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RealSNR 09-30-2018 06:49 PM

I get that the Royals are far from contenders, but who the hell do you want instead of Whit? He's here for a few more years, and he's a very valuable player.

Sure, I'd take a young ace starting pitcher over him, I guess. But you really think you're gonna get one of those in a trade?

More and more I think we should just keep Whit. Trade him as a rental if he's in the last year of control and the Royals still suck.

Sure-Oz 09-30-2018 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13776349)
I get that the Royals are far from contenders, but who the hell do you want instead of Whit? He's here for a few more years, and he's a very valuable player.

Sure, I'd take a young ace starting pitcher over him, I guess. But you really think you're gonna get one of those in a trade?

Hopefully there are offers similar to the Zobrist deal...we will see. Trade Market is different but he is really valuable and the Royals are going to compete in 2021 maybe? He's gonna be 30 soon...I def don't think they'll trade him for lotto tickets which they shouldn't

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-30-2018 06:52 PM

Fantastic year!

Titty Meat 09-30-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13776349)
I get that the Royals are far from contenders, but who the hell do you want instead of Whit? He's here for a few more years, and he's a very valuable player.

Sure, I'd take a young ace starting pitcher over him, I guess. But you really think you're gonna get one of those in a trade?

More and more I think we should just keep Whit. Trade him as a rental if he's in the last year of control and the Royals still suck.

Wont be as productive when they are competitive. Dump him for a new piece to help the rebuild.

ChiefsCountry 09-30-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 13776356)
Fantastic year!

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duncan_idaho 09-30-2018 07:16 PM

Yost has a proven track record with developing young players, and it’s the things that drive us nuts about him - his patience and loyalty - that make
Him effective in that role.

He did it with the Brewers and he did it with KC. He’s fine for 2019.

As for trading Merrifield, I think the strong finishes by Mondesi and O’Hearn and some of the young SP probably push that trade viability to the back burner, at least until midseason next year.

If Mondesi can be what he was over a full season, you can see a path to being pretty good by 2020/2021, in which case it makes some sense to keep Merrifield.

They’ll inject some youth and power arms into the pen, hope for health from key younger players (Soler and Mondesi chief among them), and see what happens in the first half.

Chiefspants 09-30-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13776265)
Agree to disagree. The Ned clubhouse thing sounds like a myth at this point. These guys were in it together from the get before they got to the big league club. Plus a Ned-proof pen. I have a soft spot for Ned, but it's time to turn the page.

So did the Nationals all stars during their youth movement. For three seasons they had more talanrt on paper than we EVER did.

It didn’t matter. Under their leadership players were fistfighting in the dugout, not talking to each other on the team planes, and constantly fighting with management. Clubhouse issues are often cited in Oakland’s failure to win it all too - so much so that even Billy moneyball Beane cited team chemistry as a major focus during his current rebuild.

Even if you think the locker room stuff is overblown, I’d then point to the data that says that ultimately, managers either factor in +3 to -3 wins per year at most.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-30-2018 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13776371)
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Maybe the Astros will get a re-match in 10 years!

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-30-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 12905481)
I have good baseball to watch for years. The KC Marlins are back in the dumpster w/ no farm to speak of.

QFT

tk13 09-30-2018 07:30 PM

I think it's gotten to the point nobody likes their manager. It doesn't matter how good you are. Read Andy McCullough's mentions on Twitter every night and people are just killing Dave Roberts. Same thing with Joe Maddon... you can find plenty of Brewers fans killing Craig Counsell. I'm not sure there's a fanbase that actually likes their manager. I guess maybe the Indians and Francona.

I'd rather have Ned 10 times out of 10 over Mike Matheny though.

SuperBowl4 09-30-2018 07:40 PM

:Royals: 58-104 :Royals:

Titty Meat 09-30-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13776434)
Yost has a proven track record with developing young players, and it’s the things that drive us nuts about him - his patience and loyalty - that make
Him effective in that role.

He did it with the Brewers and he did it with KC. He’s fine for 2019.

As for trading Merrifield, I think the strong finishes by Mondesi and O’Hearn and some of the young SP probably push that trade viability to the back burner, at least until midseason next year.

If Mondesi can be what he was over a full season, you can see a path to being pretty good by 2020/2021, in which case it makes some sense to keep Merrifield.

They’ll inject some youth and power arms into the pen, hope for health from key younger players (Soler and Mondesi chief among them), and see what happens in the first half.

I'm not sold on O'Hearn. It is nice to see Ned come back the team showed fire towards the end. I thought for sure he was done. I dont think next year will be his last either. Next year is going to be a fun year. They wont be great but certainly more competitive. That should be enough to lure Ned back again.

TomBarndtsTwin 09-30-2018 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 13776455)
Maybe the Astros will get a re-match in 10 years!

STILL butthurt about that game 4 loss from 3 years ago?

You’d think after winning the WS last year that you’d have gotten past that . . . .


Oh well. Enjoy your bitterness, i guess. :shrug:

KChiefs1 09-30-2018 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13775001)
Barring any comebacks, the NL is shaping up to be a lot of fun starting tomorrow.



2 games tomorrow?

SPchief 09-30-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13776610)
2 games tomorrow?

2 game 163's! It's gonna be great. AND it's not loser goes home. It's losser vs loser on tuesday


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