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Bowser 02-19-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8383016)
Dorsey and Jackson are grossly overpaid.

Not really. They were grossly over drafted. And in Dorsey's case, you can argue that he's been grossly mis-utilized.

jd1020 02-19-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8383411)
Not really. They were grossly over drafted. And in Dorsey's case, you can argue that he's been grossly mis-utilized.

Dorsey wasn't over drafted, imo. He was drafted when the Chiefs were a 4-3. Not his fault it only lasted for a year.

Bowser 02-19-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8383415)
Dorsey wasn't over drafted, imo. He was drafted when the Chiefs were a 4-3. Not his fault it only lasted for a year.

Yep.

It's been debated over and over, but I for one wish we put him at the nose and used him like Dallas uses Ratliff in the 3-4. Apparently we run a different 3-4 scheme than they do.

Dorsey has done well, just not the world beater he was thought to be coming out of LSU. Not all his fault.

jd1020 02-19-2012 01:35 PM

I still think he should be traded if we can find someone willing for a 2nd. He's got 1 more year on his contract and I can't see how he's brought back as a 3-4 DE.

He's good at stuffing the run but hes more than a liability on the field against the pass. He doesn't demand double teams and he's virtually non existent. Ship him to a 4-3 team to play inside.

BossChief 02-19-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8383410)
13M = 20M now?

That's only base salary.

His signing bonus spreads through the life of the contract evenly.

Try to keep up, JFC.

jd1020 02-19-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8383458)
That's only base salary.

His signing bonus spreads through the life of the contract evenly.

Try to keep up, JFC.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...s/matt-cassel/

Try to keep up.

He didn't get a signing bonus.

BigRock 02-19-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 8383419)
It's been debated over and over, but I for one wish we put him at the nose and used him like Dallas uses Ratliff in the 3-4. Apparently we run a different 3-4 scheme than they do.

Guys like Ratliff are used to penetrate into the backfield.

If everyone Glenn Dorsey loves were taken hostage and all he had to do to save them was beat his block and get a hand on the QB, they would all be dead by sundown.

chiefzilla1501 02-19-2012 01:54 PM

The good news is, I feel pretty confident that the Chiefs will spend a lot this offseason.

I'm not a big Clark Hunt fan. But I also believe he knows and cares a lot about money. And he and everybody knows that he's not going to sell tickets or luxury boxes unless he makes a serious statement in free agency.

I've said before... the way Romeo and the front office have started to bring up Cassel, defending "the Tree"... I think they're becoming well aware of their reputation. I hope that's what that means.

BossChief 02-19-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8383459)
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...s/matt-cassel/

Try to keep up.

He didn't get a signing bonus.

Go read post 425, then take a trip to the store and buy a couple gallons of peak antifreeze and do shots till you go to sleep.

jd1020 02-19-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8383467)
Go read post 425, then take a trip to the store and buy a couple gallons of peak antifreeze and do shots till you go to sleep.

You mean this one?

P Player Base salary Cap (inc. bonuses)
...
QB Matt Cassel $5,250,000 $7,575,000

Matt Cassel got a ROSTER bonus and an OPTION bonus.

You idiot.

BossChief 02-19-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8383471)
You mean this one?

P Player Base salary Cap (inc. bonuses)
...
QB Matt Cassel $5,250,000 $7,575,000

Matt Cassel got a ROSTER bonus and an OPTION bonus.

You idiot.

He counts against the cap for 7.575 million this year and next year he counts for 10 million against the cap.

Those 2 years his salaries count against the cap for 17.575 million dollars.

That's "close to 20 million" which is where this started by you saying 13=20?

The fact that you seem fine with that tells everyone all they need to know.

This place really needs

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whoman69 02-19-2012 04:03 PM

Its all a matter of whose info you trust with different numbers out there.

BossChief 02-19-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8383774)
Its all a matter of whose info you trust with different numbers out there.

Not really. It's a matter of how much he will get paid as opposed to how much he will count against the teams salary cap.

Those are two totally different things.

O.city 02-19-2012 06:48 PM

All this talk about Carr Bowe, Soliai etc.


If we just signed those three to market value, what would the likely hit be?

mcaj22 02-19-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8384176)
All this talk about Carr Bowe, Soliai etc.


If we just signed those three to market value, what would the likely hit be?



we'd still have more space than this FO would know what to do with

aka

we wont be signing all 3.

I still think the Chiefs will be way under the cap this season as well. And all this no spending is to reflect next season when you have to be really close to the cap. They will just splash then.


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