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Titty Meat 04-24-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708252)
If I came to you a day and a half ago and offered you

Eric Berry, Jimmy Clausen, Terrance Cody, Damien Williams, and Everson Griffen through the first 4 rounds and sacrificing 5c and told you instead that we took

Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Jon Asamoah, and Tony Moeaki

Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't be incredibly disappointed to have the second instead of the first?

Honestly?

Who isn't dissapointed with it? I am but I certainly don't think this draft is as bad as last year.

lostcause 04-24-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708242)
He's a ****ing guy with a website who, while wrong about who he thought the Chiefs would take, is not a dumbass. His player projections are generally quite accurate, and he attends all of the major events and has access to tape.

If you don't believe him, check out Walter Football, or ESPN, who called the McCluster pick a head scratcher, or many of the people on this very website whose opinions you have personally said that you respect and value.

The other answer here is (and yes this requires 'the faith') that Pioli, Haley, Crennel and Weiss all got together and decided that the Tackle position was going to be ok. That the LB position was going to be ok. And that the NT position was going to be ok. And that the QB position was going to be ok and that we could afford to start finding ways to make our team dangerous.

I know that this is a brutal concept to accept. But you do have 3 fantastic coordinators and a quality GM pulling the strings. Perhaps they might possibly have a feel about our developing young talent.

KC kid 04-24-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708223)
Everyone's pro day numbers are inflated by .15 seconds.

McCluster's 40 time would be .15 better if he cut that hair

DaneMcCloud 04-24-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708242)
He's a ****ing guy with a website who, while wrong about who he thought the Chiefs would take, is not a dumbass. His player projections are generally quite accurate, and he attends all of the major events and has access to tape.

If you don't believe him, check out Walter Football, or ESPN, who called the McCluster pick a head scratcher, or many of the people on this very website whose opinions you have personally said that you respect and value.

I don't like Scott Wright.

With that said, Kiper had McCluster in his top ten when the Chiefs chose. SI has him as a good pick.

The bottom line is that they could all be wrong and he could bust. Or, he could be top 15 value.

Personally, I don't have a problem "reaching" for someone they believe is a playmaker. I'd rather bust on that than a Washington, Magee, Jackson, Brown, etc.

Yes, my standards have become that low.

BryanBusby 04-24-2010 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708252)
If I came to you a day and a half ago and offered you

Eric Berry, Jimmy Clausen, Terrance Cody, Damien Williams, and Everson Griffen through the first 4 rounds and sacrificing 5c and told you instead that we took

Eric Berry, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, Jon Asamoah, and Tony Moeaki

Are you honestly telling me that you wouldn't be incredibly disappointed to have the second instead of the first?

Honestly?

Here it is, folks.

"THIS DRAFT SUCKS BECAUSE PIOLI DID NOT TAKE EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED Q_Q"

chiefzilla1501 04-24-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708223)
Everyone's pro day numbers are inflated by .15 seconds.

Actually, his 4.44 40 in the pro day are lower than Sproles'. And his 4.58 time in the combine could be blamed on poor combine coaching. I believe he stumbled out of the gate on one of those and ran a slightly crooked path on another. Again, you can't watch him outrun secondaries in the college level and say the guy is 4.58 slow. There's no way. You can't even outrun a LB with that speed, let alone the entire secondary.

Secondly, 40 time isn't everything. He dominated the short shuttle and was phenomenal at making cuts because he's short and stays low to the ground. We saw with LJ how speed doesn't translate into changing direction or making sudden cuts, two things McCluster does outstandingly well.

OleMissCub 04-24-2010 01:24 AM

The wifey with RunDMC

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...17/dexlaac.jpg

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6708255)
Who isn't dissapointed with it? I am but I certainly don't think this draft is as bad as last year.

Eric Berry alone made this draft better than last year's. Asamoah was another great pick. Thats two studs out of this draft already.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-24-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 6708260)
Here it is, folks.

"THIS DRAFT SUCKS BECAUSE PIOLI DID NOT TAKE EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED Q_Q"

There are literally 5 guys you could interchange at every other pick than Berry, and it still would have been light years better than this.

Mecca 04-24-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6708255)
Who isn't dissapointed with it? I am but I certainly don't think this draft is as bad as last year.

Well that's saying a whole lot, I'd prefer to have higher standards than "well you didn't completely abort yourself while shit dribbled down your leg"

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OleMissCUb (Post 6708263)

Where is Hootie when you need him?

Titty Meat 04-24-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6708265)
Eric Berry alone made this draft better than last year's. Asamoah was another great pick. Thats two studs out of this draft already.

Plus McCluster will be a good pick. With him and Charles this franchise has never seen that much speed on the field.

lostcause 04-24-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6708243)
Welker's best season in Miami was 67 catches, I doubt he would put up 80 or 90.

Come on now. He went:

2004: 0
2005: 29
2006: 67

Traded.

This wasn't a guy plateauing in his 3rd year. To rip something off of his wiki page:

Only one player in NFL history, Gale Sayers, had more all-purpose yards in his first three NFL seasons than Welker did with the Dolphins; Welker holds the Dolphins' all-time records for total kickoff returns, kickoff return yardage, and total punt returns.

The Pats picked him up before he hit the height of his career.

|Zach| 04-24-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6708266)
There are literally 5 guys you could interchange at every other pick than Berry, and it still would have been light years better than this.

http://learn.uci.edu/media/OC08/1100..._UrsaMajor.jpg

KC kid 04-24-2010 01:27 AM

I watched a lot of SEC football this year. McCluster was the fastest guy on the field. Maybe his speed translates to pads better. Football fast is obviously different than track fast


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