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Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479911)
Dunta's numbers are inflated by the combination of the success of the Offense, as well as the Defense.

Can you explain why he was 102nd out of 118s CB in coverage ranking?

That has nothing to do with his offense, and everything to do with him getting beat over and over and over and over...

He's our new FS! Enjoy!

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479938)
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Dunta Robinson will be 31 next month. That's ancient, even if your name is Deion Sanders. If Robinson doesn't move to safety and he's expected to start at CB, you're looking at a Stanford Routt situation all over again.

Kendrick Lewis is a former 5th rounder that's slow and can't stay healthy. There is absolutely no way he's moving to CB, unless he's moving on to the Arena League.

Can't stay healthy? He wasn't the starter in 2010, but took over for McGraw and started every game.

Started every game in 2011.

Started half the games in 2012 due to injury.

Yeah, he sounds real injury prone. Tell me more about how Kendrick Lewis is so PRONE TO INJURY, that he's only had one injury take him away from significant time.

Do you know what the word Prone means? Do I need to buy you a dictionary?

PS, I'm not sure if you knew this or not ,but DB's aren't generally the fastest athletes, and age isn't a huge issue for most of them.

Charles Woodson, Champ Bailey, Ed Reed, John Lynch, Rod Woodson, I could go on to name you same middle 30's DB's who have played a pro bowl level.

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9479945)
LMAO

Ed Reed and Kendrick Lewis in the same breath?

ROFL

Yeah, they are both 1 of 32 starting Free Safeties in this league, and he is one of the most talked about "poor tacklers" in this league, I figured I'd draw the comparison to Reed to prove my point since people were whining about Lewis's tackling.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 9479947)
Did you really compare Lewis to Reed? Put down the pipe seriously.
Posted via Mobile Device

See the above response since your brain doesn't seem to function properly.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479951)
Can you explain why he was 102nd out of 118s CB in coverage ranking?

That has nothing to do with his offense, and everything to do with him getting beat over and over and over and over...

He's our new FS! Enjoy!

First, show me in what statistic you are referring to, as there is no "definite" list of ranked DB's anywhere.

Second, do I really have to draw you a ****ing picture on why?

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479940)

"Lewis is slow, and he's a poor tackler".

Kendrick Lewis missed 10 tackles last year in only 565 snaps.

He had the worst tackling efficiency rating IN THE ENTIRE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

A guy like that should not be starting on any defense, anywhere.

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479958)
First, show me in what statistic you are referring to, as there is no "definite" list of ranked DB's anywhere.

Here's a definite list for you. Dunta Robinson is horrible.

http://i.imgur.com/f1HDuYA.jpg

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479960)
Kendrick Lewis missed 10 tackles last year in only 565 snaps.

He had the worst tackling efficiency rating IN THE ENTIRE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

A guy like that should not be starting on any defense, anywhere.

He doesn't play free safety to tackle.

He plays free safety to prevent opposing QB's from throwing over the top of Flowers and such.

Or do you not know how our defense works?

mcaj22 03-09-2013 01:28 PM

a little food for thought

Dunta's skillset and age is about the same time that Dorsey and the gang converted Charles Woodson from CB to that roaming Safety/CB hybrid into his career and they got 5 good years out of that type of scheming

So there is hope. It just depends on the type of person Dunta is at this point in his career. Is he still the guy that's writing nonsense on his sneakers in games on Sunday? I doubt it, he got his money, now he's just looking for a job.

the funniest part here is we sniped someone from the BRONCOS. And that's in part to what a 2-14 team? How about having Andy Reid. Andy Reid stole Dunta from the Donks and somehow convinced Dunta that here is better than a team with Peyton Manning and a short Super Bowl window. Imagine that. That right there in itself is something a Scooter Pioli team could never be able to do, pluck FAs from visiting good teams and convince them here.

Imagine a year earlier Andy Reid instead of Scooter Pioli and Peyton Manning definitely would have made a visit here.

mcaj22 03-09-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479963)
Here's a definite list for you. Dunta Robinson is horrible.

http://i.imgur.com/f1HDuYA.jpg

they should sign Sheldon Brown as a stop gap how the hell is that guy still good

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479963)
Here's a definite list for you. Dunta Robinson is horrible.

http://i.imgur.com/f1HDuYA.jpg

I don't want a graph, I want the raw numbers that affect his Coverage rating, so that I can show you, easily, how much you just overused a rating scale that is easily skewed due to a number of factors concerning Atlanta in 2012.

I'm going to enjoy this, because your quick reliance on PFF/FO charts has shown you to be a bit sheepish, I love sheeps.

next you'll bring up madden ratings.

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479964)
He doesn't play free safety to tackle.

He plays free safety to prevent opposing QB's from throwing over the top of Flowers and such.

Or do you not know how our defense works?

He's the worst tackler in the NFL.

He has no place as a starter on any defense.

mcaj22 03-09-2013 01:30 PM

i told you guys Javier Arenas is a younger, better Dunta Robinson. They are the same exact player lol

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9479966)
a little food for thought

Dunta's skillset and age is about the same time that Dorsey and the gang converted Charles Woodson from CB to that roaming Safety/CB hybrid into his career and they got 5 good years out of that type of scheming

So there is hope. It just depends on the type of person Dunta is at this point in his career. Is he still the guy that's writing nonsense on his sneakers in games on Sunday? I doubt it, he got his money, now he's just looking for a job.

the funniest part here is we sniped someone from the BRONCOS. And that's in part to what a 2-14 team? How about having Andy Reid. Andy Reid stole Dunta from the Donks and somehow convinced Dunta that here is better than a team with Peyton Manning and a short Super Bowl window. Imagine that. That right there in itself is something a Scooter ***** team could never be able to do, pluck FAs from visiting good teams and convince them here.

Imagine a year earlier Andy Reid instead of Scooter ***** and Peyton Manning definitely would have made a visit here.

Did you just compare Dunta Robinson to Charles Woodson?




/Sarcastic Irony

O.city 03-09-2013 01:31 PM

Not much drop between Carr and arenas?

Hammock Parties 03-09-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 9479971)
I don't want a graph, I want the raw numbers that affect his Coverage rating

Sure thing there, champ.

He was thrown at 97 times and allowed 64 completions for 835 yards. Quarterbacks had a 102.4 QB rating throwing at him.

Exoter175 03-09-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9479972)
He's the worst tackler in the NFL.

He has no place as a starter on any defense.

According to whom? I'd love to see Tank Tyler out there playing Free Safety and trying to run down and Tackle Vincent Jackson.

See that? That is what we call a variable, and in the school of math and logic, I'm going to be your professor and how to view variables and statistics.

Go on, feed me something else.

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9479973)
i told you guys Javier Arenas is a younger, better Dunta Robinson. They are the same exact player lol

Except Javier doesn't hit people.


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