So on 810 Sports "BETWEEN the Lines." He said what exactly about Baldwin or is that you just adding your editorial envisages?

You've proven my point. In 2004, Trent put up 4500 yards, 27 TD's, and 17 INT's. Clearly, the OL made him a much better QB.

It's what we are going to need this year

during the 13-3 vermeil year we had

good offensive coaching/scheme
Great Oline play
Good Running backs

These things allowed Green to be comfortable and maximize his abilities.

Have to have the same this year for Alex Smith

It's what you need with a game manager type QB

So wait, if those numbers make Trent green an average QB, what's Alex Smith? Hes NEVER hit those numbers.
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100%

it's a total lol situation

they could have said Biscuit McBiscuitserson as our pick and those guys would have reacted the exact same way

being the rational adult that I am

I said Alex Smith lies somewhere between Trent Dilfer and Trent Green. Dilfer being his floor, Green being his ceiling.

the kicking and screaming over this is ridiculous now...CLEARLY, there were no QB's to take in this year's draft that would have been an immediate improvement over Matt Cassel. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have a single QB on their draft board...

so it's who cares now?

Reid is paid to ****ing win. Dorsey is paid to ****ing win. They gave a few picks for the best available QB (key word: available).

I realize CP doesn't understand the draft, at all...(not one bit)...

so again (and I have never received a rebuttal to this point)...

please go over the past 10 years of drafts and research picks 30-45 and then report back on how often you find a pro bowl caliber player with those picks

please use percentages

because people are acting like these two 2nds for Smith was like trading 2 all-pros for the damn guy when in reality AT THE VERY WORST we traded Brandon Flowers and say Dexter McCluster for Alex Smith.

and I'm pretty sure if Alex Smith is a failure this year...Dorsey and Reid will try and find another QB. I'm pretty sure Andy ****ing Reid addresses the QB position.

Question: when did anyone give up 2 2nds for a QB and move on from him after one year?

When?

Even if you believe that drafting a "great" player in the second is a statistical long shot, the bigger problem is that teams still (and rightfully so) highly value the picks.

Thus, paying two second-round picks for Smith shows, from my perspective, a commitment. Even if he plays at a mediocre level, I don't see the Chiefs essentially flushing this investment.

Rather, they'll throw more resources at the situation, thus further exasperating the problem.

Once again you and the point have missed each other.

Our OL isn't going to make Alex better. He's already played behind a top OL, and we saw the mediocrity.

He said Baldwin has looked really good through the OTAs but said he needs to get out of his breaks a lot quicker and said he could line up in the slot on some formations.

The fact that we have a HC and GM that get along is so refreshing. Pioli turned the Chiefs into a reality show. I'm happy to have Dorsey and Reid here.

What's the point then? Trent Green had better numbers without a great line than Smith had with one of the best currently. What does that make Smith?
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So same old shit- trouble with press coverage and still needs to run crisper routes. Somebody get his ass to Chris Carter's boot camp that starts like 2 weeks before training camp this summer.