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KCTitus 03-01-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12107173)
I had forgotten until someone reminded me why last night's crushing of Shaka Smart's Longhorn squad was all the more tasty.

http://collegespun.com/big-12/texas-...rence-at-texas

Posted this a while back, but Shaka should be thanking his lucky stars for a KU team that went 2-21 from 3, while his club was about 50%. Its the only thing that got him his job today. Maybe one day, Shaka will have another chance to get to the final four after another team shots 9% from 3.

Mr. Plow 03-01-2016 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12107211)
I'm being way more basic than that. Simply points per game. He had 1 great game vs Tech. But for the season his playing time and numbers across the board are identical to Brannen - except for one: 3pt shooting (54% to 38%). Brannen is an elite NBA caliber shooter.


It's odd to me Self plays them the same amount when one is clearly better. But we are #1 so all is good


While Greene may be the better shooter, he brings little else to the floor. He's a spot up shooter. That's what he is. Nothing wrong with it.

KC_Connection 03-01-2016 01:53 PM

Greene is a 21 year old junior and can barely dribble a basketball without turning it over. Svi has the far higher upside.

sedated 03-01-2016 01:56 PM

I thought it was interesting that Self apparently trusts Svi enough to throw Selden/Svi/Greene out there at the same time, and have Svi be the main ball handler.

KC_Connection 03-01-2016 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 12107334)
Posted this a while back, but Shaka should be thanking his lucky stars for a KU team that went 2-21 from 3, while his club was about 50%. Its the only thing that got him his job today. Maybe one day, Shaka will have another chance to get to the final four after another team shots 9% from 3.

Shaka won't be able to live off that fluke win forever. With all the resources that Texas has, there's really no excuse for them not to be a top 3 team in the B12 conference every year. Let's see if he can pull off what Barnes could not.

sedated 03-01-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12107395)
Greene is a 21 year old junior and can barely dribble a basketball without turning it over. Svi has the far higher upside.

There's no stat for ball handling, so your point is invalid.

KC_Connection 03-01-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12107403)
There's no stat for ball handling, so your point is invalid.

If there isn't, I'm sure somebody is already coming up with one as we speak.

There is this, though:

Brannen Greene turnover rate, 24.5% (2nd worst on team above Jamari).
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk turnover rate, 15.4% (3rd best on team behind Perry and Frank).

The reason Svi gets PT is because he limits his mistakes.

Prison Bitch 03-01-2016 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12107375)
While Greene may be the better shooter, he brings little else to the floor. He's a spot up shooter. That's what he is. Nothing wrong with it.

Ok but you'll have to point me to what Svi does better. And do better than "ball handling", I don't have time for bullshitters.

Mr. Plow 03-01-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12107439)
Ok but you'll have to point me to what Svi does better. And do better than "ball handling", I don't have time for bullshitters.

He is a better ball handler. But.....if nothing else, he's a better defender.

A Salt Weapon 03-01-2016 02:35 PM

The other unnoticeable stat is how many defenders Texas had worried about that 3 threat from Svi, they were not giving him any space out there which was opening up inside lanes for other players.

Chief Pagan 03-01-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12107439)
Ok but you'll have to point me to what Svi does better. And do better than "ball handling", I don't have time for bullshitters.

Doesn't make a douchebag dunk at the end of games when everyone is standing around letting the clock expire?

sedated 03-01-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 12107569)
Doesn't make a douchebag dunk at the end of games when everyone is standing around letting the clock expire?

There is no stat for being a douche, your point is invalid.

Mr. Plow 03-01-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 12107615)
There is no stat for being a douche, your point is invalid.

LMAO

saphojunkie 03-01-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12107439)
Ok but you'll have to point me to what Svi does better. And do better than "ball handling", I don't have time for bullshitters.

It's not ballhandling. It's being able to run the offense. Svi ran the POINT GUARD position with Graham and Mason off the floor.

Svi can be trusted versus pressure as your primary ballhandler. He's 6'8. That's crazy. He makes great passes. He has shown Selden-like vision with flashy passes that nobody but him realizes are even possible. He has shown Graham-like stability when it comes to not trying to force flashy passes.

He has shown decisiveness with the ball, not waiting for the play to reveal itself, but playing through the offense until the opportunity is real. Most of all, he is the best defender over 6'2 on the team.

Last night, he was helping on the drive (as all of the wings were clearly told to do). The point guard drove, then kicked it to the strong corner, where Svi had helped off.

Now, this had happened three or four times to Selden, as well. The Texas player, instead of putting up the three, knew he had his man off balance, so he drove the baseline. Either Selden would have to over commit and foul or he would be late and there would be an open path to the basket.

Thankfully, our bigs were prepared and rotated to cut off the drive. Selden didn't over-commit and foul, but instead funneled his man to the waiting Landon "IMMA GET FIVE BLOCKS" Lucas. It was team defense, beautifully executed.

Except, when Svi helped off and had to over-commit to get back into position, a weird thing happened...

He didn't over-commit.

He landed perfectly in place, cutting off the baseline drive before it could even get started. In the immortal words of Professor Slughorn "It was wonderful magic... marvelous to behold." A 6'8" small forward had such quick feet, that he could go from free throw line to corner in a flash and still be in perfect defensive position.

It's little things like this that make me honestly question if a returning Selden won't lose his starting spot to Svi. Self's history emphatically denies it, though. But I can see a world where Svi is our best player next year, by far.

If Svi gives you even 80% of the shooting ability of Greene but also provides sound offensive play without the ball, handling the ball, on-ball defense and off-ball defense...

What is there to discuss?

saphojunkie 03-01-2016 04:24 PM

Alabama commit Terrance Ferguson just re-opened his recruitment.

Ferguson is a 6’6 SG. five star. He was supposed to be a heavy KU lean before committing to Alabama on his visit, and is now de-committing (never signed).

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Terrance Ferguson, five-star wing, decommits from Alabama
<hr size="1" noshade="noshade" width="100%"> By Jeff Borzello

Five-star wing Terrance Ferguson has decommitted from Alabama, his mother told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

Ferguson, the No. 13 prospect in the ESPN 100, pledged to the Crimson Tide in August but never signed a letter of intent.

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</td><td width="600">http://espn.go.com/photo/2016/0301/r...00x400_3-2.jpg</td></tr><tr><td width="600">Terrance Ferguson, the No. 13 prospect in the ESPN 100, has decommitted from Alabama.

</td></tr></tbody></table> When the early signing period passed in November without Ferguson signing, other schools began contacting Ferguson and people around him to try to get involved.

"I was overwhelmed with what effect it was going to have," Rachelle Holdman, Ferguson's mother, told ESPN.com in December. "I didn't really think it was a big deal, and so once that didn't happen, it was crazy. I had to literally shut my phone down, I had to take his phone for days. Nonstop. Schools calling, people, rumors about him decommitting from Alabama."


At the time, Holdman and Ferguson both maintained that he was still committed to Alabama -- saying that an illness in the family prevented them from getting together for a signing day celebration.


However, sources had long told ESPN that the relationship between the two sides soured when Ferguson told the Alabama staff that he wasn't going to sign during the early period.


On whether Alabama would remain under consideration, Holdman said, "I just want to make sure we're making the right decision."


Ferguson is a 6-foot-7 shooting guard from Advanced Prep International (Dallas, Texas). Before he committed to Alabama, Kansas was very much in the mix -- and the Jayhawks, among others, could get involved once again.


Ray Forsett, Ferguson's coach at Advanced Prep International, said, "He's been thinking about it for months. He was waiting and playing through it. He went on a visit [to Alabama] this past weekend. He wanted to get a look before he looked at anything else. He's looking at different options, going through the situation.


"He's going to take his time and wade through some things and go from there."
Given that #1 Josh Jackson is a major possibility, Thon Maker just scheduled a visit, or Ferguson could come in, I’d say the future looks bright.

We currently have one more scholarship to offer. I think it's going to come down to if Selden or Diallo comes back. If they both do, it will be a four star big man, I'd say.

If Selden leaves, Jackson or Ferguson commits.

If Diallo leaves, I think we land Maker, Bolden, or Allen.


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