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Saccopoo 04-09-2009 05:59 PM

And if the "IT" factor was the selling point, don't we just hold out for Tebow next season? I mean, that kid has the "IT" factor x about a billion.

Mecca 04-09-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5655854)
He's already had four years of developement in the NFL. He went 11-5 in the 16 games he played in. So Pioli and McDaniels wanted Cassel because he's not ready to be a starter? Sure.

PhilFree:arrow:

He was so well developed that before last season he was nearly released...

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655859)
And if the "IT" factor was the selling point, don't we just hold out for Tebow next season? I mean, that kid has the "IT" factor x about a billion.

This is why people think you're stupid.

philfree 04-09-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5655847)
Uh, no.

How did he detect this "it" then? Telepathy?


PhilFree:arrow:

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655864)
He was so well developed that before last season he was nearly released...

was he though? and if they were going to release him it was only because they DRAFTED a younger guy(remember they draft a qb about every year)

philfree 04-09-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655864)
He was so well developed that before last season he was nearly released...


But he wasn't and then he showed why they made the right decision in keeping him. Sanchez is such a long shot to make it in the NFL and if you don't realize that then you aren't the draft guru you think you are. Just ask one of the local historians they'll tell you.


PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:05 PM

No offense to opinion or anything but Matt Cassel is not physically better than Mark Sanchez if he was he wouldn't have gotten picked in the 7th round even without playing.

There are 3 things at play here, he's the guy the Chiefs traded for so obviously some people will put rationale aside to believe in him. He's safe in the minds because he's been in the NFL and was with the Patriots so he's not a college QB. Sanchez is the QB we'll likely have a shot at so he will be ripped to shreds repeatedly.

This fan base does not like the idea of drafting QB's it's been apparent for a long time.

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5655887)
But he wasn't and then he showed why they made the right decision in keeping him. Sanchez is such a long shot to make it in the NFL and if you don't realize that then you aren't the draft guru you think you are. Just ask one of the local historians they'll tell you.


PhilFree:arrow:

I'm sorry, a long shot, what do you know about him? How much have you watched him?

Do you understand how sound he is? He's very pro ready from many many points yet you call him "such a long shot" meanwhile I get to read how you think Curry can be a rushbacker.

This fan base, full of reeruns.

Saccopoo 04-09-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5655852)
I've already answered this question for you in another thread, and plenty of us have answered it on numerous, numerous occasions. But I'll give you a succinct answer that I agree with:

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
That aside, Sanchez has a better arm, elite intangibles, phenomenal footwork, he's four years younger, he operates very well under center (Cassel was far more effective from Shotgun), and he didn't have to have the best offense in the NFL in order to have slightly above average production.
Sanchez does not have a better arm. In fact, that's one of the slight criticisms about him by the draft guru's - that his arm strength isn't great. Good, and I think it's more than adequate, but it's not any better than Cassel's and looks to be a little less.

His footwork in the pocket is horrible. He has happy feet and dances like he's standing on a hot plate. I think that's correctible, but I see it as a potential problem/red flag.

And Sanchez had the best defense in all of college - by a considerable margin to fall back on, and I don't think that anyone is going to say that USC's offense in D1 wasn't at least moderately comparable to what Cassel had up in NE in the NFL.

Oh, and thanks to Hamas for helping you out a bit there. Nice assist H.

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655888)
No offense to opinion or anything but Matt Cassel is not physically better than Mark Sanchez if he was he wouldn't have gotten picked in the 7th round even without playing.

There are 3 things at play here, he's the guy the Chiefs traded for so obviously some people will put rationale aside to believe in him. He's safe in the minds because he's been in the NFL and was with the Patriots so he's not a college QB. Sanchez is the QB we'll likely have a shot at so he will be ripped to shreds repeatedly.

This fan base does not like the idea of drafting QB's it's been apparent for a long time.

mecca i was(and still am) on the sanchez bandwagon(i would be fine with him) BUT all you guys talk about draft value right? well if cassel and sanchez are so close(which i'm assuming of course but with what you use as analysis and differences on ther physical traits they are pretty equal) isnt it better value to trade a 2 for cassel than use the #3 overall for sanchez???

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:09 PM

Anyone who thinks Sanchez has bad feet is a total dumbass, really you should be banned for that statement.

DaneMcCloud 04-09-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655849)
Yes please, as a home game against an overrated Penn State with the best defense in college doesn't necessarily sell it.

You know what? You can just go **** yourself.

You're steaming pile of shit masquerading as a human being.

**** off.

Mecca 04-09-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5655899)
mecca i was(and still am) on the sanchez bandwagon(i would be fine with him) BUT all you guys talk about draft value right? well if cassel and sanchez are so close(which i'm assuming of course but with what you use as analysis and differences on ther physical traits they are pretty equal) isnt it better value to trade a 2 for cassel than use the #3 overall for sanchez???

I don't think they're all that similar to be honest...I think Sanchez physically is better and is 5 years younger...I'd put a 27 year old Sanchez league ahead of where Cassel is today.

I don't hate Matt Cassel but the trade would look great if you could bait the Broncos into trading for him....

SAUTO 04-09-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5655900)
Anyone who thinks Sanchez has bad feet is a total dumbass, really you should be banned for that statement.

i dont think that. he has good footwork, actually IMO MUCH BETTER than stafford, stafford is the guy who gets "happy feet"

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-09-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5655859)
And if the "IT" factor was the selling point, don't we just hold out for Tebow next season? I mean, that kid has the "IT" factor x about a billion.

Yeah, and Tyler Hansbrough should be the #1 overall pick.


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