considering options such as allowing the No. 1 seed to pick home-field advantage OR a bye week.


That's actually kind of an interesting compromise

Are they going to make the 1 seed in the NFC play three games to have home field advantage?

This is a dumb idea.

Coochie liquor 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16711130)
Bye week and neutral site would be more fair. Buffalo was on their way to losing that game. They don’t deserve home field advantage.

While I’m completely with you on this thought, and the Chiefs being punished because the Bills decided to leave and the Bengals didn’t want to finish under the circumstances is bullshit. If we would have stopped the playoff game against the Texans at the same point as this game was stopped, I’m sure everybody would assume we lost the game. They should call it a tie, and keep the standings as the would fall.

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

It should be bye and a neutral site at worst.

In no way should the Chiefs have the 1 seed and be forced to play in Cincy or Buffalo.

digger 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

Here we go:


<iframe width="1583" height="578" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yFOvldn_IRw" title="Playoff Tiebreaker" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KurtCobain 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

Mahomes is just as good on the road as he is at home. And he's lost two AFCCG at home. And bye weeks can be just a detrimental as it is good. You lose momentum. 1 seeds lose all the time.

I DGAF about any of this. Let's just play the games. If we're the best team each week we'll win the SB.

All the crying is getting old.

DRM08 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16711243)
****ing Cincy & Buffalo received a <i>second BYE</i> this week. They can either accept the BYE & no contest, or they can play a makeup game prior to the playoff and receive no BYE prior. Anything other than that is wildly unfair to the rest of the league.

Yep, they chose to not play the game.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-05-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16711195)
The NFL probably wants to come up with a solution that it deems fair-ish. If the game can't be played for whatever scheduling-related reason, going by winning percentage might look fair to a lot of Chiefs fans but it's not going to look super fair to the average NFL fan who will just understand that the Bills were the #1 seed, a game wasn't playeyd, and then they lost the seed.

I realize there's this disconnect where everyone here is certain that it should be a forfeit/no contest and then we just go by winning percentage, and I fully understand that thought process. But I don't think that sort of logic resides with the average NFL fan and I can understand where they're coming from.

Two things:

1. The 'average NFL fan' is generally a moron. The die-hards know whats up.

2. They were NOT the 1 seed going into the game. The Chiefs were. The outcome of that game would determine whether they got it back or not. And Cincy has been probably the hottest team in the AFC over the last couple months. A LOT of people picked Cincy to win that game, and based on what we saw in that first 7 minutes of that game I'd say it's highly likely they would have. The Bills didn't lose anything (other than a player to a fluke incident).

arrwheader 01-05-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16711157)
...they had 1 full drive. I don't think you can say a team looks unstoppable because of 1 full drive. Especially when stats say Buffalos defense gets a lot better after 1st quarters. Iirc they're 26th in DVOA in 1st quarters and then top 10 in the other 3 quarters.

Then they should have played the game lat night or tonight.

They don't get gifted HFA or 1 seed because of feels.

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16711178)
I get your point but it’s kinda unfair. I seem to remember many a game when the Chiefs looked unstoppable in the first quarter…..and then….

Sure.

But what's 'fair' is to simply wipe the game off the books and let the chips fall where they may.

RINGLEADER 01-05-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16711243)
****ing Cincy & Buffalo received a <i>second BYE</i> this week. They can either accept the BYE & no contest, or they can play a makeup game prior to the playoff and receive no BYE prior. Anything other than that is wildly unfair to the rest of the league.

Put even more simply, if the Bills want the bye they need to play the game. If that can’t happen logistically then it should go to win percentage. Still requires all three teams to actually win football games this weekend to get the top seed.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16711250)
It should be bye and a neutral site at worst.

In no way should the Chiefs have the 1 seed and be forced to play in Cincy or Buffalo.

What the **** is this compromise you speak of?

You're getting soft, staylor.

HC_Chief 01-05-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 16711260)
Then they should have played the game lat night or tonight.

They don't get gifted HFA or 1 seed because of feels.

You tell 'em, Randy bo-Bandy! :clap:

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 10:58 AM

Hopefully the Ravens manage to beat the Bengals and really rat**** this shitfest. Ultimate Chaos

smithandrew051 01-05-2023 10:58 AM

Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

staylor26 01-05-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16711269)
What the **** is this compromise you speak of?

You're getting soft, staylor.

Lol I still don't necessarily agree, but it's not as nonsensical as the other option.

And for the record, I was winning both of my fantasy championships when the game ended, and split the money in both. I'm capable of compromise!

Sassy Squatch 01-05-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711279)
Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

Seems fair and just.

BWillie 01-05-2023 10:59 AM

Huh the Chiefs can pick either a bye OR HFA? When you earn the number one seed you get both. The Chiefs shouldn't have to give up anything. Play the ****ing game or it's a Bengals win. There should be no scenario its a tie imo. It was 7-3 with the ball. Start the game from there, or forfeit the game. That's it

arrwheader 01-05-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16711185)
Using this logic though, we wouldn't have won any games in the 2019 playoffs and we wouldn't have lost last year's AFCCG.

I agree that it was more likely Cinci would win, but that's just an assumption. A biased one at that.

Then play your game last night or Tonight and dissolve all qustions about it but they elected not too.

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711279)
Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

Wait - how is this not an advantage for the Chiefs? On any given play, Josh Williams is essentially a plant for the opposing team.

Spott 01-05-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711279)
Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

Or sign Daniel Sorenson for a week and then cut his ass.

Gary Cooper 01-05-2023 11:01 AM

What is unfair about using win percentages?

It also avoids all this nonsense about coin flips and picking HOME/BYE.

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16711281)
Seems fair and just.

Well if you think it's fair, I think we're all done here.

Afterall, you have a Hamlin jersey in your avatar.

The Franchise 01-05-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711279)
Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

I’d like to amend that to say that we’ll bring back Sorenson and then sit his worthless ass because Hamlin is a safety. Or better yet…activate Zayne Anderson to sit him instead.

smithandrew051 01-05-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711287)
Wait - how is this not an advantage for the Chiefs? On any given play, Josh Williams is essentially a plant for the opposing team.

How do we not have a “Is Josh Williams a Trojan Horse” thread yet?

Coochie liquor 01-05-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16711156)
We lost to Matt Ryan Shawn Smith though

More like it.

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711293)
How do we not have a “Is Josh Williams a Trojan Horse” thread yet?

Pest is tight with the mods...

Marcellus 01-05-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16711216)
The game wasn’t played because they decided not to finish it. It was their choice to leave the field, fly home, and make absolutely no arrangements to continue the game. The game or the 1 seed wasn’t taken from them. They decided they didn’t care about it enough to finish the game.

I don't get what people don't understand about this. Do I blame them? Not really but obviously it wasn't important to finish the game then so take the ****ing L and move on.

They had a chance to set precedent here, you have an injury and don't finish the game because of it you lose. I don't get why the NFL is so damn stupid but they are at least consistent in being stupid.

Bearcat 01-05-2023 11:07 AM

Crap like this is why the NFL looks so clueless and unorganized right now. There's also a ton of random speculation, but these unofficial "the NFL is considering" just makes them look dumb and is a bit frustrating thinking there really was no process in place and they really are flying by the seat of their pants.


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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16711110)
jesus christ here we go

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Schefter also said that the NFL is considering options such as allowing the No. 1 seed to pick home-field advantage OR a bye week. Another option (an AFC title game between two teams with a differing number of games) is a neutral site. No decision made yet. (2/2)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1611033863332954119?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Hoover 01-05-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16711242)
This still seems unnecessarily contrived, but if it'll appease the masses, let's do it. And give me the bye week without question.

Wait, so the team that has played more games and has more wins get ****ed?

arrwheader 01-05-2023 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16711270)
You tell 'em, Randy bo-Bandy! :clap:

I will! ROFL

-King- 01-05-2023 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711287)
Wait - how is this not an advantage for the Chiefs? On any given play, Josh Williams is essentially a plant for the opposing team.

LMAO LMAO

Marcellus 01-05-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16711307)
Crap like this is why the NFL looks so clueless and unorganized right now. There's also a ton of random speculation, but these unofficial "the NFL is considering" just makes them look dumb and is a bit frustrating thinking there really was no process in place and they really are flying by the seat of their pants.

Goodell makes about $40MM a year and he is absolutely scared shitless to make tough decisions unless a vacuum cleaner is involved.

Hoover 01-05-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16711307)
Crap like this is why the NFL looks so clueless and unorganized right now. There's also a ton of random speculation, but these unofficial "the NFL is considering" just makes them look dumb and is a bit frustrating thinking there really was no process in place and they really are flying by the seat of their pants.

When I hear "The NFL is considering"

I just figure that what comes next is an option being proposed by the Bills.

emaw1979 01-05-2023 11:10 AM

It’s so ****ing stupid. Players are so coddled now. The Chiefs played the next day Belcher murder suicided. Most people work the next day if a coworkers has a medical emergency.

The Bills were losing and likely going to lose. They chose not to finish the game. They chose to get on the plane and go home instead of resuming the next day. They should be forced to forfeit. Period.

-King- 01-05-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16711313)
Goodell makes about $40MM a year and he is absolutely scared shitless to make tough decisions unless a vacuum cleaner is involved.

I mean he works for the owners so they're undoubtedly involved in this decision.

Spott 01-05-2023 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16711307)
Crap like this is why the NFL looks so clueless and unorganized right now. There's also a ton of random speculation, but these unofficial "the NFL is considering" just makes them look dumb and is a bit frustrating thinking there really was no process in place and they really are flying by the seat of their pants.

They have a long list of rules and Tie-breaking procedures that are listed on the NFL.com website. They even have a rules committee that meets every year to discuss these rules and implement any changes they deem necessary for the upcoming season. The speculation that they are just going to randomly make stuff up as they go along is just nonsense(we all hope).

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16711307)
Crap like this is why the NFL looks so clueless and unorganized right now. There's also a ton of random speculation, but these unofficial "the NFL is considering" just makes them look dumb and is a bit frustrating thinking there really was no process in place and they really are flying by the seat of their pants.

It really does seem strange that they don't have a 'hey, what if someone dies' protocol.

I kinda wonder if they do but at 'first contact' they chickened out and stuffed it in a drawer so now they're just trying to make shit up as they go in the hopes they don't piss anyone off.

"Hey Rodger - what are we supposed to do in a situation like this?"

"Hmmm....internal memoranda say we call it a no contest if the affected team isn't willing to resume play. Aw shit, that'll cost them the 1-seed? Boy we'll take hell for that. JANICE!!! Get our PR rep on line 2, we're gonna have to figure some stuff out..."

I just cannot fathom that they didn't have ANY plan for this kind of eventuality. It feels to me like they're just too cowardly to implement it.

staylor26 01-05-2023 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16711314)
When I hear "The NFL is considering"

I just figure that what comes next is an option being proposed by the Bills.

Either by or for.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-05-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16711233)
We have different definitions of fairness. That's all. I come out on the other side of lots of things with people here I think as a result of that.

So, you think it's fair that they decided not to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday after Damar was stabilized, and put many other teams in limbo? They should have played, they should have offered to play and they didn't? You can go ahead and believe that your sense of fairness is virtuous, but it's obvious to most on this issue that you are being a Bills apologist (notice I was fair and said apologist instead of ball licker)...

digger 01-05-2023 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16711320)
They have a long list of rules and Tie-breaking procedures that are listed on the NFL.com website. They even have a rules committee that meets every year to discuss these rules and implement any changes they deem necessary for the upcoming season. The speculation that they are just going to randomly make stuff up as they go along is just nonsense(we all hope).


It's a free for all... I vote Thunder Dome!!!

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16711313)
Goodell makes about $40MM a year and he is absolutely scared shitless to make tough decisions unless a vacuum cleaner is involved.

Yup.

Just staggeringly poor leadership.

But be careful - Twisted will climb all up in your ass if you can't present these conversations on tape while Goodell is holding up his driver's license and SSN card to prove his identity...

Gravedigger 01-05-2023 11:14 AM

If you truly believe the NFL is rigged then the Bills are winning the Super Bowl this year hands down.

staylor26 01-05-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711327)
Yup.

Just staggeringly poor leadership.

But be careful - Twisted will climb all up in your ass if you can't present these conversations on tape while Goodell is holding up his driver's license and SSN card to prove his identity...

LMAO

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16711329)
If you truly believe the NFL is rigged then the Bills are winning the Super Bowl this year hands down.

#Billstrong!

TomBarndtsTwin 01-05-2023 11:16 AM

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Frazod 01-05-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16711279)
Here’s a fair compromise.

Chiefs get the bye. Chiefs get home field advantage.

Chiefs agree to drop 1 DB to even the odds, so Josh Williams is inactive and unavailable to hold on every key third down.

*hides behind DJ as the Franchise enters the room*

LIFE ISN'T ****ING FAIR.

And whether we like to admit it or not, bad shit happening to the competition is often a great way to get ahead. Whether it's one of two competing businesses getting hit by lightning and burning to the ground, allowing the surviving business to flourish, or a bunch of players deciding not to continue a game because of a horrific on field injury, or Forrest Gump becoming the king of the Alabama shrimping industry because all the other boats got wiped out in the hurricane, it's all the same. Somebody else's bad luck gives you an opportunity and you run with it.

That's life, kids. Unfair. Cruel. Indifferent to your ****ing feels. The end.

RunKC 01-05-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16711250)
It should be bye and a neutral site at worst.

In no way should the Chiefs have the 1 seed and be forced to play in Cincy or Buffalo.

It should be best winning % and normal rules at worst. If they do this it opens up possibilities for rule changes in the future.

I mean FFS the Bills have been sucked off by the league enough after the OT rule change bc of our win over them in the playoffs

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16711340)
That's life, kids. Unfair. Cruel. Indifferent to your ****ing feels. The end.

Why do you hate Damar Hamlin and his family?

Bearcat 01-05-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711322)
It really does seem strange that they don't have a 'hey, what if someone dies' protocol.

I kinda wonder if they do but at 'first contact' they chickened out and stuffed it in a drawer so now they're just trying to make shit up as they go in the hopes they don't piss anyone off.

"Hey Rodger - what are we supposed to do in a situation like this?"

"Hmmm....internal memoranda say we call it a no contest if the affected team isn't willing to resume play. Aw shit, that'll cost them the 1-seed? Boy we'll take hell for that. JANICE!!! Get our PR rep on line 2, we're gonna have to figure some stuff out..."

I just cannot fathom that they didn't have ANY plan for this kind of eventuality. It feels to me like they're just too cowardly to implement it.

Yeah, I'm sure they had a general plan (I'd sure ****ing hope so) and now it feels like they let too many cooks into the kitchen and to a larger extent than needed, now the teams or other pressures are helping call the shots.

DRM08 01-05-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16711329)
If you truly believe the NFL is rigged then the Bills are winning the Super Bowl this year hands down.

It would make sense after the Bucs & Rams won rings in their home stadium the last 2 seasons.

staylor26 01-05-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16711341)
It should be best winning % and normal rules at worst. If they do this it opens up possibilities for rule changes in the future.

I mean FFS the Bills have been sucked off by the league enough after the OT rule change bc of our win over them in the playoffs

Blame people like yourself for creating a narrative that the Bills have just been put through the wringer this season ;)

Frazod 01-05-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711344)
Why do you hate Damar Hamlin and his family?

Just a mean old white guy, apparently. :D

Rain Man 01-05-2023 11:24 AM

I hear that the league is considering giving every team a bye and homefield advantage.

Megatron96 01-05-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16711313)
Goodell makes about $40MM a year and he is absolutely scared shitless to make tough decisions unless a vacuum cleaner is involved.

Goodell is a very good, possibly great, salesman.

But as a CEO, a management professional, his history pretty clearly shows that he's barely adequate. And his non-actions in this event only back up that narrative.

I doubt he actually leads any discussions that involve anything outside sales and marketing. Probably a large part of why the NFL has always been so slow to act, why Goodell rarely (maybe never?) comes out and speaks immediately after any mishap; he's waiting for instructions.

FloridaMan88 01-05-2023 11:25 AM

What is the NFL waiting for to make the decision?

Hamlin seems to be out of immediate danger in terms of a life/death situation.

He's not going to wake up and walk out of the hospital any time soon, so they cannot wait for that.

milkshock 01-05-2023 11:25 AM

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Graystoke 01-05-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16711354)
I hear that the league is considering giving every team a bye and homefield advantage.

What about snacks?

tk13 01-05-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16711322)
It really does seem strange that they don't have a 'hey, what if someone dies' protocol.

I just cannot fathom that they didn't have ANY plan for this kind of eventuality. It feels to me like they're just too cowardly to implement it.

Maybe. This is the same league that had to settle a concussion lawsuit for a billion dollars though. If they had documentation preparing for player deaths it could be used as evidence against them that football is unsafe. Probably better to pretend it's not possible. Hard to say though.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16711340)
LIFE ISN'T ****ING FAIR.

And whether we like to admit it or not, bad shit happening to the competition is often a great way to get ahead. Whether it's one of two competing businesses getting hit by lightning and burning to the ground, allowing the surviving business to flourish, or a bunch of players deciding not to continue a game because of a horrific on field injury, or Forrest Gump becoming the king of the Alabama shrimping industry because all the other boats got wiped out in the hurricane, it's all the same. Somebody else's bad luck gives you an opportunity and you run with it.

That's life, kids. Unfair. Cruel. Indifferent to your ****ing feels. The end.

I LOVE YOU.

TwistedChief 01-05-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16711325)
So, you think it's fair that they decided not to resume the game on Tuesday or Wednesday after Damar was stabilized, and put many other teams in limbo? They should have played, they should have offered to play and they didn't? You can go ahead and believe that your sense of fairness is virtuous, but it's obvious to most on this issue that you are being a Bills apologist (notice I was fair and said apologist instead of ball licker)...

LOL. Virtuous? I don't care about virtue. I hate the Bills (and hate the Bengals more). I don't think the Bills deserve an ounce of advantage because of the situation as it unfolded.

But I also think you're entirely minimizing the situation by just assuming they should've been able to easily play the game on Tuesday or Wednesday. I think it's a different perspective on empathy for where they were at those points, but we've all gone back on that ad nauseum so no reason to rehash.

If the game could've been rescheduled for this weekend and they refused, absolutely on the same page as you.

wbbonneriii 01-05-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16711125)
Lol no one knows how that game plays out

Buffalo was getting hammered and didn’t want anything to do with the Bengals…the Bills did not earn the #1 seed but the Chiefs (with a win Saturday sure will)…

DJ's left nut 01-05-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16711357)
Goodell is a very good, possibly great, salesman.

But as a CEO, a management professional, his history pretty clearly shows that he's barely adequate. And his non-actions in this event only back up that narrative.

I doubt he actually leads any discussions that involve anything outside sales and marketing. Probably a large part of why the NFL has always been so slow to act, why Goodell rarely (maybe never?) comes out and speaks immediately after any mishap; he's waiting for instructions.

No he isn't.

He's the doofus that got handed the wheel right as DVRs and on-demand television made live sports the last bastion for effective television advertising.

So companies started HURLING money at professional sports. And since the NFL plays so few games, the scarcity of the product drives the demand up and makes them the natural landing spot for the biggest chunks of it.

80% of this board could've presided over the rise of the NFL. CoMo would've ****ed it up. Probably Billay. But even Clay could've managed to not trip over his own feet here.

This was a golden goose - Goodell hasn't done shit.

RunKC 01-05-2023 11:28 AM

Roger Goodell and the league office after they announce this new bullshit playoff option and it drives discussion and ratings:

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You know it’s gonna happen


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